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grangervoldemort

What does this guy mean when he says file access will be slow, and that it won't bog down the system?

 

Whatever computer you upgrade to, I'd invest in a 2TB RAID system, connect it to the highest-speed port your computer has and forget about finding a computer to match your data-hoarding habit. Sure, file access will still be slow, but it won't bog down the system while they're loading.

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1 minute ago, Mr.Humble said:

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Wouldn't have thought it matters as he is saying that NOT using RAID and having the drives in the PC would 'bog' it down. At least that's what I took from it.

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3 minutes ago, grangervoldemort said:

Wouldn't have thought it matters as he is saying that NOT using RAID and having the drives in the PC would 'bog' it down. At least that's what I took from it.

I believe he either talks about a laptop or has absolutely no idea what the heck he's talking about.

 

A hard drive is slower than an SSD, quite signifficantly actually, but it's good to store large amounts of data.

 

But unless accessed you will never know the drive is even in the PC.

 

As far as RAID goes, it is not specified what kind he has in mind, and there's a lot of configurations. Some useful for faster access time, some absolutely not recommended for important data.

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But it seems that he is saying that putting large drives into a PC will 'bog it down'. Is that not what he was saying?

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4 minutes ago, grangervoldemort said:

But it seems that he is saying that putting large drives into a PC will 'bog it down'. Is that not what he was saying?

It won't bog it down, but a hdd is gonna be pretty slow for lots of work these days. A drive alone won't slow anything down.

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Aaron Souppouris

Neither will buying a new Mac Pro. Part of the reason Apple is replacing the Mac Pro is that it's not very expandable. Upping the storage to handle all your media is going to add more than $500 to the price. It seems that your main bottleneck right now is the hard drive. The gulf between a hybrid and an SSD is pretty enormous.

While you might see its solid-state portion matching an SSD in repeated tasks like loading the OS or a frequently used app, everyday computing is more random than that. The 500GB SSD inside Apple's high-end MacBook Pro will dramatically improve your day-to-day life, from loading apps quicker to supporting the RAM with fast paging speeds.

 

Whatever computer you upgrade to, I'd invest in a 2TB RAID system, connect it to the highest-speed port your computer has and forget about finding a computer to match your data-hoarding habit. Sure, file access will still be slow, but it won't bog down the system while they're loading.

 

Bottom line is the modern components of a MacBook Pro will keep pace, or exceed, the base Mac Pro in almost every task, for less money. The main sticking point with the current crop is battery life, but if you're using it as a desktop, that point is moot.

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- Asus Xonar D2X PCI-E

- TP-Link Wireless N Adapter TL-WDN4800
- Bluetooth Adapter - TRUST 17772

 

- OS Drive Crucial MX500 500GB

 

- Samsung BluRay ODD


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55 minutes ago, grangervoldemort said:

Aaron Souppouris

Neither will buying a new Mac Pro. Part of the reason Apple is replacing the Mac Pro is that it's not very expandable. Upping the storage to handle all your media is going to add more than $500 to the price. It seems that your main bottleneck right now is the hard drive. The gulf between a hybrid and an SSD is pretty enormous.

While you might see its solid-state portion matching an SSD in repeated tasks like loading the OS or a frequently used app, everyday computing is more random than that. The 500GB SSD inside Apple's high-end MacBook Pro will dramatically improve your day-to-day life, from loading apps quicker to supporting the RAM with fast paging speeds.

 

Whatever computer you upgrade to, I'd invest in a 2TB RAID system, connect it to the highest-speed port your computer has and forget about finding a computer to match your data-hoarding habit. Sure, file access will still be slow, but it won't bog down the system while they're loading.

 

Bottom line is the modern components of a MacBook Pro will keep pace, or exceed, the base Mac Pro in almost every task, for less money. The main sticking point with the current crop is battery life, but if you're using it as a desktop, that point is moot.

and your question is?

 

Do you have a mac pro or are looking for storage?

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