Ryzen 7 2700x vs Ryzen 5 3600 (worth the extra 2 cores)

[Jordan_C21]

So Im pretty sure the 3600 outperforms the 2700x in most places except it has 2 more cores. I read somewhere that 8 core 16 thread cpus are most likely going to be better for longevity mainly because the new consoles will have 8 core 16 thread therefore game devs working with 8 core 16 thread more, or maybe even springing for the 3700x for the 8 cores. Basically is what I read just crap or is that really something to look into

[CPUguy101]

For a pure gaming build get a 3600 however if you are using your PC for mainly productivity get the 2700X. 

[CPUguy101]

Or better yet get the 2700 if you can find it for $150

[Princess Luna]

If all you'll do is game, grab the 3600.

[Tom H]

8 minutes ago, Jordan_C21 said:

So Im pretty sure the 3600 outperforms the 2700x in most places except it has 2 more cores. I read somewhere that 8 core 16 thread cpus are most likely going to be better for longevity mainly because the new consoles will have 8 core 16 thread therefore game devs working with 8 core 16 thread more, or maybe even springing for the 3700x for the 8 cores. Basically is what I read just crap or is that really something to look into

you are correct. The new gen playstation 5 is being powered with 8c/16t ryzen cpus and navi graphics. It is inevitable that the game engines that are being developed now will be more thread efficient.

 

However, if I had to pick between 3600 or 2700x, I would take the 3600. It is just so much better. I would go with the 3700x if you are not going to upgrade for a very long time.

[Jordan_C21]

13 minutes ago, SMBGUY said:

Or better yet get the 2700 if you can find it for $150

its 150 on amazon and newegg rn 

[CPUguy101]

Just now, Jordan_C21 said:

its 150 on amazon and newegg rn 

For that price its hard to pass though a 3600 would get higher FPS the 2700 non x version is just a incredible deal right now

 

Please keep in mind if you game at 1440P or higher or if you own a RTX 2060 Super or lower you won't notice much of a difference anyways between these CPU's

[Jordan_C21]

4 minutes ago, Tom H said:

you are correct. The new gen playstation 5 is being powered with 8c/16t ryzen cpus and navi graphics. It is inevitable that the game engines that are being developed now will be more thread efficient.

 

However, if I had to pick between 3600 or 2700x, I would take the 3600. It is just so much better. I would go with the 3700x if you are not going to upgrade for a very long time.

im building the pc over the course of a few months so I could always get the cpu last yanno. From the responses ive kinda changed my mind, now im just wondering as a 16 year old who is about to start working , I dont have any bills really, and my amazing parents have a car lined up for me to use, but of course im saving up money in general, but with those circumstances wondering if i should invest in the 8 core over the 6 core when it comes to 1080 144hz gaming, and im taking classes for graphic design and stuff.

[Jordan_C21]

1 minute ago, SMBGUY said:

For that price its hard to pass though a 3600 would get higher FPS the 2700 non x version is just a incredible deal right now

 

Please keep in mind if you game at 1440P or higher or if you own a RTX 2060 Super or lower you won't notice much of a difference anyways between these CPU's

going for 1080 144hz, not 1440p

[CPUguy101]

1 minute ago, Jordan_C21 said:

going for 1080 144hz, not 1440p

Get the 3700x if you can afford it, should easily last 3 years in the PC market and next gen consoles are going to use 8 cores and 16 threads and be based on the same architecture 

[Tom H]

2 minutes ago, Jordan_C21 said:

im building the pc over the course of a few months so I could always get the cpu last yanno. From the responses ive kinda changed my mind, now im just wondering as a 16 year old who is about to start working , I dont have any bills really, and my amazing parents have a car lined up for me to use, but of course im saving up money in general, but with those circumstances wondering if i should invest in the 8 core over the 6 core when it comes to 1080 144hz gaming, and im taking classes for graphic design and stuff.

if you're a student, i'd say look at your budget. You can't really go wrong with the 3600. With the savings on the 3600, upgrade the graphics card. You are going to get more gaming bang from the buck if you get a better graphics card

 

My wife uses a lot of photoshop on her 3600x and it runs very well.

[Jordan_C21]

6 minutes ago, Tom H said:

if you're a student, i'd say look at your budget. You can't really go wrong with the 3600. With the savings on the 3600, upgrade the graphics card. You are going to get more gaming bang from the buck if you get a better graphics card

 

My wife uses a lot of photoshop on her 3600x and it runs very well.

Well im a student BUT, my parents are contributing $500-600, once again yes a blessing. So id have the part time income saving and that amount of money to work with. Ive heard to spend about half of your entire build on the gpu, so im thinking 400-500 on a gpu? since its like a 1000$ build basically

[Jordan_C21]

11 minutes ago, SMBGUY said:

Get the 3700x if you can afford it, should easily last 3 years in the PC market and next gen consoles are going to use 8 cores and 16 threads and be based on the same architecture 

quick question, is 3 years for a 300$ cpu good? ive never been too sure when it comes to longevity so I should do research on that just for future reference. I know by then am5 will be out and I could well just save money over the 3 years for a new one yanno

[Tom H]

3 minutes ago, Jordan_C21 said:

Well im a student BUT, my parents are contributing $500-600, once again yes a blessing. So id have the part time income saving and that amount of money to work with. Ive heard to spend about half of your entire build on the gpu, so im thinking 400-500 on a gpu? since its like a 1000$ build basically

$1000 build? Do you need to get everything from scratch like case, power supply etc?

 

Don't even look at the 3700x because I don't think it makes your budget. If you go 3700x, you'll probably have to upgrade to x570 motherboard which increases the costs. The 3600 can go into a last gen B450 motherboard without losing any performance. This saves a lot of money.

 

if you're going to spend $500 on gpu: 2070 super

if you're going to spend $400 on gpu: 5700xt (this is a fantastic value at this price)

[CPUguy101]

17 minutes ago, Jordan_C21 said:

quick question, is 3 years for a 300$ cpu good? ive never been too sure when it comes to longevity so I should do research on that just for future reference. I know by then am5 will be out and I could well just save money over the 3 years for a new one yanno

Exactly i tend to think that after 3 years even the top end chips start to fall behind but most likely you will see great performance for even longer the 4790K came out in 2014! Yet I would argue that the 4790K is still a great processor for GPU's around a GTX 2060 Super or lower. By now I would be wanting to replace such a CPU with a newer product. 

 

 

[CPUguy101]

14 minutes ago, Tom H said:

$1000 build? Do you need to get everything from scratch like case, power supply etc?

 

Don't even look at the 3700x because I don't think it makes your budget. If you go 3700x, you'll probably have to upgrade to x570 motherboard which increases the costs. The 3600 can go into a last gen B450 motherboard without losing any performance. This saves a lot of money.

 

if you're going to spend $500 on gpu: 2070 super

if you're going to spend $400 on gpu: 5700xt (this is a fantastic value at this price)

3700X is a 65 watt chip and science studio showed it working perfect in a B350 board. 

[Tom H]

12 minutes ago, SMBGUY said:

Exactly i tend to think that after 3 years even the top end chips start to fall behind but most likely you will see great performance for even longer the 4790K came out in 2014! Yet I would argue that the 4790K is still a great processor for GPU's around a GTX 2060 Super or lower. By now I would be wanting to replace such a CPU with a newer product. 

 

 

the core i7's from that generation still work good for gaming, especially if you have them overclocked to 4.4ghz or higher. 

 

11 minutes ago, SMBGUY said:

3700X is a 65 watt chip and science studio showed it working perfect in a B350 board. 

it may work perfect but you may not get the same performance on a b350. AMD has stated that you don't lose performance in ryzen 3000 with b450/x470/x570. The reviewers have verified this too

[Jordan_C21]

47 minutes ago, Tom H said:

$1000 build? Do you need to get everything from scratch like case, power supply etc?

 

Don't even look at the 3700x because I don't think it makes your budget. If you go 3700x, you'll probably have to upgrade to x570 motherboard which increases the costs. The 3600 can go into a last gen B450 motherboard without losing any performance. This saves a lot of money.

 

if you're going to spend $500 on gpu: 2070 super

if you're going to spend $400 on gpu: 5700xt (this is a fantastic value at this price)

yes pretty much from scratch nothing is really reusable in my build lol. Today I ordered a 750w 80+ silver PSU (corsair vengeance) for $65 and $10 rebate to 55, ik 750 is overkill but the 650 sold out and it was only $10 more and still a better deal then other PSU deals so idk, plus a PSU is stable in terms of how much wattage you need its not like a gpu so i got that first on sale yanno. So yeah, Ive always kinda looked at the 3600 as the CPU im going to get although I just wondered about the 6 cores being an issue

[Jordan_C21]

51 minutes ago, Tom H said:

$1000 build? Do you need to get everything from scratch like case, power supply etc?

 

Don't even look at the 3700x because I don't think it makes your budget. If you go 3700x, you'll probably have to upgrade to x570 motherboard which increases the costs. The 3600 can go into a last gen B450 motherboard without losing any performance. This saves a lot of money.

 

if you're going to spend $500 on gpu: 2070 super

if you're going to spend $400 on gpu: 5700xt (this is a fantastic value at this price)

i could always save more money for a lil while or not of its worth it it just depends

[HephMiner]

On 7/16/2019 at 10:50 AM, CPUguy101 said:

For a pure gaming build get a 3600 however if you are using your PC for mainly productivity get the 2700X. 

Define productivity