2070 super or 2080

[Princess Luna]

9 hours ago, DSD27 said:

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Might wanna be careful with these so called benchmark videos with no host, no real footage, just some generic gamplay and charts.

 

A whole lot of these are just fabricated and not real benchmarks, there's no way to validate it.

[DSD27]

8 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

https://www.techspot.com/review/1902-geforce-rtx-2070-super-vs-radeon-5700-xt/

So? The 2060 super and the 2070 super are close from each other. So both are close to the 5700 xt. Price dictates that the 5700 xt competes with the 2060 super. The 2060 super can beat the 5700 xt on some games (rare), but on the others it's close.

 

Then, those benchmarks can change all the time, depending on the drivers, new drivers are always coming out.... The 2060 super has the advantage of supporting Nvidia Gameworks which is present in many games, not to mention Ray Tracing. Lower power consumption, better geforce experience software and usually better drivers.

[DSD27]

8 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

Might wanna be careful with these so called benchmark videos with no host, no real footage, just some generic gamplay and charts.

 

A whole lot of these are just fabricated and not real benchmarks, there's no way to validate it.

The same can be said for all the websites.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, DSD27 said:

The same can be said for all the websites.

What websites?

 

There's a big difference between known respectable publishers and a random YouTube channel.

[DSD27]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

What websites?

 

There's a big difference between known respectable publishers and a random YouTube channel.

Just because they're "respected" it doesn't mean you can validate it. You just have to trust them.

[GoldenLag]

25 minutes ago, DSD27 said:

Price dictates that the 5700 xt competes with the 2060 super.

you can also just say "performance wise it competes with x card". 

 

14 minutes ago, DSD27 said:

Just because they're "respected" it doesn't mean you can validate it. You just have to trust them.

well. good thing you can take multiple of these trusted reviewers and validate it through cross referencing. also there is a reason they are trusted. they are at the size where they really cant be swayed by sponsorship deals. 

27 minutes ago, DSD27 said:

better geforce experience software

since when did people like Geforce Experience™?

 

[LukeSavenije]

16 minutes ago, DSD27 said:

Just because they're "respected" it doesn't mean you can validate it. You just have to trust them.

I'm not saying you're wrong, to a certain degree you're right

 

but what makes a professional reviewer (yes, people do this for a living) worse than a random guy posting youtube video's, unaware of many influences stuff like windows background tasks, small changes in configuration, temperatures and so on?

[Jon Jon]

Are people in this thread seriously trying to say the RTX 2060S is comparable to the 5700XT in gaming performance?

 

Based on respected reviewers, the 5700XT is 5%-10% slower than the 2070 Super on average across dozens of games.

 

The RTX 2060S's niche is honestly for those both serious about streaming and content creation along with gaming. it blows the RX 5700 series out of the water in terms of what it can churn out in content creation tasks and the better NVENC makes it light years better for Streaming and any other GPU accelerated tasks. Until Navi drivers aren't iffy and AMD fixes VCE support (since the hardware isn't bad, just the software side is trash), the RTX 2060S is the better all around card. If you are just gaming and the other stuff isn't that critical to you, get the 5700XT and enjoy the better gaming experience.

 

When it comes to ray tracing, performance is pretty bad across the board and only the 2080ti really gets good performance using it. We are along way away from most games having great implementation with it too, since let's be real, any of the console games currently in development are not using ray tracing in any meaningful way. The new consoles release over a year from now. I wouldn't expect real showings of ray tracing on consoles until 2021. By that time, cards will be out that can achieve 60fps+ at 1080p+, and that's when it will matter. That will also be the time where upgrading the cards we own today will make sense for better ray tracing performance among other perks. I doubt a single person on this forum is going to be recommending a current generation RTX card for ray tracing a year+ from now and most will be recommending to upgrade if at all possible.

 

With that rant out of the way, I would get an RTX 2080 over an RTX 2070 Super if they are the same price. It is still a smidge faster, so why not get more performance for your money?