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Post Objective: To figure out how to optimize systems (For myself and whoever finds this later)

TLDR: How do I optimize my F@H system for better performance? I'm only getting ~ 480K and 380K PPD for each 1070 which seems awfully low (I'm expecting 600-750k). Should I OC CPU / RAM?

 

I've already done the basics:

  • Increasing the priorities of the tasks in Task Manager
  • Changed "next-unit-percentage" from it's default of 99 to 100
  • Freed up the CPU (It was only getting a few hundred PPD)
  • Disabled most background processes / services
  • Check if hardware is throttling (it isn't)

 

Problems I think I may be having:

  • CPU too bad? As shown in the first image, even without any folding, each FahCore_21.exe is taking up 17% of my CPU (exactly one core each). Makes me think that it is maxing out each core and unable to push the GPU harder.
  • Low system RAM? I only have 4 GB installed, but I'm unsure that adding more (or overclocking) would help. Anybody have any tips?
  • Low HDD space remaining (It's an 80GB HDD, I have ~5 GB space left)

 

Misc Quotes regarding Optimization

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"Unless you don't have GPU cards to fold with, CPU points for F@H are currently almost not worth turning them on" - Markfw, 2002

 

"If you have CPU limited GPU, then overclock your CPU. May be this is the best increase of PPD you'll ever see" -Metal03326, 2008

 

"I've noticed increment in PPD when changing RAM (not VRAM) timings. Gained 1% when changed from 5-5-5-18 to 4-4-4-12, and again 1% when changed from 4-4-4-12 to 3-3-3-8" -Metal03326, 2008

 

"Setting next-unit-percentage to 100 (Config -> Slots -> GPU -> Edit -> Extra Slot Options -> Add: Name "next-unit-percentage", Value "100") increases bonus, but only if the internet speed is good" - quite a few people

 

My Specs:

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CPU: 6200 @ 3.8 GHz (No OC)

GPU: 2 x 1070 (No OC)

RAM: 2 x 2GB DDR3 @ 1333 CL9 (No OC)

OS: Win7Ult

Temps: Low enough.

 

System Information Pictures

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18 hours ago, Imbellis said:

Problems I think I may be having:

  • CPU too bad? As shown in the first image, even without any folding, each FahCore_21.exe is taking up 17% of my CPU (exactly one core each). Makes me think that it is maxing out each core and unable to push the GPU harder.
  • Low system RAM? I only have 4 GB installed, but I'm unsure that adding more (or overclocking) would help. Anybody have any tips?
  • Low HDD space remaining (It's an 80GB HDD, I have ~5 GB space left)

Those numbers seem really low. The GPU database at OC.net shows around 700kPPD as their average. You used to be able to dive into the numbers and see the stats pe WU which also showed the clock rate but that access is gone now making the database a whole lot less useful.

 

Each NVidia card requires one thread per GPU though it sits at 100% it is in a “spin-wait” state doing mostly nothing waiting for something to do. This is a “feature” of the Nvidia Driver. AMD drivers don’t do this. Testing done by members of the Folding Forum have indicated that as long as the CPU is clocked at 1.8GHz or faster it should have no problem feeding a mid or high-range GPU.

 

During the Folding Month I was running my then new RTX 2070 in a 10 year old Acer ITX motherboard with a 2.8GHz Athlon X2 II 220 CPU in a PCIe 2.0 x16 slot with 3GB DDR2 and it was producing the same as it does now that it’s moved into a rig with a 3.5GHz Pentium G5500 with 4GB DDR4 in a PCIe 3.0 x16 slot running at x8. This is under Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS Server though.

 

With respect to RAM if you are not paging heavily, which you don’t appear to be, it should be fine.

 

HDD space should be fine. FAH is pretty light. It should have space to download and extract the zipped WU and download the core and to log.

 

You might try using an older driver. Some users on Windows have reported that using the earliest drive that supported the 1070 Ti produces the most points so a different Driver might produce different results. Some drivers in the 375 or thereabouts are also noted as notorious under performers.

 

When I got the hardware for my second dedicated folding Rig I ran a test for a couple of days each on Win 10 Pro 64-bit and Ubuntu with a 1060 6GB and found no difference in PPD between the two. Granted this was running the G5500 with 8GB DDR4 2400 rather than the 4GB I use on it now so Windows, which tends to be a bit more of a resource hog, may have liked it better.

 

You just mention your Temps are “Low Enough” What clocks are you seeing on the GPU (Shader)? Are you sure your not Boosting down due to temps in the high 70s low 80s. I find in my dual card rigs that the upper card gets cooked by the lower so I manually adjust GPU Fans to bring the temps down into the lower 70s, ideally high 60s but the loss to Boost 3 is usually just one or 2 13MHz steps (bins) and so wouldn’t likely explain why your seeing roughly 1/2 what you should in yield.

 

About the only other thing I can think is to check your PCIe slots to ensure that each card is getting at least x4. If one of the cards is on an x4 from the PCH rather than from the CPU directly then it will likely suffer.

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3 hours ago, Gorgon said:

You might try using an older driver. Some users on Windows have reported that using the earliest drive that supported the 1070 Ti produces the most points so a different Driver might produce different results. Some drivers in the 375 or thereabouts are also noted as notorious under performers. 

You just mention your Temps are “Low Enough” What clocks are you seeing on the GPU (Shader)? Are you sure your not Boosting down due to temps in the high 70s low 80s. I find in my dual card rigs that the upper card gets cooked by the lower so I manually adjust GPU Fans to bring the temps down into the lower 70s, ideally high 60s but the loss to Boost 3 is usually just one or 2 13MHz steps (bins) and so wouldn’t likely explain why your seeing roughly 1/2 what you should in yield. 

  

About the only other thing I can think is to check your PCIe slots to ensure that each card is getting at least x4. If one of the cards is on an x4 from the PCH rather than from the CPU directly then it will likely suffer. 

Don't know if I can specifically find the shader temps, but my  cards were running 82C/70C MAX. 82C was throttling a bit, so I've maxed the fan curves. Now running 72C/55C MAX. Clocks are 3650 / 3700 Mhz. They're still folding poorly after a few hours.

 

Each GPU is in a x16 slot (on a 970A-D3 board), but one is running x16 and one is running x4 (GPU-Z images below). Any way to tell if it's run off of the PCH? I'm suspecting the x4 probably is. How would I fix that?

 

I've also cleared ~40GB off of the HDD and OC'd the RAM a bit, but no real improvements.

 

Regarding drivers, I'm running 419.35  - the newest build. I'm going to try 397.64 (Oldest I could find on their site- May 2018) and a few others and see if there is any improvement.

 

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43 minutes ago, Imbellis said:

Don't know if I can specifically find the shader temps, but my  cards were running 82C/70C MAX. 82C was throttling a bit, so I've maxed the fan curves. Now running 72C/55C MAX. Clocks are 3650 / 3700 Mhz. They're still folding poorly after a few hours.

 

Each GPU is in a x16 slot (on a 970A-D3 board), but one is running x16 and one is running x4 (GPU-Z images below). Any way to tell if it's run off of the PCH? I'm suspecting the x4 probably is. How would I fix that?

 

I've also cleared ~40GB off of the HDD and OC'd the RAM a bit, but no real improvements.

 

Regarding drivers, I'm running 419.35  - the newest build. I'm going to try 397.64 (Oldest I could find on their site- May 2018) and a few others and see if there is any improvement.

 

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Page 8 of the manual show what likely is the problem. It seems that on the AM3 platform the PCIe bus does not directly connect to the CPU. The PCIe 2.0 x16 slot (PCIe 3.0 x8 equivalent) is connected to the Northbridge and the PCIe 2.0 x16 slot running at x4 (PCIe 3.0 x2 equivalent speed). At issue is the bus between the CPU and the Northbridge is a Hyper Transport (HT) and AM3 CPUs don’t appear to use the full 32-bit bus width. It is also not clear what the bus speed is between the Northbridge and Southbridge where the second slot is.

 

Im much more familiar with Intel architecture than AMD’s. @Ben Quigley might be able to offer some suggestions.

 

I suspect what you’re seeing is the card in the native x16 slot is producing better than the one in the x16 slot running at x4. This is likely due to contention for the HT bus between the CPU and Northbridge.

 

There are BIOS settings for the HT bus speed and width on that board. You could check to see if they’ve been changed from the defaults. You could also try removing all other PCIe cards as they may be impacting performance and likewise disabling USB (if you have PS/2 keyboard and mouse) , Audio and other non-essential components to see if that helps.

 

If you do start playing with BIOS settings you might want to stop folding and download FAHBench to test so you can run short tests and not fail WUs which will delay scientific results.

 

Unfortunately the “best” solution is to replace the motherboard, CPU and memory OR to try running only one 1070 in the upper slot as a single card in the x16 slot should be fine. If you have a lower performing card (1060, 1050 or older AMD) it may work in the lower slot with a 1070 in the upper slot but running mixed AMD and Nvidia GPUs under Windows can be a nightmare from what I’ve seen in other posts.

 

Take a look and see if you can see a correlation between performance and the available PCIe lanes and try removing the lower card to see if the upper card’s yield goes way up.

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He is correct, AMD systems prior to AM4 had no direct links to the cpu for most of the IO. one is the reasons this was done was to make chips forward compatible. Another interesting fact early AM3 chips has both DDR2 and DDR3  IMCs to ensure compatibility.

 

Furthermore, AM3+ is a horrible platform for anything that uses even moderate IO bandwidth due to the fact the link between the external IO Controllers(the northbridge) was far too slow to actually saturate any of the IO that the northbridge was connected too. So if you are pulling lots of data through the USB and SATA controllers it wasn't unheard of to see overall system performance slug. With that said, there weren't many none-enterprise use cases that actually saturated the HT link enough for this is cause a problem back in the day. 

 

TLDR, use one card per AM3/AM3+/FM2 system and you will be fine 

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2 hours ago, Ben Quigley said:

He is correct, AMD systems prior to AM4 had no direct links to the cpu for most of the IO. one is the reasons this was done was to make chips forward compatible. Another interesting fact early AM3 chips has both DDR2 and DDR3  IMCs to ensure compatibility.

 

Furthermore, AM3+ is a horrible platform for anything that uses even moderate IO bandwidth due to the fact the link between the external IO Controllers(the northbridge) was far too slow to actually saturate any of the IO that the northbridge was connected too. So if you are pulling lots of data through the USB and SATA controllers it wasn't unheard of to see overall system performance slug. With that said, there weren't many none-enterprise use cases that actually saturated the HT link enough for this is cause a problem back in the day. 

 

TLDR, use one card per AM3/AM3+/FM2 system and you will be fine 

Thanks Ben. I wasn’t easily able to find a definitive reference that stated how wide/fast the HT link was on that generation of CPUs.

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20 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

Thanks Ben. I wasn’t easily able to find a definitive reference that stated how wide/fast the HT link was on that generation of CPUs.

I have just paid with many AMD systems folding that I've learnt. You do lot's is reading and stuff when trying to optimise your own rig I guess. 

 

The other truth is Ryzen has so overshadowed older AMD platforms they'd it's harder to find the info these days.

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18 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

I have just paid with many AMD systems folding that I've learnt. You do lot's is reading and stuff when trying to optimise your own rig I guess. 

 

The other truth is Ryzen has so overshadowed older AMD platforms they'd it's harder to find the info these days.

The sad truth is that I’ve spent almost 25 years doing systems engineering at work and most of the “little” stuff has been on Intel platforms. I’ve liked AMD stuff since I was in College but they’ve not made many inroads in the enterprise space.

 

Nowadays they don’t let me play with hardware as much at work (uggh meetings and virtualization) so I get my “fix” building things at home.

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Another possible solution might be to reduce the upper GPU to about an 80% Power Limit which will reduce clocks and frame time and utilately how often it accesses the PCIe bus.

 

Concurrently reduce the lower card’s Power Limit to as low as it will go. This will greatly reduce its use of the PCIe bus but will also greatly lower the power consumption.

 

Im finding in my testing that Pascal and Turing cards appear to be most efficient (PPD/W) at their lowest limits. This means a 20% reduction in Watts translates into less of a reduction in Yields

 

You May be able to actually increase your yield by this method as reducing the contention for the bus will mean faster transfers to the GPUs when they need to be fed.

 

You can adjust the power limits in afterburner or Precision O/C on the fly but wait 10 or 15 minutes after an adjustment for the PPD yield calculation to stabilize.

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6 hours ago, Gorgon said:

Another possible solution might be to reduce the upper GPU to about an 80% Power Limit which will reduce clocks and frame time and utilately how often it accesses the PCIe bus.

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Running just one 1070 results in 500-550K PPD. I think I'm maxing it out already.

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1 hour ago, Imbellis said:

Running just one 1070 results in 500-550K PPD. I think I'm maxing it out already.

So would you say the yield for just that single card is higher than when the lower cards was installed?

 

Might just be the WU though. I’ve noticed that with the demise of the 117xx series and the new 144xx series an overall reduction in yield over the last few days too but it’s hard to tell as I’m currently running most of my cards with reduced Power Limits. How’s your GPU utilization looking in GPUZ?

 

I was able to get 1.2MPPD consistently from a RTX2070 in a PCIe 2.0 x16 slot on AM3 and I’m currently getting 415kPPD from a 1060 6GB in the same system at a 80% Power Limit and 450kPPD at 100% Power Limit. This is an nForce Chipset under Ubuntu though rather than an AMD chipset under Windows but the same HT limitations should be present.

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5 hours ago, Gorgon said:

So would you say the yield for just that single card is higher than when the lower cards was installed?

 

Might just be the WU though. I’ve noticed that with the demise of the 117xx series and the new 144xx series an overall reduction in yield over the last few days too but it’s hard to tell as I’m currently running most of my cards with reduced Power Limits. How’s your GPU utilization looking in GPUZ?

 

I was able to get 1.2MPPD consistently from a RTX2070 in a PCIe 2.0 x16 slot on AM3 and I’m currently getting 415kPPD from a 1060 6GB in the same system at a 80% Power Limit and 450kPPD at 100% Power Limit. This is an nForce Chipset under Ubuntu though rather than an AMD chipset under Windows but the same HT limitations should be present. 

Yield might be slightly higher, but too small to draw conclusions from - it's been anywhere from 480K to 550K (Compared to ~460K to ~500K before).

 

It's currently getting ~485K on 141XX WUs. My 1060 on AM4 is doing ~285K 385K on a 141XX WU. (Still far below the averages for both)

Would running the benchmark go off of these new WUs?

 

This whole thing is weird. I guess I'll have to wait it out and hope that this is just a bad set of WUs.

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