Questions regarding overclocking RAM

[goshot]

Hello i have some questions regarding overclokcing RAM

• If you overclocked the RAM, can you still safely remove it and put it back into the same RAM slot, or into another slot? Does it remember that it's overclocked even after i removed it? Are there any issues if i remove RAM that's overclocked?
• After i've overclocked the RAM, can i later decide to bring it back down to its SPD/not overclocked speed? And if i can: If the memory fails some time after that, will my warranty cover it, even though i overclocked it some time ago? I know that if the RAM failed while it was overclocked the warranty won't cover it.
• Can i overclock the RAM over a CPU's System Memory Specification? For example if i have a ryzen 5 1600, with a system memory specification of 2667 MHz, can i overclock the RAM to work at 2933 MHz? And if i can, will there be any problems, any conflicts with the CPU? And why does it work/not work?
• If i change the CPU with another one, will there be any problems? What if it's system memory specification is lower than the previous CPU? What if it's memory specification is higher tha nthe previous CPU? Will there be any problems? Any compatibility issues?

If you've got any handy or insightful tips regarding overclocking RAM, especially regarding something i haven't mentioned, please share them!

Sorry if got anything wrong - i've heard it's technically not overclocking but it's something similar.

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, goshot said:

If you overclocked the RAM, can you still safely remove it and put it back into the same RAM slot, or into another slot? Does it remember that it's overclocked even after i removed it? Are there any issues if i remove RAM that's overclocked?

as long as you dont boot the system up when the stick isnt there, it will remember the settings. Or you could just save a profile

 

6 minutes ago, goshot said:

After i've overclocked the RAM, can i later decide to bring it back down to its SPD/not overclocked speed? And if i can: If the memory fails some time after that, will my warranty cover it, even though i overclocked it some time ago? I know that if the RAM failed while it was overclocked the warranty won't cover it.

Yes, and yes because they wont know you've overclocked unless you tell them.

 

7 minutes ago, goshot said:

Can i overclock the RAM over a CPU's System Memory Specification? For example if i have a ryzen 5 1600, with a system memory specification of 2667 MHz, can i overclock the RAM to work at 2933 MHz? And if i can, will there be any problems, any conflicts with the CPU? And why does it work/not work?

Yes you can go past that, all the time. It's just not guaranteed by the CPU manufacturer and could crash

 

8 minutes ago, goshot said:

If i change the CPU with another one, will there be any problems? What if it's system memory specification is lower than the previous CPU? What if it's memory specification is higher tha nthe previous CPU? Will there be any problems? Any compatibility issues?

maybe, a new CPU might have a worse memory controller and hence your old overclock is unstable. On the contrary, it could overclock better.

[Turtle Rig]

16 minutes ago, goshot said:

Hello i have some questions regarding overclokcing RAM

• If you overclocked the RAM, can you still safely remove it and put it back into the same RAM slot, or into another slot? Does it remember that it's overclocked even after i removed it? Are there any issues if i remove RAM that's overclocked?
• After i've overclocked the RAM, can i later decide to bring it back down to its SPD/not overclocked speed? And if i can: If the memory fails some time after that, will my warranty cover it, even though i overclocked it some time ago? I know that if the RAM failed while it was overclocked the warranty won't cover it.
• Can i overclock the RAM over a CPU's System Memory Specification? For example if i have a ryzen 5 1600, with a system memory specification of 2667 MHz, can i overclock the RAM to work at 2933 MHz? And if i can, will there be any problems, any conflicts with the CPU? And why does it work/not work?
• If i change the CPU with another one, will there be any problems? What if it's system memory specification is lower than the previous CPU? What if it's memory specification is higher tha nthe previous CPU? Will there be any problems? Any compatibility issues?

If you've got any handy or insightful tips regarding overclocking RAM, especially regarding something i haven't mentioned, please share them!

Sorry if got anything wrong - i've heard it's technically not overclocking but it's something similar.

Also to ad to what Jurrunio said which is all true...  For a mere 250mhz bump it is not worth it to lose your latency.  As both latency and Mhz matter.  However 2666Mhz and 2900Mhz is the same sh*T maybe 1 or 2 fps more.  However you must relax your timings and increase them and that will slow down system.  Your better of trying to stay at RAM stock speed and see if you can reduce the CL and what not.

[goshot]

20 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

as long as you dont boot the system up when the stick isnt there, it will remember the settings. Or you could just save a profile

What is a RAM profile? How do you save a profile for the RAM?

Also will it also forget the latency settings as well? Whatever applies to the frequency settings also apply to latency settings right?

 

Just curious, if i boot the PC when i removed the RAM, what will happen? If i put the RAM back, will it go back to its SPD speed, will there be any problems with the RAM or the settings?

 

20 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Yes you can go past that, all the time. It's just not guaranteed by the CPU manufacturer and could crash

A crash by itself isn't that dangerous, right? Can't i just open the bios again and set it to a lower frequency?

 

19 hours ago, Turtle Rig said:

However you must relax your timings and increase them and that will slow down system.

What do you mean by this?

 

19 hours ago, Turtle Rig said:

Your better of trying to stay at RAM stock speed and see if you can reduce the CL and what not.

The RAM i was looking at has a SPD speed of 2133 MHz, it can go all the way up to 3000 MHz. Would you suggest i go for another RAM with a SPD speed of 2666/2933 MHz?

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, goshot said:

What is a RAM profile? How do you save a profile for the RAM?

Also will it also forget the latency settings as well? Whatever applies to the frequency settings also apply to latency settings right?

 

Just curious, if i boot the PC when i removed the RAM, what will happen? If i put the RAM back, will it go back to its SPD speed, will there be any problems with the RAM or the settings?

 

A crash by itself isn't that dangerous, right? Can't i just open the bios again and set it to a lower frequency?

 

What do you mean by this?

 

The RAM i was looking at has a SPD speed of 2133 MHz, it can go all the way up to 3000 MHz. Would you suggest i go for another RAM with a SPD speed of 2666/2933 MHz?

You should see the stock timings of your RAM in BIOS.  This is the rams latency and it is going to be something like CL17 or CL16.  Personally if you haven't or don't know much about RAM timings don't touch it. 

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, goshot said:

What is a RAM profile? How do you save a profile for the RAM

It's not RAM specific, it saves everything apart from boot device.

 

3 minutes ago, goshot said:

Just curious, if i boot the PC when i removed the RAM, what will happen? If i put the RAM back, will it go back to its SPD speed, will there be any problems with the RAM or the settings?

It will go back to default settings

 

3 minutes ago, goshot said:

A crash by itself isn't that dangerous, right? Can't i just open the bios again and set it to a lower frequency?

Yes it's safe. Just clear CMOS of it doesnt get you back to BIOS

[goshot]

3 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

You should see the stock timings of your RAM in BIOS.  This is the rams latency and it is going to be something like CL17 or CL16.  Personally if you haven't or don't know much about RAM timings don't touch it. 

Doesn't XMP take care of latency timings when overclocking? So i dont have to do anything myself, right?

[Turtle Rig]

4 minutes ago, goshot said:

Doesn't XMP take care of latency timings when overclocking? So i dont have to do anything myself, right?

Yes sir it does.  Sometimes X.M.P doesn't work properly unless you change the speed manually.  When your overclock you want the RAM to be X.M.P so it doesn't get overclocked as well.

[goshot]

5 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

When your overclock you want the RAM to be X.M.P so it doesn;t get overclocked as well.

Sorry, i didn't get this part too.

Did you mean that if i change the latency, XMP will make sure the latency is only changed, and not the frequency as well?

[Turtle Rig]

8 minutes ago, goshot said:

Sorry, i didn't get this part too.

Did you mean that if i change the latency, XMP will make sure the latency is only changed, and not the frequency as well?

When you put the RAM in and go to motherboard it will show default latency timings so you don't have to do anything about that it is already set for you.  Just some mobos dont give you full speed like a 3200Mhz is detected as 2133Mhz so you can make is X.M.P so you get the 3200Mhz as just a example.  Also sometimes you must set the memory clock manually which is no biggie.