Best value AMD 3000 series CPU?

[Leot]

I'm currently trying to upgrade my cpu but I'm not sure which one is the best value under 400$. Any recommendation would be great thanks

[Origami Cactus]

3600, or 3700x.

 

[Leot]

Just now, Origami Cactus said:

3600, or 3700x.

 

Not recommending the 3600x?

[Jurrunio]

Just now, Leot said:

Not recommending the 3600x?

nope, it's just factory overclocked 3600 with a better stock cooler. Better binned dies seems to go to the higher core counts anyway

[Origami Cactus]

Just now, Leot said:

Not recommending the 3600x?

You asked best value, that is what you got.

3600 and 3600x are both 6c/12, the only difference is that the 3600x is better binned. It is not a bad chip in any means, so if you like it go for it.

[Leot]

Just now, Origami Cactus said:

You asked best value, that is what you got.

3600 and 3600x are both 6c/12, the only difference is that the 3600x is better binned. It is not a bad chip in any means, so if you like it go for it.

Can you explain what better binned mean? 

[BubblyCharizard]

go 3700x

 

unless you cant afford it, the 3700x is a better value with a b450 or an x470 board, I wouldn't use an x570 with these chips as pice gen 4 isn't really needed, and is likely to be superseded by 5.0 before video cards need the bandwidth

[BubblyCharizard]

Just now, Leot said:

Can you explain what better binned mean?  

better die......would perform better for overclocking

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Leot said:

Can you explain what better binned mean? 

Basically, the best chips are cherrypicked off the production line, and are clocked higher.

 

3 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

You asked best value, that is what you got.

3600 and 3600x are both 6c/12, the only difference is that the 3600x is better binned. It is not a bad chip in any means, so if you like it go for it.

I've mostly heard that they aren't binned seperately, got a source?

[Leot]

Just now, BubblyCharizard said:

better die......would perform better for overclocking

Alright, thanks for the explaination

[Leot]

Just now, BubblyCharizard said:

go 3700x

 

unless you cant afford it, the 3700x is a better value with a b450 or an x470 board, I wouldn't use an x570 with these chips as pice gen 4 isn't really needed, and is likely to be superseded by 5.0 before video cards need the bandwidth

Thanks for the motherboard recommendation, I'll probably go for the x470 series board

[Origami Cactus]

3 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

I've mostly heard that they aren't binned seperately, got a source?

Absolutely not.

But you seem to know more than me.

Is 3800x better binned than the 3700x?

Or is my only choice to go with the 3900x if i want single thread performance? But it has 2 dies....

[BubblyCharizard]

3 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

Absolutely not.

But you seem to know more than me.

Is 3800x better binned than the 3700x? 

Or is my only choice to go with the 3900x if i want single thread performance? But it has 2 dies.... 

why would AMD not bin these?

 

they admitted that they did with threadripper in the last gen, not doing so would not get the most potential out of the silicon, and would make some people have bad experiences..

 

if a core on the 8 core CCX doesn't work properly, then they would need to disable it and another one to get the lower tier product (or lower the core speed) 

 

later on it more people choose the non x sku and they have an overstock on the better binned chips, they could drop them into the lower tier, but that would be pointless at launch....IIRC they did this with the 1000 series

[LienusLateTips]

39 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

Absolutely not.

But you seem to know more than me.

Is 3800x better binned than the 3700x?

Or is my only choice to go with the 3900x if i want single thread performance? But it has 2 dies....

I've heard from the Gamers Nexus/LTT/Hardware Unboxed reviews that 3600/3600X and 3700X/3800X aren't binned separately, so that's what I assume.