mini-itx My mini-ITX Build for gaming

[PTGamer86]

Hello guys,

I finally got my hands on my new mini-ITX. I spended like 2000$ in everything together, well I sold my laptop for 1600$ so wasn´t that a big investment!

 

I just realized that they missed my order in the PSU, I ordered the Focus Plus but got a Focus lol, just realized now  can´t get it back! Hope it won´t impact my setup/ performance! 

 

 

 

 

And its my first time that I gonna play in a high refresh monitor!

Gonna maybe change the GPU (for Free) from a regular Zotac 2080S to a Gigabyte Gaming OC 3x (RTX 2070 Super)

[Jurrunio]

Focus GX is the replacement model of Focus Plus Gold, tho no sure by name only or they actually redid their design.

[PTGamer86]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Focus GX is the replacement model of Focus Plus Gold, tho no sure by name only or they actually redid their design.

Well I only saw it on the photos because I didn´t realized at the moment I picked it up, same price and so one... the guy has to be a real noob as a geek of such big store.

 

Hope it doesn´t impact in my performance because the GX is rated below the Focus Plus

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, PTGamer86 said:

Hope it doesn´t impact in my performance because the GX is rated below the Focus Plus

More like the opposite?

[PTGamer86]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

More like the opposite?

How so?

Thanks!

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, PTGamer86 said:

How so?

Thanks!

Focus GX is in tier A, Focus Plus is in tier D

[PTGamer86]

45 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Focus GX is in tier A, Focus Plus is in tier D

 so I got a better one?  thats nice to hear.

 

U seem to know stuff, how much FPS should I expect from this build in BFV at Ultra with no Ray on at 1080p? Thats about 64 players online  only getting 120 to 125 fps...

[Jurrunio]

13 minutes ago, PTGamer86 said:

U seem to know stuff, how much FPS should I expect from this build in BFV at Ultra with no Ray on at 1080p? Thats about 64 players online  only getting 120 to 125 fps...

that's about it? even a 2080ti does about 120-180fps at 1080 ultra settings no RT so....

 

It is demanding on both the CPU and memory so you could start looking there as well.

[PTGamer86]

20 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

that's about it? even a 2080ti does about 120-180fps at 1080 ultra settings no RT so....

 

It is demanding on both the CPU and memory so you could start looking there as well.

Can u please judge how my setup is performing? 

Its not a clickbait or for views, don´t care anyways, just worry that Im getting something wrong

 

 

Funny if I play on single-player it doesn´t have any spikes  Im getting something wrong or I´m having some bottleneck?!

Sorry for asking!

 

Min 5:55 u can notice that spike!

 

CPU usage and GPU are in the normal range right? Kinda noob on this  

 

Battlefield 1 rocks and plays very fluid, but Battlefield V has some... as u can see on the frametimes, spikes, what can cause it?    most games I tested runs good, I guess in the normal range of the game!

 

CPU is very stable and never drops, even at 5.05GHz (1.32v) I got R15 Cinebench around 1590 Points. Memory runs at 3600MHz (XMP) 

 

 

[Jurrunio]

In the first minutes of gameplay, GPU usage is maxed out while CPU is about 80-90% so GPU bound there and nothing odd, at the point of stutter CPU usage does reach 100% and GPU usage is in the 70s... Your CPU is holding you back.

 

Dont just overclock the core, see if you can overclock the uncore as well. It's also called "cache ratio"

 

Ultra settings tends to render unnecessary things so dont be surprised to get a big performance hit compared to one settings down without a noticeable improvement to quality.

[PTGamer86]

24 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

In the first minutes of gameplay, GPU usage is maxed out while CPU is about 80-90% so GPU bound there and nothing odd, at the point of stutter CPU usage does reach 100% and GPU usage is in the 70s... Your CPU is holding you back.

 

Dont just overclock the core, see if you can overclock the uncore as well. It's also called "cache ratio"

 

Ultra settings tends to render unnecessary things so dont be surprised to get a big performance hit compared to one settings down without a noticeable improvement to quality.

 

Damn u are good.

Well, what u suggest about the OC on the CPU? Im using a MSI motherboard.

What value should be the cache ratio? 

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, PTGamer86 said:

Well, what u suggest about the OC on the CPU? Im using a MSI motherboard.

What value should be the cache ratio? 

At stock it should be 300MHz lower than CPU core ratio, not sure if it raises it for you as you overclock. Keep it within 300-500MHz lower than CPU core frequency is usually the best since 100MHz of core clock is worth more than 100MHz of cache clock unless the difference is huge, say 1GHz.

 

Another thing you could do is the memory, 3600MHz for what timings in the XMP?

[PTGamer86]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

At stock it should be 300MHz lower than CPU core ratio, not sure if it raises it for you as you overclock. Keep it within 300-500MHz lower than CPU core frequency is usually the best since 100MHz of core clock is worth more than 100MHz of cache clock unless the difference is huge, say 1GHz.

 

Another thing you could do is the memory, 3600MHz for what timings in the XMP?

Gona check it right now and I gona take a photo and I show u that

Wait a few...

[PTGamer86]

17 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

At stock it should be 300MHz lower than CPU core ratio, not sure if it raises it for you as you overclock. Keep it within 300-500MHz lower than CPU core frequency is usually the best since 100MHz of core clock is worth more than 100MHz of cache clock unless the difference is huge, say 1GHz.

 

Another thing you could do is the memory, 3600MHz for what timings in the XMP?

 

What can I change here?

[Jurrunio]

4 hours ago, PTGamer86 said:

What can I change here?

So uncore is called "ring frequency" by MSI. increase the multiplier so you get at least 4500MHz, preferably 4700MHz. If it gets unstable, react by adding more core voltage.

 

The memory kit's timings tho... quite disappointing. Memory tuning takes more time tho since you'll get much more options than I do on my cheap-ish Z77 board

[PTGamer86]

24 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

So uncore is called "ring frequency" by MSI. increase the multiplier so you get at least 4500MHz, preferably 4700MHz. If it gets unstable, react by adding more core voltage.

 

The memory kit's timings tho... quite disappointing. Memory tuning takes more time tho since you'll get much more options than I do on my cheap-ish Z77 board

How can I change the ram? What would u recommend for that?

 

I did that (Ring Frequency) a to 4700MHz, its stable, but still below avg in R15 Cinebench!

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, PTGamer86 said:

How can I change the ram? What would u recommend for that?

Raise memory voltage to 1.45V, VCCSA to 1.25V, VCCIO to 1.2V first.

 

1 hour ago, PTGamer86 said:

but still below avg in R15 Cinebench!

how much?

[PTGamer86]

15 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Raise memory voltage to 1.45V, VCCSA to 1.25V, VCCIO to 1.2V first.

 

how much?

Gonna try ur settings! EDIT: Done. What now?

 

Cinebench R15 was 1559 at 5.0GHz

[Jurrunio]

57 minutes ago, PTGamer86 said:

Gonna try ur settings! EDIT: Done. What now?

 

Cinebench R15 was 1559 at 5.0GHz

within margin of error if you ask me. Can get more points out by simply running the test over and over again.

 

57 minutes ago, PTGamer86 said:

Gonna try ur settings! EDIT: Done. What now?

turn on XMP, go into the timings tab, and set CAS to 16, see if it boots. If it does, run memory stress test software (I use this https://hcidesign.com/memtest/, open as many windows as you have CPU threads which is 8 and evenly spread the memory capacity between them while leaving at least 2GB for the rest of the system so 1750MB for each windows) If it doesn't work, raise CAS one tick until it does. Then do the same to tRP and tRCD.

[PTGamer86]

23 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

within margin of error if you ask me. Can get more points out by simply running the test over and over again.

 

turn on XMP, go into the timings tab, and set CAS to 16, see if it boots. If it does, run memory stress test software (I use this https://hcidesign.com/memtest/, open as many windows as you have CPU threads which is 8 and evenly spread the memory capacity between them while leaving at least 2GB for the rest of the system so 1750MB for each windows) If it doesn't work, raise CAS one tick until it does. Then do the same to tRP and tRCD.

Did just now the BIOS update, had 1 year since it had been released the update, well thats done

 

But the memory thing, how do I change CAS to 16?

 

Note: After BIOS update I made just 1659 on Cinebench (same settings as before) LOL...  

[Jurrunio]

13 minutes ago, PTGamer86 said:

But the memory thing, how do I change CAS to 16?

In advanced DRAM configuration, a bit below your last screenshot.

[PTGamer86]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

In advanced DRAM configuration, a bit below your last screenshot.

Well it crashes, even at CAS 17.

 

The best I got now is 18-19-19-39 at 3866MHz

 

Any suggestion? 

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, PTGamer86 said:

Any suggestion? 

Dont push frequency up like that. The higher you go, the more you give up latency for bandwidth which is not always better for games (especially when you're at 3466+ MHz)

[PTGamer86]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Dont push frequency up like that. The higher you go, the more you give up latency for bandwidth which is not always better for games (especially when you're at 3466+ MHz)

So, should I lower the frequency to what value bro?! And thanks, u are very kind and helpfull  

 

Funny, I have now very stable CPU performance after the damn update! 

 

 

Damn what a jump in performance! 

Now, lets focus on the RAM, how can I improve it?  under the DRAM settings are so many things inside, like things I never saw, wanna photo?

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, PTGamer86 said:

Now, lets focus on the RAM, how can I improve it?  under the DRAM settings are so many things inside, like things I never saw, wanna photo?

I'll stay on 3600MHz, personally might even try 3466 to see how well latency's gonna get.

 

Under DRAM settings pretty much all of them are better as the numbers get smaller, except tREFI which should go as high as possible. Of course, stress test every change or it would be hard to roll back.