New System?

[OneFlyer]

How does this prebuilt system look?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2BK6SM/ref=psdc_13896597011_t1_B077S27YLP?th=1

[GoldenLag]

Overpriced, not a great deal

[SpookyCitrus]

Overpriced just like most pre-builts. You could easily build that system yourself for probably $150 less or more.

[AlexanderG]

For the same amount of money I think you could assemble a better-speced system. I'll try and make a PCPartPicker list for you.

[SpookyCitrus]

Here's a PCpartpicker, this has 16GB of ram, a better GPU, and a better motherboard for future upgrades if you wanted to go for an unlocked i5 or the i7 as well as a 480GB Solid State Drive instead of that 1TB standard mechanical drive. However the GPU price is low because it is the used price, if you want a new one add $60. But you can find them used on Ebay all day at around $100 or less for good quality models.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor	$149.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler	$33.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - Z390 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$109.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$57.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Kingston - A400 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$49.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card	$100.00
Case	Phanteks - P300 ATX Mid Tower Case	$59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$88.24 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$650.08
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-24 11:52 EDT-0400

 

[AlexanderG]

Here is an AMD-based build for the same amount of money: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/F1PlayBG/saved/#view=VJc4nQ

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

Power Supply EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $88.24 @ Amazon

Not a great PSU......

3 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

Memory G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $57.99 @ Newegg

Why would you use such slow memmory? Memmory speed does matter.

4 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

Motherboard ASRock - Z390 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $109.99 @ Amazon

You could at least get a better mobo, or at least not overspend on a mobo you cant OC with due to locked CPU

5 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

CPU Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $149.99 @ Amazon

Falls into the non-ht trap and allready suffers from some minor stuttering in select titles. This will just get worse.

 

 

And that why this build shouldnt be bought. Also its bad value......

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, F1PlayBG said:

Here is an AMD-based build for the same amount of money: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/F1PlayBG/saved/#view=VJc4nQ

Bad value, one can do significantly better.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: MSI - B450M BAZOOKA V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.87 @ Amazon) 
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($62.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Team - MS30 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($51.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($48.98 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: R5 3600 ($200.00)
Total: $783.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-24 11:52 EDT-0400

 

 

The 3600 launches on the 7th, grab that instead and order a bootkit for free. The 200$ MSRP is accounted for. 

[AlexanderG]

10 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Bad value, one can do significantly better.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: MSI - B450M BAZOOKA V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.87 @ Amazon) 
Memory: GeIL - EVO SPEAR 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($62.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Team - MS30 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($51.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB Video Card  ($269.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($48.98 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Custom: R5 3600 ($200.00)
Total: $783.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-24 11:52 EDT-0400

 

 

The 3600 launches on the 7th, grab that instead and order a bootkit for free. The 200$ MSRP is accounted for. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$145.74 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard	MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$74.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$34.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$34.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Kingston - A400 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$19.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$77.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB Video Card	$159.99 @ Amazon
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$62.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$59.99
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$670.47
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-24 12:11 EDT-0400

I think this is better value, what do you think?

 

[SpookyCitrus]

22 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Not a great PSU......

Why would you use such slow memmory? Memmory speed does matter.

First off, I put this together to prove a point that the prebuilt OP listed is overpriced I did not tell OP to buy it nor did I say it was the best they could do, all of your points are valid and I agree with them except for two. I wouldn't recommend that OP get either build the one I linked or the pre-built, OP should wait for Zen 2 Ryzen or build a system using the Ryzen 5 2600.

 

The EVGA G3 550w is a quality budget power supply, 80+ Gold and fully modular for the price it's at is beyond fair in my opinion It's also a B-tier in the budget options of the PSU Tier List. I've used it in several builds and never had a problem.

 

2400mhz for a non-unlocked Intel CPU is more than sufficient anyone that's tested the difference between 2400mhz and 3000mhz ram with newer Intel processors for gaming especially locked CPUs knows that the performance difference is null. If OP plans on rendering or doing any sort of editing also, then 3000mhz would be recommended but a budget build for gaming with an i5-9400f, 2400mhz is perfectly fine. Or if it were a Ryzen system then I would recommend 3000mhz but it is not.

 

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, F1PlayBG said:

Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $77.99 @ Amazon

Overpriced.

3 minutes ago, F1PlayBG said:

Storage Kingston - A400 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $19.99 @

Why? There is allready an SSD....

4 minutes ago, F1PlayBG said:

Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $34.89 @ OutletPC Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $34.89 @ OutletPC

Why the slow memmory?

4 minutes ago, F1PlayBG said:

Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB Video Card $159.99 @ Amazon

About as bad value as it gets.

4 minutes ago, F1PlayBG said:

Power Supply Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $59.99

Not great PSU. Its not the CX550 which is better than the CXM.

5 minutes ago, F1PlayBG said:

Motherboard MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $74.99 @ Amazon

Really bad board....

 

In other words. No, its not better value, its bad value, like pretty bad.

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Wanted to put it in a spoiler to compress it, but mobile hates me

 

Lets not hijack @OneFlyer 's thread just to correct not good builds. 

 

Which reminds me @OneFlyer can you build yourself?

[AlexanderG]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Overpriced.

Why? There is allready an SSD....

Why the slow memmory?

About as bad value as it gets.

Not great PSU. Its not the CX550 which is better than the CXM.

Really bad board....

 

In other words. No, its not better value, its bad value, like pretty bad.

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Wanted to put it in a spoiler to compress it, but mobile hates me

 

Lets not hijack @OneFlyer 's thread just to correct not good builds. 

 

Which reminds me @OneFlyer can you build yourself?

I also forgot to say that this build isn't mine, I found it while browsing and didn't look through it.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, SpookyCitrus said:

The EVGA G3 550w is a quality budget power supply, 80+ Gold and fully modular for the price it's at is beyond fair in my opinion It's also a B-tier in the budget options of the PSU Tier List. I've used it in several builds and never had a problem

The PSU has issues. Its why its in B-tier. 

 

There is nothing budget about it, its 89$ for gods sake. 

 

Which reminds me to get the to change the name of the PSU tier list. As i feared, people missunderstand when you name something "budget".

3 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

. If OP plans on rendering or doing any sort of editing also than 3000mhz would be recommended but a budget build for gaming with an i5-9400f, 2400mhz is perfectly fine

The 9400f relies on memmory aswell ik gaming. According to benchmarking done to see what effect memory speeds has. Depending on the game it can significantly impact the overall framerate and 1% lows. This is to any modern CPU btw. Ryzen just likes memmory more than sandybridge derivatives in more workloads. 

 

7 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

First off, I put this together to prove a point that the prebuilt OP listed is overpriced I did not tell OP to buy it nor did I say it was the best they could do

You never stated it was a draft giving the impression its a build suggestion. Even going through suggesting used parts which is not something one does in a draft. 

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, F1PlayBG said:

I also forgot to say that this build isn't mine, I found it while browsing and didn't look through it.

Ok? Then why post it here?

[OneFlyer]

5 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

Which reminds me @OneFlyer can you build yourself?

See that is the problem with me trying to build my own system, I have never built one before and I am afraid I would forget something like operating system, wifi compatible board, or like a sound system, not to mention actually assembling it in the first place.

[GoldenLag]

7 hours ago, OneFlyer said:

See that is the problem with me trying to build my own system, I have never built one before and I am afraid I would forget something like operating system, wifi compatible board, or like a sound system, not to mention actually assembling it in the first place.

There are tutorials that take you through the process step by step. I can understand the hurdle of doing it yourself tho.

 

I would suggest doing it yourself if you have roughly 3 hours on hand. 

[VEXICUS]

13 hours ago, OneFlyer said:

How does this prebuilt system look?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N2BK6SM/ref=psdc_13896597011_t1_B077S27YLP?th=1

Build something like this instead....

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($145.74 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Sniper X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Gaming 4G  Video Card  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.90 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($47.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $533.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-25 01:33 EDT-0400