need new desktop for dad

[Yordlezeus]

hey guys my dad needs a new desktop. its just a normal desktop but I want him to have a nice experience using it and and I want it to be able to do anything so I don't go "we didn't get a graphics card so cant" sort of thing. Its gonna mostly be used for admin stuff though for the next year until he retires after that who knows. 

the isnt really a budget but the isnt need to spend all i can. 

if you could give me some recommendations for good parts id appreciate it.

this is my current idea of a build for him expect replace the cpu with the 3000 version. he will move his ssd and his hard drive from his old pc to his new one so those arnt needed.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	£181.99 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler	£51.65 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard	£90.68 @ Box Limited
Memory	Kingston - HyperX Predator 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	£81.98 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Gaming 8G Video Card	£167.99 @ SmartTeck.co.uk
Case	NZXT - H500i ATX Mid Tower Case	£96.98 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	Gigabyte - 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£95.46 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£766.73
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-06 23:08 BST+0100

 

[TheGlenlivet]

This is a monster of an ADMIN pc.  Is he ever going to game on it?  Use it for some workflow that requires a GPU?  Why not cut your budget in half and buy a 2200G?

[Yordlezeus]

1 minute ago, TheGlenlivet said:

This is a monster of an ADMIN pc.  Is he ever going to game on it?  Use it for some workflow that requires a GPU?  Why not cut your budget in half and buy a 2200G?

i want him to be able to use it for whatever he wants. he retires in a year and I dont have a clue what he will do with it after that and i dont wanna come up to him like "we cant do that cause i didnt plan for it a year ago" 

[TheGlenlivet]

Just now, Yordlezeus said:

i want him to be able to use it for whatever he wants. he retires in a year and I dont have a clue what he will do with it after that and i dont wanna come up to him like "we cant do that cause i didnt plan for it a year ago" 

I got ya, but why spend money on all that when you can upgrade the system later?

He can do work on a 2200G/b450 now and down the road, you can buy a new CPU/GPU when you know what the system will be used for.

[Aimi]

Yeah you can get a 2200G and it'll be fine for what "admin work" is, and if he finds himself doing anything mildly intensive on graphics then you can slap a mid range GPU in there and call it good.

[brob]

Stick with the 2700 or the 3xxx equivalent. There is no point in getting a low-end cpu for someone on the understanding that it can always be upgraded when needed. This approach demands that the end user get frustrated with low performance before things can change. Besides, I suspect those that think "admin work" is not cpu demanding have never worked with complex Excel spreadsheets commonly found in most offices.

 

I would suggest a different case and psu. You could save a bit by sticking with the stock cpu cooler. By all accounts it will do a decent job and allow a reasonable overclock.

 

You could go with the Nzxt H510 (non i) or, if you can't find it the H500 (also non i). The reviews I've read suggest that the "smarts" in the i versions do not really make a difference. The H510 has a USB Type-C port on the front panel. 

 

You might consider instead the Corsair 275R. Or, if budget permits the Fractal Design Meshify S2.

 

The build only needs a 550W psu. At the moment Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W is actually less expensive than the 550W version. Makes it an excellent deal. The RMx is a better psu than the G750H.

[Yordlezeus]

10 minutes ago, brob said:

Stick with the 2700 or the 3xxx equivalent. There is no point in getting a low-end cpu for someone on the understanding that it can always be upgraded when needed. This approach demands that the end user get frustrated with low performance before things can change. Besides, I suspect those that think "admin work" is not cpu demanding have never worked with complex Excel spreadsheets commonly found in most offices.

 

I would suggest a different case and psu. You could save a bit by sticking with the stock cpu cooler. By all accounts it will do a decent job and allow a reasonable overclock.

 

You could go with the Nzxt H510 (non i) or, if you can't find it the H500 (also non i). The reviews I've read suggest that the "smarts" in the i versions do not really make a difference. The H510 has a USB Type-C port on the front panel. 

 

You might consider instead the Corsair 275R. Or, if budget permits the Fractal Design Meshify S2.

 

The build only needs a 550W psu. At the moment Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W is actually less expensive than the 550W version. Makes it an excellent deal. The RMx is a better psu than the G750H.

thank you very much you sound really informed and I will look into your recommendations

[Yordlezeus]

15 minutes ago, brob said:

Stick with the 2700 or the 3xxx equivalent. There is no point in getting a low-end cpu for someone on the understanding that it can always be upgraded when needed. This approach demands that the end user get frustrated with low performance before things can change. Besides, I suspect those that think "admin work" is not cpu demanding have never worked with complex Excel spreadsheets commonly found in most offices.

 

I would suggest a different case and psu. You could save a bit by sticking with the stock cpu cooler. By all accounts it will do a decent job and allow a reasonable overclock.

 

You could go with the Nzxt H510 (non i) or, if you can't find it the H500 (also non i). The reviews I've read suggest that the "smarts" in the i versions do not really make a difference. The H510 has a USB Type-C port on the front panel. 

 

You might consider instead the Corsair 275R. Or, if budget permits the Fractal Design Meshify S2.

 

The build only needs a 550W psu. At the moment Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W is actually less expensive than the 550W version. Makes it an excellent deal. The RMx is a better psu than the G750H.

thank you for your advice I think this is a good fit.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	£181.99 @ Aria PC
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard	£90.68 @ Box Limited
Memory	Kingston - HyperX Predator 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	£81.93 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Gaming 8G Video Card	£167.99 @ SmartTeck.co.uk
Case	NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	£69.98 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£83.99 @ AWD-IT
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£676.56
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-06 23:58 BST+0100