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I'm a mechanical design engineering student in Mexico, as of right now I'm starting to build my very first PC which I'll be using mostly for CAD/CAM work with programs such as SolidWorks, Catia V5 and FeatureCAM/MasterCAM and perhaps a tiny bit of Matlab thrown in there sometime soon, here's the pcpartpicker link:

If someone could teach me how can i embed the list instead of posting just this link, that'd be awesome too!

So far I've already bought the CPU, RAM and the SSD and the rest is complete uncharted territory for me, here are some bullet-points I have some doubts in 

  • I don't wish to spend more than 1500USD 
  • As for the motherboard I just don't know if I would be overspending on it, from what I've heard the Asus prime x470 pro (and I'm seriously tempted by the Crosshair Hero VII tbh) is a good choice and since I plan to spend big on the last AM4 CPU's perhaps it makes some sense, however I'd love to know if any of you think otherwise and maybe I should by a B450 board. 
  • I know that the build lacks a GPU, I was thinking on the Radeon Pro WX 3100 for it's capabilities and of course it's friendly price tag, however maybe you guys think that it is a terrrible idea and I should be going for something like a RX 5xx or a NVIDIA offering (I'm open to that too) but I'm not a vivid gamer so it's certainly likely that i'll be wasting the performance of maybe even a RTX 2060 (I say the 2060 since it's THE MOST I'm willing to spend on a GPU perhaps a GTX 1660/Ti makes more sense money-wise) 
  • As for the monitor, I'm open to suggestions, I don't think high refresh rates help CAD/CAM at all so maybe I can save a buck or two there, I reckon a good 1080p monitor would suffice (If you guys have good 1440p suggestions feel free to enlighten me) 
  • The PSU I selected is the RM750X white series, as far as I can tell, the system will not be pushing it's limits however I've been told it's a reliable PSU and it suits the white-ish theme I'm looking for since the RAM is also white and if I carry on with the x470 pro it'd be a nice colour scheme, yet again I'm open to suggestions on that matter

I think that's pretty much it, I'd like to thank you all in advance for your help and hope you have a fantastic day!

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6 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

Thanks for the input mate, unfortunately for me, the p4000 retails for about the equivalent of 1000USD but i'll take a look at the rest

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17 minutes ago, Bigbenirv said:

Thanks for the input mate, unfortunately for me, the p4000 retails for about the equivalent of 1000USD but i'll take a look at the rest

oh really? that sucks...

 

rx580 and the vega line is afaik the best you can get on the consumer level for a relatively nice price

 

tho keep in mind that Solidworks is more a intel guy.. and you don't really need a x470, a good b450 like the tomahawk, pro carbon or aorus elite are great options too

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1st gen Ryzen 7 will be better than a 2nd gen 6 core with just core count. Single core speed hasn't increased much from 1st gen to 2nd gen

 

As for GPU, If P4000 cost too much what about the Radeon Pro WX8200 (workstation Vega 56)? Performance equivalent on average, though there are things one surpasses the other greatly.

 

Asrock X370 Taichi is usually cheapest board with enough power to hold something like a 16 core 3rd gen Ryzen if that turns out to be a thing. It definitely beats everything in terms of delivering current to the CPU.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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56 minutes ago, Oalei said:

Ryzen 7 is the way to go if its me, i think a workstation need 8 cores for Apps that will benefit from core counts rather than clock speed and ryzen 7 doesnt really give that bad of a clock speed maybe

Yep, thought of that too but I really needed to get the build going and the 2600X was on sale

 

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38 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

oh really? that sucks...

 

rx580 and the vega line is afaik the best you can get on the consumer level for a relatively nice price

 

tho keep in mind that Solidworks is more a intel guy.. and you don't really need a x470, a good b450 like the tomahawk, pro carbon or aorus elite are great options too

It really does, getting hardware around here is pretty hard, and also there are literally 2 hardware stores in my state and they're not very well equipped so amazon and newegg have been my best friends during this project, I'll take a look at those b450 boards, as for the RX, do you reckon SW and Catia will benefit from those cards? 

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33 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

1st gen Ryzen 7 will be better than a 2nd gen 6 core with just core count. Single core speed hasn't increased much from 1st gen to 2nd gen

 

As for GPU, If P4000 cost too much what about the Radeon Pro WX8200 (workstation Vega 56)? Performance equivalent on average, though there are things one surpasses the other greatly.

 

Asrock X370 Taichi is usually cheapest board with enough power to hold something like a 16 core 3rd gen Ryzen if that turns out to be a thing. It definitely beats everything in terms of delivering current to the CPU.

The WX8200 suffers from the same problem as the p4000, they're essentially the same price around here, as for the x370 taichi, it's actually more expensive than the x470 pro from asus and a tad bit less expensive than the Crosshair Hero VII so I don't believe it makes a ton of sense, unless you think otherwise

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2 minutes ago, Bigbenirv said:

It really does, getting hardware around here is pretty hard, and also there are literally 2 hardware stores in my state and they're not very well equipped so amazon and newegg have been my best friends during this project, I'll take a look at those b450 boards, as for the RX, do you reckon SW and Catia will benefit from those cards? 

not that familiar with those two, i just know it from solidworks because i have a license from school

 

3 minutes ago, Bigbenirv said:

The WX8200 suffers from the same problem as the p4000, they're essentially the same price around here, as for the x370 taichi, it's actually more expensive than the x470 pro from asus and a tad bit less expensive than the Crosshair Hero VII so I don't believe it makes a ton of sense, unless you think otherwise

what about the x470 taichi, fatal1ty, aorus ultra and pro carbon?

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40 minutes ago, Bigbenirv said:

The WX8200 suffers from the same problem as the p4000, they're essentially the same price around here,

WX7100 then? This one is an RX 580 workstation basically. Nvidia's offering, the P2000, is noticeably worse.

 

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 as for the x370 taichi, it's actually more expensive than the x470 pro from asus and a tad bit less expensive than the Crosshair Hero VII so I don't believe it makes a ton of sense, unless you think otherwise

Asus X470-Pro only has half the current output capability as the X370 (and X470 at that) Taichi boards, and overall (WiFi and stuff) is a significant downgrade. Taichi still isnt as good as the Crosshair though.

 

what about the Gigabyte Gaming 7 and MSI X470 Carbon and M7?

 

@LukeSavenije why are your board recommendations so varied in performance?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

LukeSavenije why are your board recommendations so varied in performance?

because i want to know pricing on them so i can make the best recommendation possible

 

tho i forgot about the aorus 7 and m7, thanks for that

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12 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

WX7100 then? This one is an RX 580 workstation basically. Nvidia's offering, the P2000, is noticeably worse.

 

Asus X470-Pro only has half the current output capability as the X370 (and X470 at that) Taichi boards, and overall (WiFi and stuff) is a significant downgrade. Taichi still isnt as good as the Crosshair though.

 

what about the Gigabyte Gaming 7 and MSI Carbon and M7?

 

@LukeSavenije why are your board recommendations so varied in performance?

The wx7100 does make more sense, maybe that's where my money will end up 

6 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

because i want to know pricing on them so i can make the best recommendation possible

 

tho i forgot about the aorus 7 and m7, thanks for that

Maybe it's best if I list the recommendations you guys are giving me in a most to least expensive order:

  1. ASUS Crosshair Hero VII
  2. Gigabyte Gaming 7
  3. MSI M7
  4. ASRock x470 Taichi (by a very little margin)
  5. ASRock x370 Taichi
  6. ASUS x470 Pro
  7. ASRock Fatal1ty
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3 minutes ago, Bigbenirv said:

Maybe it's best if I list the recommendations you guys are giving me in a most to least expensive order:

  1. ASUS Crosshair Hero VII
  2. Gigabyte Gaming 7
  3. MSI M7
  4. ASRock x470 Taichi (by a very little margin)
  5. ASRock x370 Taichi
  6. ASUS x470 Pro
  7. ASRock Fatal1ty

but what is the actual price? $5 and $50 difference is important.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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13 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:
  1. ASUS Crosshair Hero VII- $297.58 (USD)
  2. Gigabyte Gaming 7- $280.36(USD)
  3. MSI M7- $269.75(USD)
  4. ASRock x470 Taichi- $263.52(USD)
  5. ASUS x470 Pro- $198.18(USD)
  6. ASRock x370 Taichi- $185.70(USD) (slight change, my bad)
  7. ASRock Fatal1ty- $151.65(USD)

Here it is, also, thanks for all the help so far, it is truly appreciated

 

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