i3 3220 bottlenecking?

[KittenHat]

So my i3 3220 bottlenecks me in Battlefield 4 ( even with the new mantle drivers and patch) , and its unplayable in online games. I am just wondering everyone else's experience with this cpu?

[Tmh85]

Bottlenecking what?

[Bonsai99]

So my i3 3220 bottlenecks me in Battlefield 4 ( even with the new mantle drivers and patch) , and its unplayable in online games. I am just wondering everyone else's experience with this cpu?

GPU?

[nsyedhasan]

Bottlenecking depends on the entire system not just one part.

[legopc]

specs or it didnt happen

[KittenHat]

Sorrry I thought I included that for some reason. My gpu is 7850 1gb. with 8gb ram.

[s3ns3]

the i3 goes well with hd 7850. need more info,couse don`t expect ultra at 60 fps with that card

[Gunjob]

Even with Mantle? I doubt the CPU is the bottleneck, what settings and res are you playing at. I'm willing to bet its a GPU bottleneck, since I've seen benchmarks for 2C4T Mantle and its like a 8FPS difference. 

[Lord Pantaloons]

dual core and 1GB of VRAM are your problems

[harrynowl]

So my i3 3220 bottlenecks me in Battlefield 4 ( even with the new mantle drivers and patch) , and its unplayable in online games. I am just wondering everyone else's experience with this cpu?

7850 with 1GB of VRAM isn't really optimal

 for BF4

[deathjester]

So my i3 3220 bottlenecks me in Battlefield 4 ( even with the new mantle drivers and patch) , and its unplayable in online games. I am just wondering everyone else's experience with this cpu?

 

7850 is far from optimized in mantle. R9 290 and R9 260 are. Wait a bit man. I3 kicks butt on Mantle.

 

http://pclab.pl/art55953-3.html

 

http://pclab.pl/art55953-4.html

 

It is faster then a stock 8350 on a R9 290. Give AMD some time to optimize the other cards.

 

They focused on the high end and low end for release. 

[Faa]

7850 with 1GB of VRAM isn't really optimal

 for BF4

It is enough, he's obviously not running it at ultra. If it wasnt enough he would complain here about 1-3 fps which I doubt is the case. When you run out of vram the gpu starts to use the hard drive as swapfile and it just kills your performance like Ive said 1-3 fps or it takes ages before you can spawn or change to a pistol.

Mantle works horrible atm in BF4 so turn it off.

[Wheelzz]

The Battlefield games are fairly CPU intensive, so that is one of the games where you would see a benefit from more cores. You should be able to run BF4 quite well however. Assuming you're not trying to max the game out.

[harrynowl]

It is enough, he's obviously not running it at ultra. If it wasnt enough he would complain here about 1-3 fps which I doubt is the case. When you run out of vram the gpu starts to use the hard drive as swapfile and it just kills your performance like Ive said 1-3 fps or it takes ages before you can spawn or change to a pistol.

Mantle works horrible atm in BF4 so turn it off.

I dunno, on low at 1080p I was using ~1.6GB of VRAM.

[FellTheSky]

if he is running out of  vram, is gonna be a lot more than 1-3 fps. Probably more like 10-15

[flibberdipper]

You're not bottlenecking (the i3 is actually pretty powerful for a dual core), it's just that that card isn't really BF4 ready. Get an R9 280x or a 7970 (whichever is cheaper in your area), or a 2GB GTX 760.

[Faa]

I dunno, on low at 1080p I was using ~1.6GB of VRAM.

Lots of that 1.6GB is cached memory that doesn't give you any performance. See below why it's useless to monitor it

 

if he is running out of  vram, is gonna be a lot more than 1-3 fps. Probably more like 10-15

No see my first post on this thread and relate it to this:

You run out of vram when the SSD/HDD is being used as a swapfile that will massively kill your performance.

[harrynowl]

Lots of that 1.6GB is cached memory that doesn't give you any performance. See below why it's useless to monitor it

 

No see my first post on this thread and relate it to this:

You run out of vram when the SSD/HDD is being used as a swapfile that will massively kill your performance.

 

Lots of that 1.6GB is cached memory that doesn't give you any performance. See below why it's useless to monitor it

 

No see my first post on this thread and relate it to this:

You run out of vram when the SSD/HDD is being used as a swapfile that will massively kill your performance.

Well I'm sure the game would appreciate a bit more VRAM, maybe his bottleneck is elsewhere. Try running at 720p and see if that makes it playable.

[Faa]

Well I'm sure the game would appreciate a bit more VRAM, maybe his bottleneck is elsewhere. Try running at 720p and see if that makes it playable.

As I said his issue is Mantle. Its far from stable in BF4.

[harrynowl]

As I said his issue is Mantle. Its far from stable in BF4.

I use mantle and I don't get garbage FPS.

[Faa]

I use mantle and I don't get garbage FPS.

So this means that nobody has issues? Forums are full of it people reporting issues with mantle.

[harrynowl]

So this means that nobody has issues? Forums are full of it people reporting issues with mantle.

Well in the OP he says "even with the new mantle drivers and patch" which would suggest he had problems before Mantle whilst using DX11.

[deathjester]

I use mantle and I don't get garbage FPS.

 

Do you have a 260/290? That is basically all that works RIGHT atm. AMD told us this before release. Then they added support (broken) for other series (I have no idea why). 

 

The reason they focused on low end high end first is simple. People who spent BANK on r9 290's would have flooded the internet with complaints. Low end? Because people with a crappy machine can stick a R9 260 in it and basically have a Xbox One. There are a ton of people out there with prebuilt's with bad PSU's and I3's and AMD cpu's.

 

Many of the people who bought 270/280 (rebranded 78xx/79xx) also have an I5, so they wouldn't see much improvement anyways. If I was AMD I would have done the same thing, but I probably would have withheld mantle working on the other cards completely. Don't know why they allowed it to work at all until they worked right. Just leads to people saying it is broken.

 

AMD does dumb stuff sometimes. Then again all companies do.

[harrynowl]

Do you have a 260/290? That is basically all that works RIGHT atm. AMD told us this before release. Then they added support (broken) for other series (I have no idea why). 

 

The reason they focused on low end high end first is simple. People who spent BANK on r9 290's would have flooded the internet with complaints. Low end? Because people with a crappy machine can stick a R9 260 in it and basically have a Xbox One. There are a ton of people out there with prebuilt's with bad PSU's and I3's and AMD cpu's.

 

Many of the people who bought 270/280 (rebranded 78xx/79xx) also have an I5, so they wouldn't see much improvement anyways. If I was AMD I would have done the same thing, but I probably would have withheld mantle working on the other cards completely. Don't know why they allowed it to work at all until they worked right. Just leads to people saying it is broken.

 

AMD does dumb stuff sometimes. Then again all companies do.

7950, so it's kind of in the "broken" section.