upgrade gf#s pc

[Valid_Hensel]

AMD FX-8320e, socket? good cooler? and best graphics card that wont bootleneck:)

[Stormseeker9]

So you want to upgrade everything or build a system around the FX8320?

[Valid_Hensel]

2 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

So you want to upgrade everything or build a system around the FX8320?

I want to expand the CPU cooler and her graphics card. but i dont know enough about the cpu to know if it is the bootleneck with a 1050 ti

 

[Jurrunio]

8320e is on am3+, along with the other CPUs that are still bad for gaming. Best GPU that wont bottleneck is the RX 580 or 1060

[Valid_Hensel]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

8320e is on am3+, along with the other CPUs that are still bad for gaming. Best GPU that wont bottleneck is the RX 580 or 1060

yeah i looked at the cpu and it said it is a 8 core but its actually just 4 with 8 logical cores but the gpu she has now is a 610

 

[Tristerin]

Just now, Valid_Hensel said:

yeah i looked at the cpu and it said it is a 8 core but its actually just 4 with 8 logical cores but the gpu she has now is a 610

 

Its 4 chiplets with 2 cores each, but the cores share resources so if 1 core is using 1 of the resources the other core sits idle until that resource is made available.

 

In gaming the FX 8350 (my experience) was not bottlenecked by gaming as the resources shared weren't impacted by the games I play (mostly AAA titles or competitive shooters) - the games that would utilize 4, did so, the games that would utilize 6 did so, the games that would utilize 8 - did so.

 

The real issue with this, in 2019, is the abysmal IPC on the single core even OC'd to 5.0ghz.

 

My opinion, having paired it with (it being my FX 8350) an R9 Fury (20% better than a 580 basically) - the FX 8350 cut the balls off my Fury.  I think the best GPU for you would be an RX 570 4gb, however the 580 or 1060 are both solid choices that wont be bottlenecked too seriously.

[Valid_Hensel]

3 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Its 4 chiplets with 2 cores each, but the cores share resources so if 1 core is using 1 of the resources the other core sits idle until that resource is made available.

 

In gaming the FX 8350 (my experience) was not bottlenecked by gaming as the resources shared weren't impacted by the games I play (mostly AAA titles or competitive shooters) - the games that would utilize 4, did so, the games that would utilize 6 did so, the games that would utilize 8 - did so.

 

The real issue with this, in 2019, is the abysmal IPC on the single core even OC'd to 5.0ghz.

 

My opinion, having paired it with (it being my FX 8350) an R9 Fury (20% better than a 580 basically) - the FX 8350 cut the balls off my Fury.  I think the best GPU for you would be an RX 570 4gb, however the 580 or 1060 are both solid choices that wont be bottlenecked too seriously.

I was gonna ask about perfomance but thank you. i think ill go with a 580 because its on sale and is cheaper than a 570 here¨rn

 

 

[Valid_Hensel]

7 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Its 4 chiplets with 2 cores each, but the cores share resources so if 1 core is using 1 of the resources the other core sits idle until that resource is made available.

 

In gaming the FX 8350 (my experience) was not bottlenecked by gaming as the resources shared weren't impacted by the games I play (mostly AAA titles or competitive shooters) - the games that would utilize 4, did so, the games that would utilize 6 did so, the games that would utilize 8 - did so.

 

The real issue with this, in 2019, is the abysmal IPC on the single core even OC'd to 5.0ghz.

 

My opinion, having paired it with (it being my FX 8350) an R9 Fury (20% better than a 580 basically) - the FX 8350 cut the balls off my Fury.  I think the best GPU for you would be an RX 570 4gb, however the 580 or 1060 are both solid choices that wont be bottlenecked too seriously.

what kind of cooler did you use btw?

im thinking of te Cooler Master ML120L RGB

[Tristerin]

Just now, Valid_Hensel said:

what kind of cooler did you use btw?

im thinking of te Cooler Master ML120L RGB

Corsair H100i GTX 240mm AIO

 

I wouldn't spend money on a 120mm AIO unless it was sub $30 (my preference as I have bought many at under that price on sale).  That cooler "should" work but you would be spending less on a better air cooler imho. 

[Stormseeker9]

1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

Corsair H100i GTX 240mm AIO

 

I wouldn't spend money on a 120mm AIO unless it was sub $30 (my preference as I have bought many at under that price on sale).  That cooler "should" work but you would be spending less on a better air cooler imho. 

Just never spend money on a 120mm AIO. Doesn’t cool well, not worth the money and air coolers perform better here 

[Tristerin]

Example - I just bought a 160w TDP air cooler for $17 shipped (its still on sale at Newegg) and your chip is 95w, it would work great and be more affordable. 

 

If you MUST go AIO you wont be able to do any overclocking, and if its hot in your area Im not sure a 120mm could keep up with that excessively hot chip

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Just never spend money on a 120mm AIO. Doesn’t cool well, not worth the money and air coolers perform better here 

Must be sub $30 and depends on the fan.  Ive bought multiple CM 120mm AIOs for $24 shipped, which is a GREAT buy in my book. 

 

My post above agrees with this however as I just got a 160w tdp air cooler for $17 shipped (to use with rebuilding my FX 8350 tbh which I find hilarious with this thread coming up) as I don't want to use the 240mm aio on it anymore

[Stormseeker9]

1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

Example - I just bought a 160w TDP air cooler for $17 shipped (its still on sale at Newegg) and your chip is 95w, it would work great and be more affordable. 

 

If you MUST go AIO you wont be able to do any overclocking, and if its hot in your area Im not sure a 120mm could keep up with that excessively hot chip

Yeah but some cheapo air coolers just cool shit, bad fabrication or not efficient cooling, no matter what the box says. 

 

r

[Tristerin]

@Stormseeker9 I should mention, I probably wont buy another AIO in my life.  Ive found building my own loops are cheaper than buying a 240mm AIO even.  Just takes 30-40 days for the parts to get here.

[Tristerin]

Just now, Stormseeker9 said:

Yeah but some cheapo air coolers just cool shit, bad fabrication or not efficient cooling, no matter what the box says. 

 

r

Good reviews, PCCOOLER is a Asian company, their fans suck but I have a huge box of 120mm fans I planned on replacing and putting identical fans in push pull on it anyhow

[Stormseeker9]

3 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

@Stormseeker9 I should mention, I probably wont buy another AIO in my life.  Ive found building my own loops are cheaper than buying a 240mm AIO even.  Just takes 30-40 days for the parts to get here.

Don’t know where u live that shipping takes so long, and being so cheap. Here in Europe going custom definitely costs more than an aio 

[Tristerin]

2 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Don’t know where u live that shipping takes so long, and being so cheap. Here in Europe going custom definitely costs more than an aio 

USA - between Ebay and Aliexpress I can build a multiple radiator loop for less than $70 if I cheap out on no name fans (or use non SP fans which I have TONS of, it works but SP just works a bit better).  I usually spend around $60 on the pump/res/rads/tubes/fittings then spend around $30-50 on the fans - building my third loop like this now, just waiting on the pump to arrive (haven't bought rads yet, they ship quicker from Malaysia, usually 2 week turn so I have time to watch prices fluctuate before I buy)

[Stormseeker9]

5 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

USA - between Ebay and Aliexpress I can build a multiple radiator loop for less than $70 if I cheap out on no name fans (or use non SP fans which I have TONS of, it works but SP just works a bit better).  I usually spend around $60 on the pump/res/rads/tubes/fittings then spend around $30-50 on the fans - building my third loop like this now, just waiting on the pump to arrive (haven't bought rads yet, they ship quicker from Malaysia, usually 2 week turn so I have time to watch prices fluctuate before I buy)

+ cpu or/and GPU block?

[Valid_Hensel]

19 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Yeah but some cheapo air coolers just cool shit, bad fabrication or not efficient cooling, no matter what the box says. 

 

r

yeah sure there are a lot of decent air coolers, but i think she would like the aio but it doesnt matter

 

[Tristerin]

19 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

+ cpu or/and GPU block?

CPU blocks are $12 average, GPU blocks  can range from $3 to $14 depends how much DIY you want to do (block and block strap for a GPU is less than $4 - Ive ran a loop with this and used heat sinks on the GPU memory, voltage controller, and VRMs to keep them cool and the case flow does the job for those heat sinks.

 

Those prices can dip lower, I usually look a couple times a week.  Catch Aliexpress on a sale and you can get an AM4 copper block for $10 shipped.  

[Stormseeker9]

2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

CPU blocks are $12 average, GPU blocks  can range from $3 to $14 depends how much DIY you want to do (block and block strap for a GPU is less than $4 - Ive ran a loop with this and used heat sinks on the GPU memory, voltage controller, and VRMs to keep them cool and the case flow does the job for those heat sinks.

 

Those prices can dip lower, I usually look a couple times a week.  Catch Aliexpress on a sale and you can get an AM4 copper block for $10 shipped.  

Dunno what crap you are buying.. but if I go custom loop I want high quality good

looking stuff, just simple not too much diy

[Tristerin]

Just now, Stormseeker9 said:

Dunno what crap you are buying.. but if I go custom loop I want high quality good

looking stuff, just simple not too much diy

Metal is metal lol there is no "crap" there is just sourced materials instead of buying something someone else bought and rebranded and charges you triple or more for.

 

The same blocks I buy on Aliexpress are on Amazon, Newegg and other electronics retailers for triple the price or more.  Just sayin.  I have 1 AM3 block, 1 LGA1155 block, and 2 AM4 blocks.

 

Since AIO's are mixed metal loops (they are, take one apart) I use aluminum radiators and science to beat (like its already been beaten for many many years) corrosion.  Aluminum radiators I spend easily 1/3rd the price over copper rads and the temperature difference is negligible since radiator surface area is king, fans next, materials third for affecting the temps.