7700k bottlenecking??

[roundhouseboy11]

Hey all. I recently upgraded my rigs gpu to an Rtx 2080 ti from a 1080 strix. My current rig consists of:

Asus Prime Z270-A Motherboard

i7 7700k Cpu

16gb DDR4 Corsair Vengance Ram

750W Psu

Rtx 2080 ti

I am using an Alienware Ultrawide 34’ monitor to game at 3440x1440. In many games I am experiencing 80-90% Cpu usage and around 80-85% gpu usage. I play Battlefield V, Anthem, Witcher 3 and WoW. I tred overclocking my cpu to 5.0 ghz and it helped very little. Is it looking like I should be upgrading my motherboard and Cpu or could the issue be relates to something else? I’d greatly appreciate anyones insight on my issues. Thanks

[emosun]

So there no actual problem with the rig other than you looking at the cpu usage?

[PopsicleHustler]

Are you getting low GPU usage? Like drops below 80%?

[Turtle Rig]

4 minutes ago, PopsicleHustler said:

Are you getting low GPU usage?

Also what resolution is he using ? 1080p will play with the CPU, 1440p and higher is more GPU demanding.  Your GPU usage is normal.  Also make sure vsync is off.  My CPU usage in these modern AAA games is 20 to 60 percent usage.  So I don't know why yours is so high.  Did you overclock your 7700k ?

[PopsicleHustler]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

Also what resolution is he using ? 1080p will play with the CPU, 1440p and higher is more GPU demanding.  Your GPU usage is normal.  Also make sure vsync is off.  My CPU usage in these modern AAA games is 20 to 60 percent usage.  So I don't know why yours is so high.  Did you overclock your 7700k ?

3440 x 1440, its says in his post.

[Mister Woof]

i7-7700k is still very strong in 2019, and should not really bottleneck even a 2080 ti THAT much in most cases.

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3421-intel-i7-9700k-review-benchmark-vs-8700k-and-more

 

In the case of WoW, you will have the exact same CPU performance on your 5ghz 7700k as I get on my 5ghz 8700k because it's largely single threaded and FPS lows are dictated by CPU bottlenecks, not GPU. Your low fps will have one of your CPU cores hammered and the rest doing near nothing, and your GPU will be at 30% or something. This is at any resolution. When lots of people are on screen doing stuff, your fps WILL tank. Nothing to be done about it. Just because you have a 2080ti doesn't mean you'll get 144fps all the time. Even a 9900k will perform the same as an i3-8350k in this game, at equal frequency. Overclock helps this considerably, though. 

 

I would not be worried about the usages as an absolute indication of performance.

 

What is your fps in games?

 

If you have a 75hz monitor and you are hitting the vsync cap at 75hz, but your GPU and CPU are capable of more, they will not be at 100%.

[roundhouseboy11]

33 minutes ago, PopsicleHustler said:

Are you getting low GPU usage? Like drops below 80%?

No, my gpu usage isn't going below 80%

[roundhouseboy11]

20 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

i7-7700k is still very strong in 2019, and should not really bottleneck even a 2080 ti THAT much in most cases.

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3421-intel-i7-9700k-review-benchmark-vs-8700k-and-more

 

In the case of WoW, you will have the exact same CPU performance on your 5ghz 7700k as I get on my 5ghz 8700k because it's largely single threaded and FPS lows are dictated by CPU bottlenecks, not GPU. Your low fps will have one of your CPU cores hammered and the rest doing near nothing, and your GPU will be at 30% or something. This is at any resolution. When lots of people are on screen doing stuff, your fps WILL tank. Nothing to be done about it. Just because you have a 2080ti doesn't mean you'll get 144fps all the time. Even a 9900k will perform the same as an i3-8350k in this game, at equal frequency. Overclock helps this considerably, though. 

 

I would not be worried about the usages as an absolute indication of performance.

 

What is your fps in games?

 

If you have a 75hz monitor and you are hitting the vsync cap at 75hz, but your GPU and CPU are capable of more, they will not be at 100%.

Thanks for the reply. My fps in AAA games is hovering around 60 fps. I understand that at my resolution I am not to be getting 200 Fps but for my rig I thought I could achieve at least 80 frames in AAA titles.

[Mister Woof]

5 minutes ago, roundhouseboy11 said:

No, my gpu usage isn't going below 80%

What is your fps in games, what is your monitor refresh, and are you using vsync

[roundhouseboy11]

Just now, Plutosaurus said:

What is your fps in games, what is your monitor refresh, and are you using vsync

My fps in AAA games like Anthem and Battlefield V is 60-65 fps. My refresh rate is overclocked to 120hz and no, I am not using VSync. I am using G sync however. 

[Mister Woof]

6 minutes ago, roundhouseboy11 said:

My fps in AAA games like Anthem and Battlefield V is 60-65 fps. My refresh rate is overclocked to 120hz and no, I am not using VSync. I am using G sync however. 

You sure u have 120 selected on the display adapter in windows?

[roundhouseboy11]

3 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

You sure u have 120 selected on the display adapter in windows?

I believe so. It is also set to 120hz in nvidia control panel.

[Mister Woof]

18 minutes ago, roundhouseboy11 said:

I believe so. It is also set to 120hz in nvidia control panel.

I suppose if you aren't using vsync it wouldn't matter doh

 

Seems off. I don't think 60fps at 1440p ultawide makes sense on bf5 w/2080 ti 

 

 

This is 1080p, but at this resolution it should be CPU bound, and at 1440 ultrawide it should shift more to the GPU 

 

If your CPU was the issue it would be here that you see it 

 

[Turtle Rig]

54 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

i7-7700k is still very strong in 2019, and should not really bottleneck even a 2080 ti THAT much in most cases.

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3421-intel-i7-9700k-review-benchmark-vs-8700k-and-more

 

In the case of WoW, you will have the exact same CPU performance on your 5ghz 7700k as I get on my 5ghz 8700k because it's largely single threaded and FPS lows are dictated by CPU bottlenecks, not GPU. Your low fps will have one of your CPU cores hammered and the rest doing near nothing, and your GPU will be at 30% or something. This is at any resolution. When lots of people are on screen doing stuff, your fps WILL tank. Nothing to be done about it. Just because you have a 2080ti doesn't mean you'll get 144fps all the time. Even a 9900k will perform the same as an i3-8350k in this game, at equal frequency. Overclock helps this considerably, though. 

 

I would not be worried about the usages as an absolute indication of performance.

 

What is your fps in games?

 

If you have a 75hz monitor and you are hitting the vsync cap at 75hz, but your GPU and CPU are capable of more, they will not be at 100%.

Well said my friend. Ya there's a lot of games that are simply not optimized properly for todays tech.  The Unreal Engine is optimized to run on pretty much any box.  While in BF5 if you are short on your hardware you will suffer greatly.  Every game is different.  Games like Tomb Raider are horribly optimized.  While Fortnite is greatly optimized using Unreal Engine 4 which yields great FPS so long as you don't put it on ultra high and what not.