mobo and GPu

[truckerlenny]

ok so im thinking about going from a 6700 to a 9700k but i know the current mobo i have doesnt support 9th gen and the board i want doesnt support 6th gen. so i need to do mobo and cpu same time. what about gpu compatibility i have a gtx680ti currently will it work (i know it will be bottle necked) but it will be replaced at a later date. i am replacing parts part by part

[Jurrunio]

680Ti doesn't exist, we only have 660Ti and 680.

 

But why 9700k? Quite hard to justify the higher price compared to 3700X for how they perform.

[truckerlenny]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

680Ti doesn't exist, we only have 660Ti and 680.

  

But why 9700k? Quite hard to justify the higher price compared to 3700X for how they perform.

sorry 680. why 9700k because while the 3700x is cheaper the mobo tends to be quite more expensive than a intel compatible board. making it more expensive. for same performance. not to mention then i would probably have to change my ram cause i know how amd doesnt like the 2133 ram if its not amd compatible

[Chaftalie]

with the 3700X you can use a cheaper X470 or B450 Board and with some of those you will even get pcie 4.0

also 2133 ram is well in spec with 3 Gen Ryzen Chips. (it would be even better to have faster RAM for added performance, maximum 3600)

[truckerlenny]

5 minutes ago, truckerlenny said:

sorry 680. why 9700k because while the 3700x is cheaper the mobo tends to be quite more expensive than a intel compatible board. making it more expensive. for same performance. not to mention then i would probably have to change my ram cause i know how amd doesnt like the 2133 ram if its not amd compatible

so looking at pricing here in canada a 9700k is about 509.00 and a asus gaming tuf z 390 board is about 225.00. a 3700x is about 615, and 200 for the board. so intel is cheaper. plus i wouldnt have to change ram right away

[truckerlenny]

1 minute ago, Chaftalie said:

with the 3700X you can use a cheaper X470 or B450 Board and with some of those you will even get pcie 4.0

 also 2133 ram is well in spec with 3 Gen Ryzen Chips. (it would be even better to have faster RAM for added performance, maximum 3600)

once again i am on a budget. piece by piece. i was looking at asus tuf gaming series . the z390 and the x570 both because they have wifi. and sometimes i need wifi cause i dont have access to a ethernet cable always. so i would be saving about 60 bucks canadian. plus while the 2133 might be in spec from my knowledge amd is quite particular and it need to be amd compatible ram

[truckerlenny]

4 minutes ago, Chaftalie said:

with the 3700X you can use a cheaper X470 or B450 Board and with some of those you will even get pcie 4.0

also 2133 ram is well in spec with 3 Gen Ryzen Chips. (it would be even better to have faster RAM for added performance, maximum 3600)

second my question is not about whether i can get a different cpu or board it is whether my current gpu would work in a new 9700k and asus tuff gaming z390 board

[Chaftalie]

it will bottleneck the CPU, but because its PCIe it will work with any new motherboard, also Z390

[truckerlenny]

1 minute ago, Chaftalie said:

it will bottleneck the CPU, but because its PCIe it will work with any new motherboard, also Z390

i am well aware it will bottle neck the cpu. i have a grand which will only let me do the cpu and mobo today. i will be replacing the gpu later in a month or so. but i am horrible for saving so i know if i keep the money i will spend it on other crap i dont need

[MeatFeastMan]

19 minutes ago, truckerlenny said:

so looking at pricing here in canada a 9700k is about 509.00 and a asus gaming tuf z 390 board is about 225.00. a 3700x is about 615, and 200 for the board. so intel is cheaper. plus i wouldnt have to change ram right away

I beg to differ.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$459.99 @ Memory Express
Motherboard	MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$129.99 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$589.98
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-15 12:54 EDT-0400

 

[truckerlenny]

Just now, MeatFeastMan said:

I beg to differ.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$459.99 @ Memory Express
Motherboard	MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$129.99 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$589.98
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-15 12:54 EDT-0400

 

once again i want to use the asus gaming tuf series boards and the x470 version does not have wifi built in. and the 570 does. but the z390 does have wifi.

second i dont order from memory express. and im not sure if you can read i wasnt asking your opinion on my mobo and cpu choice i was asking if my old gpu would with with a new mobo and cpu

[celerystruct]

1 hour ago, truckerlenny said:

so looking at pricing here in canada a 9700k is about 509.00 and a asus gaming tuf z 390 board is about 225.00. a 3700x is about 615, and 200 for the board. so intel is cheaper. plus i wouldnt have to change ram right away

Did you actually click on the listings to see which vendors are selling it for how much?

 

https://www.amazon.ca/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-Processors/dp/B07SXMZLPK/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=ryzen+3700x&qid=1563215301&s=electronics&sr=1-2

 

Cause Amazon Ca is selling ti for $460

 

The only one selling it for 615 is Canada deal outlet

[truckerlenny]

On 7/15/2019 at 2:30 PM, celerystruct said:

Did you actually click on the listings to see which vendors are selling it for how much?

 

https://www.amazon.ca/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-Processors/dp/B07SXMZLPK/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=ryzen+3700x&qid=1563215301&s=electronics&sr=1-2

 

Cause Amazon Ca is selling ti for $460

 

The only one selling it for 615 is Canada deal outlet

and once again my question was not about which mobo or cpu i should get my question was very specific in asking is my old gpu will work with a new mobo

[celerystruct]

5 hours ago, truckerlenny said:

and once again my question was not about which mobo or cpu i should get my question was very specific in asking is my old gpu will work with a new mobo

use pcpartspicker then

[truckerlenny]

37 minutes ago, celerystruct said:

use pcpartspicker then

that does not answer all question

[celerystruct]

12 hours ago, truckerlenny said:

that does not answer all question

You aren't asking which mobo to get.

You aren't asking which cpu to get.

 

18 hours ago, truckerlenny said:

my question was very specific in asking is my old gpu will work with a new mobo

The quote above is your question, supposedly, and if so then pcpartspicker is sufficient.

[Tom H]

On 7/15/2019 at 12:23 PM, truckerlenny said:

ok so im thinking about going from a 6700 to a 9700k but i know the current mobo i have doesnt support 9th gen and the board i want doesnt support 6th gen. so i need to do mobo and cpu same time. what about gpu compatibility i have a gtx680ti currently will it work (i know it will be bottle necked) but it will be replaced at a later date. i am replacing parts part by part

your gtx 680 will work in a modern motherboard yes. PCIE 3.0 is backward compatible to 2.0 and 1.0

 

I know others have suggested going with the ryzen but why 9700K? You have an ancient gtx 680, so you can't a gamer. If you are someone who uses a computer for productivity, cores and threads is what you want. A 9700k is an 8 core non threaded cpu that gets owned by hyperthreaded CPUs...even last gen ryzens like the $119 2700x will smoke intel non threaded cpus in productivity.

 

If you're just a casual 75% surfing/email type user, 9700k still doesn't make sense

 

If you're buying an intel cpu for gaming and are on a tight bidget, a 9600k makes more sense

[Tom H]

Just now, Tom H said:

your gtx 680 will work in a modern motherboard yes. PCIE 3.0 is backward compatible to 2.0 and 1.0

 

I know others have suggested going with the ryzen but why 9700K? You have an ancient gtx 680, so you can't be a gamer. If you are someone who uses a computer for productivity, cores and threads is what you want. A 9700k is an 8 core non threaded cpu that gets owned by hyperthreaded CPUs...even last gen ryzens like the $119 2700x will smoke intel non threaded cpus in productivity.

 

If you're just a casual 75% surfing/email type user, 9700k still doesn't make sense

 

If you're buying an intel cpu for gaming and are on a tight bidget, a 9600k makes more sense

 

[AvogadrosDog]

On 7/15/2019 at 5:37 PM, truckerlenny said:

once again i am on a budget. piece by piece. i was looking at asus tuf gaming series . the z390 and the x570 both because they have wifi. and sometimes i need wifi cause i dont have access to a ethernet cable always. so i would be saving about 60 bucks canadian. plus while the 2133 might be in spec from my knowledge amd is quite particular and it need to be amd compatible ram

This is not currently true, at least not with Ryzen. You seem to be misinformed.

 

Will your current GPU work with a Z370/H370/Z390/X570/X470/B450 boards? Yes it will and like @celerystruct stated, pcpartpicker.com will help inform you about what parts are compatible and will work, or don't work and why they won't. 

[truckerlenny]

On 7/17/2019 at 2:48 PM, Tom H said:

your gtx 680 will work in a modern motherboard yes. PCIE 3.0 is backward compatible to 2.0 and 1.0

 

I know others have suggested going with the ryzen but why 9700K? You have an ancient gtx 680, so you can't a gamer. If you are someone who uses a computer for productivity, cores and threads is what you want. A 9700k is an 8 core non threaded cpu that gets owned by hyperthreaded CPUs...even last gen ryzens like the $119 2700x will smoke intel non threaded cpus in productivity.

  

If you're just a casual 75% surfing/email type user, 9700k still doesn't make sense

 

If you're buying an intel cpu for gaming and are on a tight bidget, a 9600k makes more sense

actually i do like to game my computer is quite old and i like to upgrade to the best i can at the time of the upgrade, budget wise that means something of a 9700k range. i do have a ancient 680 and a ancient 6500 cpu which i wanna upgrade cpu and mobo now and in the future do the gpu to a 1660ti unless there are better options have not decided on a gpu quite yet. 

[truckerlenny]

On 7/17/2019 at 6:06 PM, AvogadrosDog said:

This is not currently true, at least not with Ryzen. You seem to be misinformed.

 

Will your current GPU work with a Z370/H370/Z390/X570/X470/B450 boards? Yes it will and like @celerystruct stated, pcpartpicker.com will help inform you about what parts are compatible and will work, or don't work and why they won't. 

im trying to decide whether i should upgrade gpu first or cpu and mobo. i have a gtx 680 and a asrock h170a mobo with a i5 6500 2 sticks of gskill 8 gb 2133 mhz ram. i have a 500 gb ssd and a 1 tb hdd put inside a brand new cooler master haf xb case so plenty of room for upgrades. 

[VEXICUS]

19 minutes ago, truckerlenny said:

im trying to decide whether i should upgrade gpu first or cpu and mobo. i have a gtx 680 and a asrock h170a mobo with a i5 6500 2 sticks of gskill 8 gb 2133 mhz ram. i have a 500 gb ssd and a 1 tb hdd put inside a brand new cooler master haf xb case so plenty of room for upgrades. 

There you go mate...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($449.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($264.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $713.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-23 11:32 EDT-0400

[truckerlenny]

10 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

There you go mate...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($449.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($264.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $713.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-23 11:32 EDT-0400

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-vs-Intel-Core-i7-9700K/4043vs4030

shows intel 9700k still 5% faster. while the 3700x is faster for multi threaded tasks most of those would be for workstation tasks which i dont do. i game and browse and watch videos. 

and while a 3700x is abit cheaper 713.99 for mobo and cpu. a 9700k and asus tuf gaming wifi board is only 733.02 which is just shy of 3% most expensive but 5 % faster in the tasks i need it for. 

so why should i go to AMD 

pci 4.0 which we have not even used the full speed of 3.0 if you are just putting in a gpu. 

[VEXICUS]

12 hours ago, truckerlenny said:

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-vs-Intel-Core-i7-9700K/4043vs4030

shows intel 9700k still 5% faster. while the 3700x is faster for multi threaded tasks most of those would be for workstation tasks which i dont do. i game and browse and watch videos. 

and while a 3700x is abit cheaper 713.99 for mobo and cpu. a 9700k and asus tuf gaming wifi board is only 733.02 which is just shy of 3% most expensive but 5 % faster in the tasks i need it for. 

so why should i go to AMD 

pci 4.0 which we have not even used the full speed of 3.0 if you are just putting in a gpu. 

At what resolution do you play your games at?

There might be a slight gap in the 1080p performance, but the gap closes/narrows as you push to 1440p/4k.

[truckerlenny]

i play @ 1080p