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[BleachedFur]

Xeon E5 1650 v2 4.4Ghz 1.35v

 

SLI GTX 1070 (SLI isn't dead, GFY)

 

48GB Kingston HyperX Fury LPDDR3 1866MHz CL11 (1.35v)

2x Crucial BX300 in RAID0 (OS)

ASUS P9X79 Deluxe

Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2 (All non-OS data like games and programs)

EVGA NEX 750 G1 Fully Modular Power Supply

Reflashed Gigabyte AORUS SLI HB Bridge (works with EVGA compatible programs now)

Creative Soundblaster X-Fi (onboard audio doesn't work)

2x 240mm radiators, 500L/H pump, 8x Apevia 1350RPM fans, some cheap Amazon waterblock from China, custom mixed fluid (it's safe, don't criticize me)

Cougar MX-330G

Keyboard is Corsair Strafe Cherry MX Blue

 

Mouse is Cougar 700M

CPU temps are 32c idle and 65c load after 24h Prime95

Average bench matches OC'd 8600K, top bench matches stock i7 8700

Yes I'm aware of the CPU bottleneck, I'll be going X299 someday

Edit: Yes I'm aware the bottom 1070 looks like it's starved for air. it isn't. Max temps while playing GPU-bound games is 72c. Perfectly normal for an air cooled 1070.

No, SLI is not dead, 83% of games support SLI with positive scaling. Don't ask me for proof, just go on YouTube and look up SLI benchmarks.

Any criticisms you have are invalid. System has been working perfectly and has been stable for 8 months. It does exactly what I need it to do, your personal preferences and needs do not apply to other people's builds.

[.Apex.]

Somehow that's faster than my 8700K at 4.6Ghz (according to synthetic benchmarks), that's pretty awesome

 

Edit: it's actually pretty close

[Firewrath9]

44 minutes ago, BleachedFur said:

Any criticisms you have are invalid. System has been working perfectly and has been stable for 8 months. It does exactly what I need it to do, your personal preferences and needs do not apply to other people's builds.

sheesh, thats a bit harsh, nice build, have you considered custom sleeved cables/extentions? they can be pretty cheap (i got mine for 30$, ive seen them start at 25$), that could help tidy up your build. 1.415v is a bit high, what are your temps, just wondering. The e5-1650 is a soldered chip, correct?

[BleachedFur]

2 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

sheesh, thats a bit harsh,

People on Reddit always try to put their two cents in on things they know nothing about and it pisses me off. Sure it's harsh, but it's also necessary.

 

2 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

have you considered custom sleeved cables/extentions?

Yes, and I'll order or make them when I need to. I'm also contemplating painting the case white since Cougar doesn't make one.
 

2 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

1.415v is a bit high, what are your temps, just wondering. The e5-1650 is a soldered chip, correct?

It's 1.435v, and temps are actually very good. My custom mix does well (another thing I'm tired of the a-holes on Reddit putting their useless two cents in about), I did post load temps in the original post.

 

Yes, the E5 1650 v2 is indeed soldered with Indium, so it's not impossible to delid. I've delidded Indium soldered LGA 1366 chips and have a working delidded X5650 and a working E5540 and a working delidded W5580. I also have a dime bag of Indium. It goes for about $25 an ounce.

[BleachedFur]

3 hours ago, _Syn_ said:

Somehow that's faster than my 8700K at 4.6Ghz (according to synthetic benchmarks), that's pretty awesome

 

Edit: it's actually pretty close

Your SSE test scoe is more than twice mine because you have AVX2, AVX512, FMA3, SSE 4.3, etc. Some games need AVX2 or the perform poorly compared to a CPU without them, that's where my E5 falls short. I'd raise the clock speed but 4.6 just isn't stable at a reasonable voltage. I'm gonna try for another 1650, hopefully I win the lottery. This one is a bad bin, I've seen them at 4.6 to 4.8GHz. My motherboard also is poor for OC, the ASUS Sabertooth and Maximus Hero boards are much better than the P9 series.

My physics, prime numbers, and floating point are higher though, and that speaks for the strength of the Ivy Bridge architecture.

I'm gonna be buying some 1080 FTW coolers off ebay as the thicker heat sinks are better for cooling and they also have the RGB header. My bottom card doesn't have one but the top one does. I can just flash the BIOS and the RGB tables and viola, red LEDs.

I already modified the firmware on the microchip inside the SLI bridge to work with EVGA Precision.

[Ravenbear]

6 hours ago, BleachedFur said:

No, SLI is not dead, 83% of games support SLI with positive scaling. Don't ask me for proof, just go on YouTube and look up SLI benchmarks.

Been saying this for a while but stopped because there is no changing the hate boys minds.  I am packing 2 2080s in NVlink and can run games like the Witcher 3 on Ultra at kick-ass FPS. So I sit back and enjoy my games and let the hate boys have moments in the sun, even if it is in their mind. 

[BleachedFur]

45 minutes ago, Ravenbear said:

let the hate boys have moments in the sun, even if it is in their mind. 

I've got two 1070s as you can see, and their total power is equal to a single 2080, as you can see from my Superposition bench. Not one game I own has poor SLI scaling. Most games I see a 25 to 80% increase in FPS. The biggest gain was with Skyrim, since it's a HEAVILY GPU bound game. CPU be sitting at 8% while both 1070s pegged at 60 to 100%.

 

On a single 1070 RealVision ENB was hard to run at a constant 60fps, now with both 1070s I never go below 60fps unless I'm on a loading screen or an area is loading in because of my slow 4TB HDD.

[.Apex.]

10 hours ago, BleachedFur said:

My physics, prime numbers, and floating point are higher though, and that speaks for the strength of the Ivy Bridge architecture.

I remember those were half the score when I was on Single Channel 3000mhz, possibly the reason yours are higher is because you have Quad Channel 1866, If that's the case then there's very little difference between Ivy Bridge and Coffee Lake, just some tiny IPC improvement on coffee lake's side

[BleachedFur]

1 hour ago, _Syn_ said:

Quad Channel 1866,

Gotta love quad channel :3

 

1 hour ago, _Syn_ said:

there's very little difference between Ivy Bridge and Coffee Lake, just some tiny IPC improvement on coffee lake's side

This is correct, in addition to some SSE additions. Intel has not done anything new or revolutionary regarding power consumption; my Xeon probably draws as much as your 8700K (although mine has a 130w TDP). MSI Afterburner reports idle consumption of 40W. Load consumption with Prime95 (unrealistic load) is about 115w.

[.Apex.]

48 minutes ago, BleachedFur said:

Load consumption with Prime95 (unrealistic load) is about 115w.

there's probably a power consumption difference, I can run 4.6Ghz at 1.16V (average chip), I don't think software power consumption values are accurate, and because of 14nm which is supposed to be more efficient and it has been refined even more compared to Skylake, though I have no clue what the real difference is

[BleachedFur]

32 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

there's probably a power consumption difference, I can run 4.6Ghz at 1.16V (average chip), I don't think software power consumption values are accurate, and because of 14nm which is supposed to be more efficient and it has been refined even more compared to Skylake, though I have no clue what the real difference is

I mean if I drop to 4.2 I can maintain stock voltage. But I think I just have a bad bin. I had a different 1650 v2 and a Sabertooth board a while ago, I got it stable at the same voltage but at 4.6. 

[Firewrath9]

17 hours ago, BleachedFur said:

I'm gonna be buying some 1080 FTW coolers off ebay as the thicker heat sinks are better for cooling and they also have the RGB header. My bottom card doesn't have one but the top one does. I can just flash the BIOS and the RGB tables and viola, red LEDs.

Doesn't a FTW card have a custom PCB, will the FTW fit on the ref on the ACX 3.0 & SC 1070 models, and the FTW is slightly longer as well.

[BleachedFur]

4 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

Doesn't a FTW card have a custom PCB,

No

 

4 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

will the FTW fit on the ref on the ACX 3.0 & SC 1070 models,

Yes

 

4 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

and the FTW is slightly longer as well.

that doesn't matter

 

No aftermarket cards are "reference". The heat sink on the 1080 FTW is indeed larger, and that's the point. Bigger heat sink. However the mounting holes are in the same place on the 1070 as well as 1080. This is why the hybrid kits work.

[Firewrath9]

15 hours ago, BleachedFur said:

No aftermarket cards are "reference". The heat sink on the 1080 FTW is indeed larger, and that's the point. Bigger heat sink. However the mounting holes are in the same place on the 1070 as well as 1080. This is why the hybrid kits work.

but the 1070 SC/ACX 3.0 uses a founder's edition PCB

https://forums.evga.com/EVGA-1070-SC-Founders-PCB-m2528711.aspx

1070/1080 FTW

also, the 1070/1080 have seperate FTW hybrid and SC/ACX/FE hybrid SKUs.

[BleachedFur]

8 hours ago, Firewrath9 said:

also, the 1070/1080 have seperate FTW hybrid and SC/ACX/FE hybrid SKUs.

Okay, since you're being stubborn, how about this: I've already done the mod in the past, I have a Dremel and Internet access, so nothing is past me.

[Firewrath9]

18 hours ago, BleachedFur said:

Okay, since you're being stubborn, how about this: I've already done the mod in the past, I have a Dremel and Internet access, so nothing is past me.

you could've said that you were going to mod it, instead of saying

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"No aftermarket cards are "reference". "

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However the mounting holes are in the same place on the 1070 as well as 1080. 

 

[Tristerin]

Awesome!  I too built an Aliexpress special (much cheaper there for the blocks, pumps, rads etc I went mixed metals, used antifreeze for liquid - I have the same pump/res its great) in an old HP Pro 6300 w/ i5 3470 and R7 260x GPU for the lulz.  Been running 2 weeks straight zero issues.

 

Love yours!

 

Spoiler

 

[BleachedFur]

6 hours ago, Tristerin said:

used antifreeze for liquid - I have the same pump/res its great

Do yourself a HUGE favor -  buy some distilled water from like Walgreens and toss like half the gallon into your loop. Temps will drop 5-15c. I'm using my own special mix (water, antifreeze, and some other special ingredients), and my temps were a lot better after distilling the antifreeze mix.

[Tristerin]

5 hours ago, BleachedFur said:

Do yourself a HUGE favor -  buy some distilled water from like Walgreens and toss like half the gallon into your loop. Temps will drop 5-15c. I'm using my own special mix (water, antifreeze, and some other special ingredients), and my temps were a lot better after distilling the antifreeze mix.

Im using 66% distilled battery water, balance antifreeze with corrosion inhibitors (and nothing can live in that environment, no biocide required) - I have a bad CPU mount (don't feel like tearing it down, as its for the lulz) and my temps are still beautiful   Prime 95 and Heaven running in tandem for 1 hour yields mid 50c on CPU and low/mid 40c on GPU

 

About to do a monster loop for fun on my Ryzen 7 1700...my 240mm AIO kills it...but why not lol

[BleachedFur]

2 hours ago, Tristerin said:

  Prime 95 and Heaven running in tandem for 1 hour yields mid 50c on CPU and low/mid 40c on GPU

Go into your BIOS and disable the iGPU, that's responsible for like 35% of the TDP.

 

2 hours ago, Tristerin said:

About to do a monster loop for fun on my Ryzen 7 1700...my 240mm AIO kills it...but why not lol

I have two 240mm rads, gonna add a 120mm in the rear cause why not.

 

If I cut the top part of the case I can slide in another 240mm, but I'd have like 2-3 inches of radiator coming out the back of my case.

[Sychic]

On 4/23/2019 at 2:43 AM, Ravenbear said:

Been saying this for a while but stopped because there is no changing the hate boys minds.  I am packing 2 2080s in NVlink and can run games like the Witcher 3 on Ultra at kick-ass FPS. So I sit back and enjoy my games and let the hate boys have moments in the sun, even if it is in their mind. 

Just gonna mention that NVLink is more like a way higher bandwidth SLI and it scales a lot better. Not really that same as 10 series SLI  

[CiBi]

Nice curtains

[BleachedFur]

2 hours ago, Sychic said:

Just gonna mention that NVLink is more like a way higher bandwidth SLI and it scales a lot better. Not really that same as 10 series SLI

This is one of the haters that @Ravenbear was talking about

 

My cards match even some of the best 2080s on the Superposition leaderboard for 1080p Extreme.

One card gets about 3500 to 4000, so it's near perfect scaling.

Please. Contain your erection.

[Sychic]

9 minutes ago, BleachedFur said:

This is one of the haters that @Ravenbear was talking about

 

My cards match even some of the best 2080s on the Superposition leaderboard for 1080p Extreme.

One card gets about 3500 to 4000, so it's near perfect scaling.

Please. Contain your erection.

I'm not saying that SLI is worse, just saying that NVLink was a pretty big imporovement. Also, these kinds of sythetic benchmarks do scale well but some games don't necessarily.

 

Honestly calm down, Just trying to point out that NVlink isn't really the same as SLI...

[BleachedFur]

1 minute ago, Sychic said:

games don't necessarily.

the games I play do, so I don't get why you have a problem with it.

 

SLI may not be worth the cost for maybe 5-10FPS to some people, but those 5-10FPS for others may mean the difference between playable and unplayable.

The reason I chose 1070s is that, even if SLI doesn't work, one card is still powerful enough to carry on by itself.

 

Doing SLI with something like EVGA's GTX 950 FTW is just stupid if you have games that don't support SLI. And yes, the 950 supports SLI.