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I was wondering if someone could tell me the difference between these 2 motherboards and why there's such a price difference. Thanks

 

https://www.newegg.com/msi-performance-gaming-x470-gaming-pro-carbon/p/N82E16813144178

 

https://www.newegg.com/msi-performance-gaming-x470-gaming-plus/p/N82E16813144177

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The pro carbon board has more VRM phases, more steel reinforced slots, including ram slots, more built in RGB, M.2 slot cover, probably more USB or something and RGB headers and whatnot

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1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

The "performance gaming" board has more VRM phases, more steel reinforced slots, including ram slots, more built in RGB, M.2 slot cover, probably more USB or something and RGB headers and whatnot

The Pro Carbon is 10 phases and the Gaming Plus is 8 phases

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AM4 boards VRM rating list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

Buildzoid's AM4 motherboard roundup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti38JS8RuPU

 

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38 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

more vrm phases generally means it can handle more power delivery to the cpu btw. for example if you are getting a 3900x you probably want a 12 phase motherboard


I'm either getting a 3600X or 3800X depending on what my money is going to look like in a few week. I've been building for 10 years but I never got into overclocking because I could never afford to brick anything. So this is my first go at real overclocking. 

 

I'm not too up to date on how VRMs work but I know better VRMs = more headroom to overclock. I really wish I understood how power delivery works. 

 

And I'm wondering if it's even worth it to overclock a 3800X. I do want to overclock my RAM from 3000 to 3200 just as a challenge to myself to see if I can do it. 

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11 minutes ago, Thready said:


I'm either getting a 3600X or 3800X depending on what my money is going to look like in a few week. I've been building for 10 years but I never got into overclocking because I could never afford to brick anything. So this is my first go at real overclocking. 

 

I'm not too up to date on how VRMs work but I know better VRMs = more headroom to overclock. I really wish I understood how power delivery works. 

 

And I'm wondering if it's even worth it to overclock a 3800X. I do want to overclock my RAM from 3000 to 3200 just as a challenge to myself to see if I can do it. 

Get the 3600 or 3700X, the 3600X is not worth it if you overlock, same goes for the 3800X when you can get the 3700X for cheaper and achieve the same performance.

Overlocking does not mean you can brick something, you can have instability it's you go way to extreme but OCing a CPU is fairly easy. Memory in the other hand is more time consuming when you want the most off it but usually getting a small overlock is easy.

 

Better VRMs mean more stable and cooler when you need a lot of power ( Overclocking ), but 10 phases is enough for the 3900X and under, the Zen 2 CPU doesnt draw more power then the Zen + did.

Overlocking is fun and safe, you can always reverse what you did and the worst thing that will happen is you will have to reset CMOS.

Main System: Ryzen 2700, Asus Crosshair VII Hero, EVGA GTX 1080ti SC, 970 EVO Plus NVMe, Crucial Ballistix 3200mhz CL14, CM H500, CM ML240L cpu cooler.

Second System: Ryzen 2400G, Gigabyte B450 DS3H, RX 580 Nitro+, Kingston A400 SSD, Team T-Force 3200mhz CL15

If it ain't overclocked it ain't good...

 

AM4 boards VRM rating list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

Buildzoid's AM4 motherboard roundup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti38JS8RuPU

 

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3 hours ago, Mathieu9836 said:

Get the 3600 or 3700X, the 3600X is not worth it if you overlock, same goes for the 3800X when you can get the 3700X for cheaper and achieve the same performance.

Overlocking does not mean you can brick something, you can have instability it's you go way to extreme but OCing a CPU is fairly easy. Memory in the other hand is more time consuming when you want the most off it but usually getting a small overlock is easy.

 

Better VRMs mean more stable and cooler when you need a lot of power ( Overclocking ), but 10 phases is enough for the 3900X and under, the Zen 2 CPU doesnt draw more power then the Zen + did.

Overlocking is fun and safe, you can always reverse what you did and the worst thing that will happen is you will have to reset CMOS.

Thanks for your reply.  so do you think the cheaper motherboard would be the way to go if I'm getting a 3600 or 3700X?

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You can even go with a good B450 if you can save a bit of money for something else.

Main System: Ryzen 2700, Asus Crosshair VII Hero, EVGA GTX 1080ti SC, 970 EVO Plus NVMe, Crucial Ballistix 3200mhz CL14, CM H500, CM ML240L cpu cooler.

Second System: Ryzen 2400G, Gigabyte B450 DS3H, RX 580 Nitro+, Kingston A400 SSD, Team T-Force 3200mhz CL15

If it ain't overclocked it ain't good...

 

AM4 boards VRM rating list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

Buildzoid's AM4 motherboard roundup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti38JS8RuPU

 

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