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As the title says, I am looking at getting a 9820x or 9900x, but am also considering a 9800x or even a 9920x...

 

Wondering if more knowledgeable people have some input. I am wanting this to me my last cpu upgrade for awhile but the crazy prices are stopping me from pulling out my card and getting the 9920x. I have a E5-2695 v3 (totally not a ES) and after having way too much if an overclock on it I got some degradation so I put it back to stock and now its quite a bit slower and its too hard to game with it, but its what I expected to happen so oh well. 

 

For the mobo I think I am set on the asus x299 deluxe II, feel free to recommend any others but I really only want asus. 

 

Workstation wise I mostly use a program called pixinsight, which will take as much processing power you can throw at it, and a tiny bit of photoshop. Gaming is just things like assetto corsa and a bit of bf4. 

Main Computer: Intel 9900k, Asus Maximus XI Formula, Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 4x16GB 3000MHZ C15, EVGA GTX1070 Hybrid, Corsair HX850i, Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic, 26TB

2: Xeon 2695 V3, Asus x99-A II, Corsair Vengeance Pro 4x8GB 2666 C15, Corsair RX750

3: Dell R510 8-Bay, dual x5675, 16GB ECC, 8x600GB 15k SAS

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1 minute ago, SharkGTX said:

9900x and get 5ghz / 1.35V with watercooling

i doubt a 9900x will be able to do that.

8700K @ 5.2ghz 1.29V, 4x8 Rev.E @ 4040 13-20-20-39 1.7V.

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1 minute ago, alatron978 said:

i doubt a 9900x will be able to do that.

My can 5.1Ghz HT @ 1.31V 

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Just now, SharkGTX said:

My can 5.1Ghz HT @ 1.31V 

How hot?

 

8700K @ 5.2ghz 1.29V, 4x8 Rev.E @ 4040 13-20-20-39 1.7V.

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2 minutes ago, alatron978 said:

How hot?

 

I have extreme watercooling (my delta from water temp to room temp is less than 1C). 

70-71C at prime95

This is 5.2Ghz 1.35V

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Just now, SharkGTX said:

I have extreme watercooling (my delta from water temp to room temp is less than 1C). 

70-71C at prime95

Thats a very good chip :)

8700K @ 5.2ghz 1.29V, 4x8 Rev.E @ 4040 13-20-20-39 1.7V.

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Just now, alatron978 said:

Thats a very good chip :)

yes. but many chips can do 5.0 at 1.35-1.375

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1 minute ago, SharkGTX said:

yes. but many chips can do 5.0 at 1.35-1.375

im amazed at how cool that runs, my 8700K hits 80C with 1.2V in aida 64 fpu only, thats crazy how much better solder is. (28C ambient)

8700K @ 5.2ghz 1.29V, 4x8 Rev.E @ 4040 13-20-20-39 1.7V.

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Not sure how hard I would want to push any of them yet. I only have a 280mm aio right now. Been considering doing a custom loop but thats fairly expensive and I would need a new case. 

Main Computer: Intel 9900k, Asus Maximus XI Formula, Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 4x16GB 3000MHZ C15, EVGA GTX1070 Hybrid, Corsair HX850i, Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic, 26TB

2: Xeon 2695 V3, Asus x99-A II, Corsair Vengeance Pro 4x8GB 2666 C15, Corsair RX750

3: Dell R510 8-Bay, dual x5675, 16GB ECC, 8x600GB 15k SAS

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3 minutes ago, alatron978 said:

im amazed at how cool that runs, my 8700K hits 80C with 1.2V in aida 64 fpu only, thats crazy how much better solder is. (28C ambient)

look at my watercooling system:

3x TFC xChanger 360mm (60mm thick) rads

2x TFC MONSTA EXTREME Limited Edition

3x D5 Vario (max speed)

41x powerful fans

5.2L of water

1 gaint loop 

EK Rampage VI Extreme monoblock

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4 minutes ago, SharkGTX said:

My can 5.1Ghz HT @ 1.31V 

Stability criteria?

1 minute ago, SharkGTX said:

I have extreme watercooling (my delta from water temp to room temp is less than 1C). 

70-71C at prime95

This is 5.2Ghz 1.35V

Any AVX offset? Is this AVX (FMA3) enabled version of P95? If you want to make your hardware cry, there's an AVX-512 test version. I'd bet you'd have to use offset for that!

49 minutes ago, MEDDERX said:

Workstation wise I mostly use a program called pixinsight, which will take as much processing power you can throw at it

Ooh, astrophotographer? :) 

Main system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, Corsair Vengeance Pro 3200 3x 16GB 2R, RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut
Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible

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3 minutes ago, SharkGTX said:

look at my watercooling system:

3x TFC xChanger 360mm (60mm thick) rads

2x TFC MONSTA EXTREME Limited Edition

3x D5 Vario (max speed)

41x powerful fans

5.2L of water

1 gaint loop 

EK Rampage VI Extreme monoblock

Beats my nh-d15

8700K @ 5.2ghz 1.29V, 4x8 Rev.E @ 4040 13-20-20-39 1.7V.

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1 minute ago, porina said:

Stability criteria?

Any AVX offset? Is this AVX (FMA3) enabled version of P95? If you want to make your hardware cry, there's an AVX-512 test version. I'd bet you'd have to use offset for that!

Ooh, astrophotographer? :) 

Absolute stability! 24h of Prime95 without AVX. I dont need them

AVX?! No...  offset -10. AVX 512 offset -15

 

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Guys... 9900X CAN DO 5Ghz, But you need Extreme powerful water (1500+$ for sure) for that!!! But it can

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2 minutes ago, SharkGTX said:

Absolute stability! 24h of Prime95 without AVX. I dont need them

AVX?! No...  offset -10. AVX 512 offset -15

 

I can run 5.4ghz with an avx offset of 20 and get 60C in aida 64.

8700K @ 5.2ghz 1.29V, 4x8 Rev.E @ 4040 13-20-20-39 1.7V.

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Just now, alatron978 said:

I can run 5.4ghz with an avx offset of 20 and get 60C in aida 64.

9900X 5.4Ghz ? ))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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59 minutes ago, MEDDERX said:

As the title says, I am looking at getting a 9820x or 9900x, but am also considering a 9800x or even a 9920x...

 

Wondering if more knowledgeable people have some input. I am wanting this to me my last cpu upgrade for awhile but the crazy prices are stopping me from pulling out my card and getting the 9920x. I have a E5-2695 v3 (totally not a ES) and after having way too much if an overclock on it I got some degradation so I put it back to stock and now its quite a bit slower and its too hard to game with it, but its what I expected to happen so oh well. 

 

For the mobo I think I am set on the asus x299 deluxe II, feel free to recommend any others but I really only want asus. 

 

Workstation wise I mostly use a program called pixinsight, which will take as much processing power you can throw at it, and a tiny bit of photoshop. Gaming is just things like assetto corsa and a bit of bf4. 

Have you considered a 9900K? It will be much nicer on your bank account and will offer around 10% less preformance then a 9820X if you arent a big overclocker.

8700K @ 5.2ghz 1.29V, 4x8 Rev.E @ 4040 13-20-20-39 1.7V.

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Just now, SharkGTX said:

Guys... 9900X CAN DO 5Ghz, But you need Extreme powerful water for that!!! But it can

I'm not questioning wether or not you have 5.1GHz, but if you really want to test stability run y-cruncher to at least 1 billion digits. 

5 minutes ago, porina said:

Ooh, astrophotographer? :) 

yup, one of the few hobbies that is more expensive than computers lol

Main Computer: Intel 9900k, Asus Maximus XI Formula, Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 4x16GB 3000MHZ C15, EVGA GTX1070 Hybrid, Corsair HX850i, Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic, 26TB

2: Xeon 2695 V3, Asus x99-A II, Corsair Vengeance Pro 4x8GB 2666 C15, Corsair RX750

3: Dell R510 8-Bay, dual x5675, 16GB ECC, 8x600GB 15k SAS

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1 minute ago, SharkGTX said:

9900X 5.4Ghz ? ))))))))))))))))))))))))))

8700K non delid :):):) with air cooling

8700K @ 5.2ghz 1.29V, 4x8 Rev.E @ 4040 13-20-20-39 1.7V.

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I have 24/7 stability for my needs. And thats it. Planning to leave 5.2 1.35V of even 5.25 1.375V at 24/7. Will see

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1 minute ago, alatron978 said:

8700K non delid :):):) with air cooling

You can play all games with it? You can render 4K video at 5.4?

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Just now, alatron978 said:

Have you considered a 9900K? It will be much nicer on your bank account and will offer around 10% less preformance then a 9820X if you arent a big overclocker.

I really want to like the 9900k but I cant, 16 pcie lanes and only 2 memory channels is kinda a joke. If I was purely a gamer I would probably get it. 

Main Computer: Intel 9900k, Asus Maximus XI Formula, Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 4x16GB 3000MHZ C15, EVGA GTX1070 Hybrid, Corsair HX850i, Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic, 26TB

2: Xeon 2695 V3, Asus x99-A II, Corsair Vengeance Pro 4x8GB 2666 C15, Corsair RX750

3: Dell R510 8-Bay, dual x5675, 16GB ECC, 8x600GB 15k SAS

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Just now, SharkGTX said:

You can play all games with it? You can render 4K video at 5.4?

with a 20 avx offset yeah, only 1.415V.

8700K @ 5.2ghz 1.29V, 4x8 Rev.E @ 4040 13-20-20-39 1.7V.

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Just now, alatron978 said:

with a 20 avx offset yeah, only 1.415V.

ONLY 1.415v? Air can handle it?! 1.415v ?!!?!?

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