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Bad performance on strategy games?!

Khader87
By Khader87
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Hi,

 

i have I5 8500, vega 64 and 16GB DDR4 @2666mhz (cl 14 -16-16-34)

 

I run many new titles like AC: Odyssey, The Division 2, BO4, Battelfied 5, BF1 on almost the highest settings with no issues on my 2560x1080 29 ultrawide monitor at 80hz.

 

But, when i play strategy games like Anno 1800, Frostpunk, total war games, my super computers becomes a Pentium 4 PC!

 

why is that? how much demanding are those games?

 

what do they need more than an 8th gen 6 core intel cpu, 2nd strongest GPU from AMD, and high end rams?

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Have you updated the graphics driver?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Hello.

 

The RAM timings are set standard for DDR4, I do remember the huge performance increase from 2666mhz to 4000mhz. Make sure your CPU is in ratio around 4.8ghz and you good to go for now. The I5 8500 may not even hit that, its basically a silicon lottery but I'm sure 4.8ghz would be a nice base. Its only 9mb cache so don't expect it to fix everything.

 

I would invest in 4266mhz RAM and tighten the timings for 4000mhz.

 

Also what motherboard do you own? This makes a huge difference also.

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I know that Total War can easily kill an overclocked i9 9900k. That rig also has 2 GTX 1080 tis and at 1440p and they don't help. 

 

These types of games run at 60fps without issue so setting detail to achieve that is the thing to do. 

 

AI is the main reason these games are hard on the CPU.  Consider that in a game like Fortnite you are the AI.  Since AI is the heavy lifting for CPUs  Fortnite runs fast.

AI in gaming development was really fast at first but popularity of online multiplayer games just about killed it. It is one of the reasons I still play the original Xcon.

 

 

 

RIG#1 CPU: AMD, R 7 5800x3D| Motherboard: X570 AORUS Master | RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB DDR4 3200 | GPU: EVGA FTW3 ULTRA  RTX 3090 ti | PSU: EVGA 1000 G+ | Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic | Cooler: EK 360mm AIO | SSD#1: Corsair MP600 1TB | SSD#2: Crucial MX500 2.5" 2TB | Monitor: ASUS ROG Swift PG42UQ

 

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Frostpunk too that surprises me... Total war is known for its ludicrous system demands when you want to enjoy the game topnotch. i7's on intel's side are recommended. I even believe with the current cpu releases that its wiser to stick on amd's side of life since they offer more treads then Intel.
Basically wargaming is cpu intensive and not at all gpu intensive.
Ram wise your better of with more memory then with faster memory

Still if your a bit handy with graphics settings you should be able to reproduce a fine picture on your system. Watch out with antialias for example … x8 on 4k … lol i would need to use my year long savings for that pc ?  

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