Desktop Vs laptop

[D-J97]

Hi guys, 

Just came her to see what other people would do in my predicament.

We recently moved to a new house and I thought there wouldn't be space for my pc (which is currently broken but that's beside the point), so the other day I ordered a laptop through my workplace salary exchange scheme, and I'm still in the cooling off period so I could still cancel the order, but last night we found a space which I could put a desk in the bedroom.

So I'm not sure whether I should just get the laptop (hp omen, i7 8750h, gtx 1060, 144hz) and lose things like upgradability and performance, with the advantage of being able to play games downstairs and not be antisocial with my girlfriend, or cancel it, fix my desktop (fx8350, 980ti, 1050p monitor) and just use that in the bedroom, and upgrade to Ryzen as and when I can, I'm a bit stuck so anyones 2 pence would be appreciated.

[D-J97]

Oh and yes I did make a push for both but she said there's no point as one of them probably wouldn't get used which she is right

[Txe]

1 minute ago, D-J97 said:

Hi guys, 

Just came her to see what other people would do in my predicament.

We recently moved to a new house and I thought there wouldn't be space for my pc (which is currently broken but that's beside the point), so the other day I ordered a laptop through my workplace salary exchange scheme, and I'm still in the cooling off period so I could still cancel the order, but last night we found a space which I could put a desk in the bedroom.

So I'm not sure whether I should just get the laptop (hp omen, i7 8750h, gtx 1060, 144hz) and lose things like upgradability and performance, with the advantage of being able to play games downstairs and not be antisocial with my girlfriend, or cancel it, fix my desktop (fx8350, 980ti, 1050p monitor) and just use that in the bedroom, and upgrade to Ryzen as and when I can, I'm a bit stuck so anyones 2 pence would be appreciated.

Well it depends if it was me i would just get a smaller pc because first I dont like that laptops cant be upgradable most of the time and the sensation and neatness of building and having a small pc makes me feel nice

[D-J97]

Just now, Txe said:

Well it depends if it was me i would just get a smaller pc because first I dont like that laptops cant be upgradable most of the time and the sensation and neatness of building and having a small pc makes me feel nice

I agree on the upgrading but the CPU is a beast and the laptop does have thunderbolt 3 so could do an external gpu, the thing is the laptop is on credit so my wages would be deducted a small amount each week for the price of the laptop for 24 months, I wouldn't miss that money, but I'm terrible at saving and don't have the money now to buy the parts to downsize my pc, plus I have an external water-cooling unit so size would still be significant and the pc would still have to go in the bedroom as the is literally nowhere else it can go, so I'm no better off for building it smaller iygm?

[WereCatf]

5 minutes ago, D-J97 said:

fix my desktop (fx8350, 980ti, 1050p monitor)

That is not worth spending even a dime on, to be quite frank. Also, if you really are *that* strapped for space, I don't think it's a good idea to plop a desktop-PC in your bedroom. I mean, what if e.g. your gf is sick or something and just wants to sleep in peace? You wouldn't really be able to use your PC without disturbing her. A laptop allows it to be moved from one place to another easily, or like @Txe, a small form-factor PC that can reasonably easily be moved elsewhere.

 

At least I wouldn't want to disturb my partner's sleep in any circumstance, unless it was a proper emergency, and so I'd avoid any hobby-activities in the bedroom.

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

Things to concern:

- space 

- perf to price > desktop wins

- ability to repair / upgrade/ life span > desktop wins

- do you want to escape from you girlfriend? 

 

finally do you even need a pc , any alternatives? raspberry pi / samsung dex / chromebook etc

[D-J97]

1 minute ago, WereCatf said:

That is not worth spending even a dime on, to be quite frank. Also, if you really are *that* strapped for space, I don't think it's a good idea to plop a desktop-PC in your bedroom. I mean, what if e.g. your gf is sick or something and just wants to sleep in peace? You wouldn't really be able to use your PC without disturbing her. A laptop allows it to be moved from one place to another easily, or like @Txe, a small form-factor PC that can reasonably easily be moved elsewhere.

 

At least I wouldn't want to disturb my partner's sleep in any circumstance, unless it was a proper emergency, and so I'd avoid any hobby-activities in the bedroom.

With having 3 kids there's no space anywhere else in the house, but yeah I didn't even think about that, plus I have a racing wheel and the ffb is pretty loud so that adds to your point of sleeping in peace, and our youngest is a week old so will still be in our bedroom for at least 6 months, again sff pc would still have to be in the bedroom, but to your point of not worth spending money, it only needs a new monitor and CPU/mobo/ram

[D-J97]

1 minute ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

Things to concern:

- space 

- perf to price > desktop wins

- ability to repair / upgrade/ life span > desktop wins

- do you want to escape from you girlfriend? 

 

finally do you even need a pc , any alternatives? raspberry pi / samsung dex / chromebook etc

It's for gaming so those are not really alternatives, I have a netbook for general computing tasks but the performance is just awful, but I don't want to escape her, the only real time we get together is when the kids go to bed so that's only a few hours a day, hence why I don't want to have to go to the bedroom just to play some games

[WereCatf]

6 minutes ago, D-J97 said:

With having 3 kids there's no space anywhere else in the house

I can imagine. Can't really comment on your use of space, but one thing I came to think of is that, no matter which kind of PC you eventually decide to go with, you could at some point buy an NVIDIA Shield TV and plop that in your living-room; you could stream your gameplay from the PC to the Shield TV, thereby possibly disturbing anyone sleeping in the bedroom less. (If you have no idea what I'm talking about, Shield TV is a small box you connect to your TV and it allows you to do all sorts of multimedia-stuff, watch streaming services like Netflix etc., but also you can have a game running on your PC, but have audio/video streamed to the Shield TV and you can play your game as if it was running on the Shield TV itself)

[D-J97]

4 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

I can imagine. Can't really comment on your use of space, but one thing I came to think of is that, no matter which kind of PC you eventually decide to go with, you could at some point buy an NVIDIA Shield TV and plop that in your living-room; you could stream your gameplay from the PC to the Shield TV, thereby possibly disturbing anyone sleeping in the bedroom less. (If you have no idea what I'm talking about, Shield TV is a small box you connect to your TV and it allows you to do all sorts of multimedia-stuff, watch streaming services like Netflix etc., but also you can have a game running on your PC, but have audio/video streamed to the Shield TV and you can play your game as if it was running on the Shield TV itself)

I did think about this with the laptop, have the pc running and stream to the laptop, 144hz display and all that, I think Nvidia has a service for this don't they? (Other than the shield) as not all the games I play are on Steam so Steam play isn't all encompassing, or looking glass with Linux? 

[WereCatf]

1 minute ago, D-J97 said:

I did think about this with the laptop, have the pc running and stream to the laptop, 144hz display and all that, I think Nvidia has a service for this don't they? (Other than the shield) as not all the games I play are on Steam so Steam play isn't all encompassing, or looking glass with Linux? 

You can actually use Steam in-home streaming even for games and apps that aren't on Steam. Also, yes, NVIDIA's service is through Geforce Experience. So you have multiple ways of doing it, just gotta choose which one you like the most.

[Brennan Price]

The laptop would serve you better performance straight off the bat, however, get rid of the 8350 and its board and RAM and then upgrade straight to Ryzen. That rig with a 980Ti is well worth spending the money on instead of the laptop. Depends where you're gonna use it and if you want to game outside of your home etc. 

[D-J97]

6 minutes ago, Brennan_Price said:

The laptop would serve you better performance straight off the bat, however, get rid of the 8350 and its board and RAM and then upgrade straight to Ryzen. That rig with a 980Ti is well worth spending the money on instead of the laptop. Depends where you're gonna use it and if you want to game outside of your home etc. 

The desktop definitely has better performance, but granted the FX does hold it back a bit, I don't really go anywhere outside the house to game, it's purely a space requirement, plus its the money to upgrade, the laptop is a monthly thing straight off my wages

[Gareque]

56 minutes ago, D-J97 said:

our youngest is a week old so will still be in our bedroom for at least 6 months

That right there is your answer.  If you have a child in the bedroom who could be asleep at any time, chances are you aren't going to be gaming until he's asleep anyways, so you aren't going to be able to sit there playing whilst he's asleep in the same room.

 

As someone who recently had a kid who's now 10 months old, I still fret about waking him with my keyboard in the room next to my PC, let alone in the same one.

 

If you haven't the space elsewhere, I'd say the laptop is realistically your only option for now.  Or hold off for the 6 months, save up and buy a new PC when you can.

 

Edit: That said, if you are going to be replacing the motherboard, cpu and ram anyways, you may as well just replace it with a Ryzen setup from the start.  Slightly more expensive, but probably more available right now than FX.  Especially because options for motherboard will be very limited now in most places.

[D-J97]

1 hour ago, Gareque said:

That right there is your answer.  If you have a child in the bedroom who could be asleep at any time, chances are you aren't going to be gaming until he's asleep anyways, so you aren't going to be able to sit there playing whilst he's asleep in the same room.

 

As someone who recently had a kid who's now 10 months old, I still fret about waking him with my keyboard in the room next to my PC, let alone in the same one.

 

If you haven't the space elsewhere, I'd say the laptop is realistically your only option for now.  Or hold off for the 6 months, save up and buy a new PC when you can.

 

Edit: That said, if you are going to be replacing the motherboard, cpu and ram anyways, you may as well just replace it with a Ryzen setup from the start.  Slightly more expensive, but probably more available right now than FX.  Especially because options for motherboard will be very limited now in most places.

Yeah, I think I've now decided on the laptop for now, then in the future upgrade the pc and use a streaming service like Steam play or Nvidia geforce one, until such a time a desk is viable, thanks for all your help guys! Oh and of course when I say replace CPU/mobo/ram I do mean upgrade to something like Ryzen, don't know why I'd replace them with the same outdated platform? 

[Gareque]

4 minutes ago, D-J97 said:

Yeah, I think I've now decided on the laptop for now, then in the future upgrade the pc and use a streaming service like Steam play or Nvidia geforce one, until such a time a desk is viable, thanks for all your help guys! Oh and of course when I say replace CPU/mobo/ram I do mean upgrade to something like Ryzen, don't know why I'd replace them with the same outdated platform? 

That was my first thought lol.

 

Best of luck with it, along with the newborn.  Sleepless nights, ahoy!