Itching for an upgrade - which path should i take

[Shodoman]

I7-3770 on a z77-extreme 4 with 4x4 GB ram, RX 580 8 GB; 2 HDDs, 2 SSDs, a 550W 80Plus gold PSU. 1080p 144Hz

Recently been playing WoW Classic and Warframe but want to get into some Assasins's Creed, Witcher 3, recent FarCry's.

 

Got an offer from a friend to buy his Vega 64 for 210 Euro. Got really excited only to figure out that it was too large for my case. Bought a CM H500 and then found out this card draws 290 W of power :(.

At this point I've overstretched my budged once by buying the case.

 

What should i do next?

a) forget about upgrading - the CPU and GPU match pretty well so raise some money for an entire new build in 1-2 years.

b) wait for Black Friday, maybe 5700XT prices come down enough (~480 Euro at the moment.)

c) stretch budget again - buy a 750 W PSU (is this enough?) and then buy the Vega card

d) other (please advise)

[Herman Mcpootis]

550w is good enough for a vega 64.

[191x7]

The i7 3770 would bottleneck the RX Vega 64.

Sell the 3770k, motherboard and RAM, add the 210€ and buy a new CPU&MBO&RAM.

[Stormseeker9]

I would go with a complete new system (Cpu,mobo and ram)

 

any gpu of today will be bottlenecked by your cpu. 

 

What exact model psu do you have?

 

 

[The Torrent]

1 hour ago, Shodoman said:

I7-3770 on a z77-extreme 4 with 4x4 GB ram, RX 580 8 GB; 2 HDDs, 2 SSDs, a 550W 80Plus gold PSU. 1080p 144Hz

Recently been playing WoW Classic and Warframe but want to get into some Assasins's Creed, Witcher 3, recent FarCry's.

 

Got an offer from a friend to buy his Vega 64 for 210 Euro. Got really excited only to figure out that it was too large for my case. Bought a CM H500 and then found out this card draws 290 W of power :(.

At this point I've overstretched my budged once by buying the case.

 

What should i do next?

a) forget about upgrading - the CPU and GPU match pretty well so raise some money for an entire new build in 1-2 years.

b) wait for Black Friday, maybe 5700XT prices come down enough (~480 Euro at the moment.)

c) stretch budget again - buy a 750 W PSU (is this enough?) and then buy the Vega card

d) other (please advise)

you should be ok for that gpu.

 

upgrade wise do cpu mobo ram first

[Shodoman]

8 hours ago, Stormseeker9 said:

What exact model psu do you have?

Super Flower SF-550P14XE

 

9 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

550w is good enough for a vega 64.

are you sure? online calculators said i need a 850W psu with a vega 64 setup. Almost 644W consumption including all peripherals.

 

8 hours ago, The Torrent said:

you should be ok for that gpu.

sorry, i don't understand. You're saying my psu should be enough for a vega 64?

Edited September 27, 2019 by Shodoman
Fixed power supply name

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, Shodoman said:

are you sure? online calculators said i need a 850W psu with a vega 64 setup. Almost 644W consumption including all peripherals.

complete bullshit right there. a rig with an overclocked 7700k and vega 64 only ate ~430w under load.

[ckinfos]

answer 4....

1 x amd ryzen 5 3600

1 x motherboard  b450 (with bios flashback)

1 x 5700 amd custom design(like powercolor red dragon or sapphire pulse) (you can undervolt the card a bit so it will draw a bit less power then but not necceserily)

2 x 8gb 3200 mhz ddr4

keep your psu and other staff

and change case if it cant handle the mobo.

say you will need around 800-1000 euros(depending the shop and prizes offcourse!) and have a 3-5 year system for sure.

 

[Stormseeker9]

1 hour ago, Shodoman said:

Super Flower SP-550P14XE

 

are you sure? online calculators said i need a 850W psu with a vega 64 setup. Almost 644W consumption including all peripherals.

 

sorry, i don't understand. You're saying my psu should be enough for a vega 64?

Definitely get a better PSU.

 

That is a firebrick.

GRab something like corsair RM550x or a Corsair TXM if it has to be cheaper

[Shodoman]

23 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

That is a firebrick.

Was one of the best in it's class, at the time. Here is even a link from this forum to "attest" this.

 

 

Oh, and the actual name is SF-550P14XE, my bad.

[Stormseeker9]

48 minutes ago, Shodoman said:

Was one of the best in it's class, at the time. Here is even a link from this forum to "attest" this.

 

 

Oh, and the actual name is SF-550P14XE, my bad.

You are potentially moving to a brand new system. Wouldn't take the chance mate.

 

 

Did some googling and retract my comment.

[LukeSavenije]

1 hour ago, Stormseeker9 said:

That is a firebrick.

it's like... not at all

 

it's even pretty decent these days actually, op currently has nothing to worry about here

[5x5]

42 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

You are potentially moving to a brand new system. Wouldn't take the chance mate.

Golden Green is fine. What are you on about?

[5x5]

2 hours ago, Shodoman said:

Super Flower SP-550P14XE

 

are you sure? online calculators said i need a 850W psu with a vega 64 setup. Almost 644W consumption including all peripherals.

 

sorry, i don't understand. You're saying my psu should be enough for a vega 64?

Your Power Supply can easily power a Vega64 and a 9900K. No need to panick

[Stormseeker9]

4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

it's like... not at all

 

it's even pretty decent these days actually, op currently has nothing to worry about here

Confused it with a different unit. Did some googling and rectact my comment

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Confused it with a different unit. Did some googling and rectact my comment

probably antec ea green or something

[Stormseeker9]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

probably antec ea green or something

uuh.. fuck you read my history haha, but yeah similar to that 

[Shodoman]

As an update:

• bought a power measuring outlet and put my system to the test
• total power draw was 330 W peak with the RX 580 - that leaves me with 200 W headroom, 150 W if i want to peak at 89 % of the rated 12 v rail capacity
• i went and got the Vega 64 Strix - the price to performance unbeatable for an upgrade, at this point
• playing games have peaked at 420 W system power draw

It is possible that because the CPU is bottlenecking the card in some games this will help total system power to stay well under rate 540W of the PSU.

I consider this to be the best answer for my need as it gives me: - improved performance today; - step by step upgrade path (opposed to all at once); - best price to performance;

 

Thank you for your answers.