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Hello all, I have decided to make a new pc in the next couple of weeks.
This new pc will mainly be used for gaming, however, I will do some Photo Editing and Video editing along with recording and streaming.
I live in England and my currency will be in British Pounds (As you should Expect xd).
(The aim of the build is also to be black/white from the inside of the case and then hopefully a nice White case to finish it off)

My Budget is round about £1300 and can be pushed about, however, not too much. 
With the new release of the Ryzen CPUs and also the new GPUs I have mainly been looking at the Ryzen 3700x as by what I have seen it is unbelievable for its price and also balances out the gaming experience while streaming or rendering in the background (YouTube Benchmark videos).
For the motherboard, well what can I say. I can pick from a crap ton of motherboards, however, one that  caught my eye was the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite at the price of £200, even though I could go for a b450, etc, this one just really caught me and all the reviews I have seen say this one is extremely good for saying it is £200. I have also gone with the x570 as I am not too experienced in pc building and I am justing starting to come to terms with certain things, so I am not familiar with my way around a bios and I don't even have a clue when it comes to "bios flashbacks" (So you can make a b450 etc compatible with the new-gen) correct me if I am wrong, so other than doing it myself I could go and find a pc shop near me, however, I highly doubt that they will do something like this. (I am sorry if I sound stupid)

For RAM I am not too sure what to go for, however, if I had to pick I would probably go ddr4-3200, corsair vengeance since I think 3700x might benefit it more than having 3000 or lower, however, this came from videos I watched and they might be totally making it up, idk, its the internet at the end of the day.
For the GPU that will be totally up to you guys as I have no idea where to start, don't get me wrong, I have done a lot of research into this, however, everybody has their own opinion and I would like to see them first before I direct you towards a certain make as that what happened with an old post of mine and I went round in a complete circle.
As for the storage, well, I have already sorted that out, so don't worry about it.
I will also appreciate it if you found a really nice White or White/Black case, at the moment I really like the Corsair Spec 06 and will prob add some extra case fans if needed, however, will be open to different cases.

I am not looking to OverClock as I don't trust myself, however, I will practice in the near future on my old machines.  This means I can save money on a CPU cooler as I will not need a top OC cooler for OC, but I could always buy a decent air cooler or even an AIO if there is money to spare.
I am using two 1080p 60 Hz monitors, however, I will be buying some new monitors after building the computer. I haven't looked into it that much but I will prob get a 1440p 144Hz Monitor (idk if that will be a could choice)

Thank you for taking your time to read this as a normal thread, "says budget, show current Idea then let everyone help" however just wanted you guys to see my view of things and hopefully you can help me learn along the way.
(Wrote this at like 3 am sorry for awful writing etc).

Will post my build after a decent amount of people have commented on their opinion/view. 
Thanks again :).

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58 minutes ago, Finley_Crofts said:

Hello all, I have decided to make a new pc in the next couple of weeks.
This new pc will mainly be used for gaming, however, I will do some Photo Editing and Video editing along with recording and streaming.
I live in England and my currency will be in British Pounds (As you should Expect xd).
(The aim of the build is also to be black/white from the inside of the case and then hopefully a nice White case to finish it off)

My Budget is round about £1300 and can be pushed about, however, not too much. 
With the new release of the Ryzen CPUs and also the new GPUs I have mainly been looking at the Ryzen 3700x as by what I have seen it is unbelievable for its price and also balances out the gaming experience while streaming or rendering in the background (YouTube Benchmark videos).
For the motherboard, well what can I say. I can pick from a crap ton of motherboards, however, one that  caught my eye was the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite at the price of £200, even though I could go for a b450, etc, this one just really caught me and all the reviews I have seen say this one is extremely good for saying it is £200. I have also gone with the x570 as I am not too experienced in pc building and I am justing starting to come to terms with certain things, so I am not familiar with my way around a bios and I don't even have a clue when it comes to "bios flashbacks" (So you can make a b450 etc compatible with the new-gen) correct me if I am wrong, so other than doing it myself I could go and find a pc shop near me, however, I highly doubt that they will do something like this. (I am sorry if I sound stupid)

For RAM I am not too sure what to go for, however, if I had to pick I would probably go ddr4-3200, corsair vengeance since I think 3700x might benefit it more than having 3000 or lower, however, this came from videos I watched and they might be totally making it up, idk, its the internet at the end of the day.
For the GPU that will be totally up to you guys as I have no idea where to start, don't get me wrong, I have done a lot of research into this, however, everybody has their own opinion and I would like to see them first before I direct you towards a certain make as that what happened with an old post of mine and I went round in a complete circle.
As for the storage, well, I have already sorted that out, so don't worry about it.
I will also appreciate it if you found a really nice White or White/Black case, at the moment I really like the Corsair Spec 06 and will prob add some extra case fans if needed, however, will be open to different cases.

I am not looking to OverClock as I don't trust myself, however, I will practice in the near future on my old machines.  This means I can save money on a CPU cooler as I will not need a top OC cooler for OC, but I could always buy a decent air cooler or even an AIO if there is money to spare.
I am using two 1080p 60 Hz monitors, however, I will be buying some new monitors after building the computer. I haven't looked into it that much but I will prob get a 1440p 144Hz Monitor (idk if that will be a could choice)

Thank you for taking your time to read this as a normal thread, "says budget, show current Idea then let everyone help" however just wanted you guys to see my view of things and hopefully you can help me learn along the way.
(Wrote this at like 3 am sorry for awful writing etc).

Will post my build after a decent amount of people have commented on their opinion/view. 
Thanks again :).

Aorus x570 elite has bios related issues.

I'll make a list for you..

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CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TBWD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

CaseFractal Design Meshify C

PSUSuper Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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There you go, black and white build...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£299.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£179.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£154.98 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£84.39 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Toshiba P300 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£63.76 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (£389.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£91.09 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£64.97 @ Laptops Direct) 
Total: £1329.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-05 13:08 BST+0100

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CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TBWD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

CaseFractal Design Meshify C

PSUSuper Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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35 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

There you go, black and white build...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£299.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£179.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£154.98 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£84.39 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Toshiba P300 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£63.76 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (£389.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£91.09 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£64.97 @ Laptops Direct) 
Total: £1329.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-05 13:08 BST+0100

Hello, thank you for your build suggestion & it looks very good, however, I don't think I will be needing 32 GB of ram since I only do a very light amount work productivity on my computer since I have my laptop. So I could get away with only 16 GB ram and save some money, then when it comes to the storage I already have my ssds and hdds so I can also save some money there as well (Much appreciated tho'). 
I do stream sometimes but apart from that I mostly just do some editing along with a lot of gaming so this build will be classed as a "Gaming Pc".

So with this in mind, could I upgrade some other parts within the system like the GPU and also PSU so in the future when I want to upgrade I don't have to worry about getting a new PSU, however, I have lost it when it came to the new "Super Series" of GPUs and haven't really looked into them that much.
I have also look into the mobo issues and I have discovered some of the issues people of experienced, so instead of that mobo like you said I could go for the x570-P or could I go for something like the Asus Tuf Gaming x570 Plus: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/whMTwP/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus
or does this mobo also have issues, because by what I have seen it looks like an all-round good mobo?

However, at the end of the day, you are the expert here so if you do change somethings thanks in advance and then I will check with some other people to make sure it is all good (Like to get more than one opinion).

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If that's the case then something like this would be way better...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£299.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£179.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£74.94 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card  (£689.98 @ Box Limited) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case  (£58.97 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£64.97 @ Laptops Direct) 
Total: £1368.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-05 14:55 BST+0100

SSD TIER LIST

 

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TBWD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

CaseFractal Design Meshify C

PSUSuper Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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Use the stock cpu cooler. It will do a decent job at stock settings and incorporates a bit of bling. One can always add a better cooler later if one wants to overclock or the environment requires it.

 

MSI is making very good motherboards these days. I'm suggesting a decent mid-range board with looks that should blend into the case color scheme.

 

The OP indicates no need for storage. On an X570 motherboard it would be nice to include a PCIe 4.0 NVMe drive. Just saying ?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£299.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£191.36 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£96.43 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card  (£497.40 @ Alza) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-06 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£83.46 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£79.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Total: £1247.64
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80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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On 8/5/2019 at 3:43 PM, brob said:

Use the stock cpu cooler. It will do a decent job at stock settings and incorporates a bit of bling. One can always add a better cooler later if one wants to overclock or the environment requires it.

 

MSI is making very good motherboards these days. I'm suggesting a decent mid-range board with looks that should blend into the case color scheme.

 

The OP indicates no need for storage. On an X570 motherboard it would be nice to include a PCIe 4.0 NVMe drive. Just saying ?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£299.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£191.36 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£96.43 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card  (£497.40 @ Alza) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-06 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£83.46 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£79.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Total: £1247.64
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Hi, really happy with this build (Sorry for long response).

The only thing I wanted to know was how good the motherboard is because I am searching it up and I am unable to find any reviews on it.
I will prob starting buyings things nw as well, however, just want to know if the mobo is the best option I can go for at my budget; You have picked this mobo and you are more than an expert to me so I trust your opinion on it.

I will also be using ethernet and not Wi-Fi however if this motherboard is good for the price etc that will be fin.

Thanks for all your well wish me luck building it :).

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There is a surprising lack of reviews on the new X570 motherboards. This may be partly due to how similar the various boards are at any given price point. Very difficult to distinguish between various offerings.

 

The MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi is a mid-range board. A good feature set with decent but not necessarily top-of-the line controllers. You should not be disappointed by the quality of the motherboard.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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2 minutes ago, brob said:

There is a surprising lack of reviews on the new X570 motherboards. This may be partly due to how similar the various boards are at any given price point. Very difficult to distinguish between various offerings.

 

The MPG X570 Gaming Edge WiFi is a mid-range board. A good feature set with decent but not necessarily top-of-the line controllers. You should not be disappointed by the quality of the motherboard.

Okay thank you for all your help, I think this will be the final build and I will start buying in the next few days.

I will solve the forum soon.

Thank You :)

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