Build critique wanted.

[OldHunter]

please critique my build.

 

Primary use is gaming and looking for 4k/1440p 60hz and would like to keep an upgrade path open.  Target is $2,000 Canadian, although I'm already over... 

Not opposed to go intel I5 9600 if that makes sense for some reason.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($259.00 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($152.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($259.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($959.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($124.99 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($134.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case Fan: Corsair SP120 RGB 3-Pack w/Controller 52 CFM 120 mm Fans  ($79.61 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $2151.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 12:13 EDT-0400

[Turtle Rig]

3 minutes ago, OldHunter said:

please critique my build.

 

Primary use is gaming and looking for 4k/1440p 60hz and would like to keep an upgrade path open.  Target is $2,000 Canadian, although I'm already over... 

Not opposed to go intel I5 9600 if that makes sense for some reason.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($259.00 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($152.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($259.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($959.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($124.99 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($134.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case Fan: Corsair SP120 RGB 3-Pack w/Controller 52 CFM 120 mm Fans  ($79.61 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $2151.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 12:13 EDT-0400

Your build is pretty good alto I rather get the 2700x and a X470 mobo.  Why would you get a X570 when your processor is 2600 ?  Are you planning on a future upgrade to Ryzen 3xxx series ?  By that time new mobo has come out and new CPU's.  The video card is outrageously priced very high along with CPU.  Other then that is a good.

[PopsicleHustler]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

Your build is pretty good alto I rather get the 2700x and a X470 mobo.  Why would you get a X570 when your processor is 2600 ?  Are you planning on a future upgrade to Ryzen 3xxx series ?  By that time new mobo has come out and new CPU's.  The video card is outrageously priced very high along with CPU.  Other then that is a good.

This is in Canadian Dollars, not US.

[PopsicleHustler]

Here is much better build.

 

3rd gen Ryzen CPU.

Better motherboard.

Better storage setup.

Lower wattage PSU because 750 is an overkill. Same model though.

Standard RTX2080 but with great cooler on it for overclocking. You can easily overclock it and match performance of 2080 Super.

If you want to go closer to 2k CAD, get a different case - P350X is a great option for less money.

 

But TBH I would go with B450/X470 motherboard unless you plan on getting high end Ryzen 3000 CPU in the near future.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$265.50 @ Vuugo
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard	$279.99 @ Newegg Canada
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$117.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Kingston A400 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$62.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Storage	Seagate Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$82.32 @ Vuugo
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB AORUS XTREME Video Card	$919.00 @ Canada Computers
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$124.99 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.99 @ Memory Express
Case Fan	Corsair SP120 RGB 3-Pack w/Controller 52 CFM 120 mm Fans	$79.61 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2042.38
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 12:33 EDT-0400

 

[Fasauceome]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$265.50 @ Vuugo
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.99 @ Newegg Canada
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$152.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$259.50 @ Vuugo
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card	$959.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$124.99 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$109.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan	Corsair SP120 RGB 3-Pack w/Controller 52 CFM 120 mm Fans	$79.61 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2102.56
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 12:35 EDT-0400

Better CPU within the same price point, just opted for a less expensive motherboard and power supply. The rest of the selections are pretty solid. You could opt for less fancy ram:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/VNJtt6/corsair-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmk16gx4m2d3600c18

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$265.50 @ Vuugo
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.99 @ Newegg Canada
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$152.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$259.50 @ Vuugo
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card	$959.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$124.99 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$109.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan	Corsair SP120 RGB 3-Pack w/Controller 52 CFM 120 mm Fans	$79.61 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2102.56
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 12:35 EDT-0400

Better CPU within the same price point, just opted for a less expensive motherboard and power supply. The rest of the selections are pretty solid.

I like this Fasauceome build the best.  No reason to spend all that money on a X570 when you have a 2xxx CPU.  Everything looks good with this build, however I would opt for a 8 core CPU but that is just me.

[brob]

I see that several of us have the same thoughts vis a vis the cpu and motherboard.

 

This list comes in under budget. It gives up some on the case and eliminates the RGB fans which don't contribute to performance.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($265.50 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($259.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($959.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-06 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.50 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Memory Express) 
Total: $1944.46
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 12:38 EDT-0400

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($265.50 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: OLOy WarHawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($127.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($129.21 @ shopRBC) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Computer 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  ($869.88 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($124.99 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case Fan: GameMax Eclipse RGB 43.2 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($11.03 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case Fan: GameMax Eclipse RGB 43.2 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($11.03 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case Fan: GameMax Eclipse RGB 43.2 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($11.03 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $1880.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 12:45 EDT-0400

[LogicWeasel]

We're all approaching the same trend.  Here's where I stripped out the fat and went for better value on PSU and GPU.  Law of diminishing returns is terrible on the 2080 Super, just fine to go with a good aftermarket 2080:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($265.50 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($104.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($259.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING AMP Video Card  ($879.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.50 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($114.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $1894.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 12:44 EDT-0400

[Turtle Rig]

4 minutes ago, brob said:

I see that several of us have the same thoughts vis a vis the cpu and motherboard.

 

This list comes in under budget. It gives up some on the case and eliminates the RGB fans which don't contribute to performance.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($265.50 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($94.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($259.50 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($959.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-06 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.50 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Memory Express) 
Total: $1944.46
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-31 12:38 EDT-0400

Hey brob Im assuming that mobo has the button on the back to flash the BIOS so it works with the 3600 !

[OldHunter]

My thinking for the chip and x570 board was to update to ryzen 4xxx late next year.  Understanding that it might not be the best use of money. 

[LogicWeasel]

25 minutes ago, OldHunter said:

Primary use is gaming and looking for 4k/1440p 60hz

What actual monitor will you be gaming on?  Helps to know the real rez before dumping almost $1000 on a GPU.

[brob]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

Hey brob Im assuming that mobo has the button on the back to flash the BIOS so it works with the 3600 !

Yes. MSI calls the feature "BIOS Flashback" or "Flash BIOS Button".

[LogicWeasel]

2 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

that mobo has the button on the back to flash the BIOS

Yes.  BIOS USB Q-Flash is on all MSI Tomahawk B450 boards.  (Also the B450 A-Pro and Gaming Plus)

[OldHunter]

1 minute ago, LogicWeasel said:

What actual monitor will you be gaming on?  Helps to know the real rez before dumping almost $1000 on a GPU.

Panasonic FZ950 OLED

[Turtle Rig]

5 minutes ago, OldHunter said:

My thinking for the chip and x570 board was to update to ryzen 4xxx late next year.  Understanding that it might not be the best use of money. 

The 4xxx series is not any time soon. Next year their going to release a refresh of their current Zen 2.  Then in 2021 we should see 4xxx and what not.  Also by that time new mobos are coming out anyways.  Just doesn't make sense, don't hold your breath on a 4xxx a year after the 3xxx and fact I heard they will only refresh the current Zen 2 like I said.

[OldHunter]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

The 4xxx series is not any time soon. Next year their going to release a refresh of their current Zen 2.  Then in 2021 we should see 4xxx and what not.  Also by that time new mobos are coming out anyways.  Just doesn't make sense, don't hold your breath on a 4xxx a year after the 3xxx and fact I heard they will only refresh the current Zen 2 like I said.

Thanks. Makes the B450 tomahawk and 3600 seem like a much better use of money.