5700xt variants

[Daniel Smith]

Hey guys, what is the difference between these cards? Is it that some have different fans and stuff?? If so which would be the best to use. I’m using a 3900x with it 

[tarfeef101]

All of these are "reference cards". What that means is they all use the same cooler that AMD designed, except each brand stuck them into their own box and will handle the warranty themselves. They are functionally identical. 

Also, they're not the best idea. If you can wait, wait for August, when AMD has said that third-party designs (different fans and stuff) should be available. These versions will likely provide much better cooling, and you'll overall get a better experience.

[Jurrunio]

Those without price tags are the best because they are custom cooler cards (maybe custom PCB as well, tho not a big deal). Blowers suck.

[Daniel Smith]

5 minutes ago, tarfeef101 said:

All of these are "reference cards". What that means is they all use the same cooler that AMD designed, except each brand stuck them into their own box and will handle the warranty themselves. They are functionally identical. 

Also, they're not the best idea. If you can wait, wait for August, when AMD has said that third-party designs (different fans and stuff) should be available. These versions will likely provide much better cooling, and you'll overall get a better experience.

Okay do you know when abouts I’m august? And will these be more expensive than the reference cards? 

[Gil]

1 minute ago, tarfeef101 said:

All of these are "reference cards". What that means is they all use the same cooler that AMD designed, except each brand stuck them into their own box and will handle the warranty themselves. They are functionally identical. 

Also, they're not the best idea. If you can wait, wait for August, when AMD has said that third-party designs (different fans and stuff) should be available. These versions will likely provide much better cooling, and you'll overall get a better experience.

I don't see how I could have a better experience than I'm having with my 5700 xt. With the fan set to 50% it maxed out at 71C playing The Division 2 for 3 hours and I cannot hear it over my air conditioner.

[tarfeef101]

1 minute ago, Daniel Smith said:

Okay do you know when abouts I’m august? And will these be more expensive than the reference cards? 

Nobody (who isn't breaking an NDA) knows. 

Usually, there will be at least some that are the same price. Then, there will be ones that are more expensive, depending on the features they offer. For mid-range cards, spending an extra 0-20 bucks is usually a good investment for a better cooling, maybe some nice lighting, etc. There are cards that are like, 50+ dollars too, but those are generally providing creature comforts like super fancy lighting, metal backplates, and custom PCB designs which while nice, aren't really needed, and at this price point, you would be better off saving that $$ to get an actual different GPU entirely.

[tarfeef101]

1 minute ago, Gil said:

I don't see how I could have a better experience than I'm having with my 5700 xt. With the fan set to 50% it maxed out at 71C playing The Division 2 for 3 hours and I cannot hear it over my air conditioner.

Congratulations. Look at reviews. Look at mods people have done putting water blocks and other air coolers onto their cards. Everyone sees reductions in noise, most see performance headroom as well. 

Heck, Gamers Nexus mounted the cooler with more force and saw like 10 degrees of improvement. 


Your personal opinion of it not beeing to loud, and also not mentioning what clock speeds you're attaining doesn't change those facts.

[Daniel Smith]

9 minutes ago, tarfeef101 said:

Nobody (who isn't breaking an NDA) knows. 

Usually, there will be at least some that are the same price. Then, there will be ones that are more expensive, depending on the features they offer. For mid-range cards, spending an extra 0-20 bucks is usually a good investment for a better cooling, maybe some nice lighting, etc. There are cards that are like, 50+ dollars too, but those are generally providing creature comforts like super fancy lighting, metal backplates, and custom PCB designs which while nice, aren't really needed, and at this price point, you would be better off saving that $$ to get an actual different GPU entirely.

I’m pretty set on this gpu. It beats the 2060 super and is cheaper and they are direct competitors. May just get the stock one because I’ll be adding in fans to the pc anyway 

[tarfeef101]

4 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

I’m pretty set on this gpu. It beats the 2060 super and is cheaper and they are direct competitors. May just get the stock one because I’ll be adding in fans to the pc anyway 

I'm sure it'll be sufficient, if you cannot wait. You can always do what some people online have done (e.g. buy an old/broken 280x/290x/380x/390x and replace the cooler with one of those), re-mount the existing cooler with more mounting pressure (like Gamers Nexus, who has a video on this), or just throw fans at the problem. Or deal with slightly higher noise and/or lower clocks. 

That's all up to you. Now that you know what's possible, you simply have to decide what is worth it to you.

[Gil]

1 minute ago, Daniel Smith said:

I’m pretty set on this gpu. It beats the 2060 super and is cheaper and they are direct competitors. May just get the stock one because I’ll be adding in fans to the pc anyway 

There is nothing wrong with the stock cooler. I'm getting 1800+ MHz with the fan set at 50% and can't hear it over the normal background noise of living in the real world. I'm sure in a sound studio it's loud, but the ambient background in my bedroom is 50 db when my air conditioner is running and these "reviews" claiming it's too loud say the fan noise measures at 44 db.

[Daniel Smith]

6 minutes ago, tarfeef101 said:

I'm sure it'll be sufficient, if you cannot wait. You can always do what some people online have done (e.g. buy an old/broken 280x/290x/380x/390x and replace the cooler with one of those), re-mount the existing cooler with more mounting pressure (like Gamers Nexus, who has a video on this), or just throw fans at the problem. Or deal with slightly higher noise and/or lower clocks. 

That's all up to you. Now that you know what's possible, you simply have to decide what is worth it to you.

Cheers dude, think I’ll justxthrow some fans st it haha 

[Daniel Smith]

6 minutes ago, Gil said:

There is nothing wrong with the stock cooler. I'm getting 1800+ MHz with the fan set at 50% and can't hear it over the normal background noise of living in the real world. I'm sure in a sound studio it's loud, but the ambient background in my bedroom is 50 db when my air conditioner is running and these "reviews" claiming it's too loud say the fan noise measures at 44 db.

Good to know thanks 

[tarfeef101]

1 minute ago, Daniel Smith said:

Good to know thanks 

 

1 minute ago, Daniel Smith said:

Cheers dude, think I’ll justxthrow some fans st it haha 

 

Just make sure you set your expectations right. Fans can only help a blower cooler so much, just due to the nature of how it sucks air in. They're always gonna be louder than the third party open designs. 

If your ambient is as loud as that other guy's, yeah you probably won't notice. I can say my houses/apartments aren't that loud, but that's something only you know, and only you know if you care about.

[Master Disaster]

12 minutes ago, Gil said:

There is nothing wrong with the stock cooler. I'm getting 1800+ MHz with the fan set at 50% and can't hear it over the normal background noise of living in the real world. I'm sure in a sound studio it's loud, but the ambient background in my bedroom is 50 db when my air conditioner is running and these "reviews" claiming it's too loud say the fan noise measures at 44 db.

The thing is, reviewers review many cards, it's kind of their job. You only have the one card and nothing to compare it too.

 

It being within your tolerance levels is fine, but that doesn't mean it's not hot and loud.

[Gil]

8 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

The thing is, reviewers review many cards, it's kind of their job. You only have the one card and nothing to compare it too.

 

It being within your tolerance levels is fine, but that doesn't mean it's not hot and loud.

 

I've been pc gaming since I was a kid and I'm now 34 years old. I have had many gpu's over the years to compare it to. I've had cards that ran well over 90C and actually sounded like hair dyers. Cards that would literally burn you if you touched them. This thing runs about the same temps as the rx 580 I just replaced, and if I put my ear by the case it is definitely louder, but it is not loud.

 

These "reviewers" are always using extremes because nobody will watch them if they keep saying everything is just what it's supposed to be. The reference cooler is fine for most people. If i was trying to squeeze every last bit of performance out of my pc I'd want a better cooler, but I'd understand I'm spending more money for a negligible performance difference. That would be for fun. If somebody wants a really good card for $400, this is a really good card for $400.

 

Everything stock with fan set to 50% only got to 66C in Timespy and it's apparently running at 1941 MHz, 36 MHz over the advertised boost clock.