Which CPU upgrade?

[Madexo]

Hi,

 

I now have an i5 4670K overclocked, but it's starting to fall behind rapidly.

Considering i have to upgrade motherboard, cpu and RAM i want to make my pc a bit more future proof.

(I don't need 500 fps either. as long as i should be able to play games at 60 or above for a few years i'm good)

 

I can't make up my mind on which cpu's are a good choice, and why.

 

CPU's i'm considering:

• Ryzen 7 2700X 
• Ryzen 5 2600x
• Intel i7 8700k
• Intel i5 8600k

 

Any recommendation or why would be very helpful

[TheElectronicGeek1]

1 minute ago, Madexo said:

Hi,

 

I now have an i5 4670K overclocked, but it's starting to fall behind rapidly.

Considering i have to upgrade motherboard, cpu and RAM i want to make my pc a bit more future proof.

 

I can't make up my mind on which cpu's are a good choice, and why.

 

CPU's i'm considering:

• Ryzen 7 2700X 
• Ryzen 5 2600x
• Intel i7 8700k
• Intel i5 8600k

 

Any recommendation or why would be very helpful

I have a 4690k and am planning to get a 3700x or whatever they call it when it's out. I would suggest the 8700k or 8600k if you are doing only gaming but if your streaming or doing more than gaming then get a ryzen cpu.

[pas008]

resolution?

are you in a hurry to upgrade? considering next gen ryzen around the corner

[Madexo]

Just now, pas008 said:

resolution?

are you in a hurry to upgrade? considering next gen ryzen around the corner

Regular 1080p

 

Not really in a hurry either, haven't heard of the next gen ryzen yet

[Hotseff]

Just now, Madexo said:

Hi,

 

I now have an i5 4670K overclocked, but it's starting to fall behind rapidly.

Considering i have to upgrade motherboard, cpu and RAM i want to make my pc a bit more future proof.

(I don't need 500 fps either. as long as i should be able to play games at 60 or above for a few years i'm good)

 

I can't make up my mind on which cpu's are a good choice, and why.

 

CPU's i'm considering:

• Ryzen 7 2700X 
• Ryzen 5 2600x
• Intel i7 8700k
• Intel i5 8600k

 

Any recommendation or why would be very helpful

Do you have a budget for this upgrade?

[Madexo]

Just now, Hotseff said:

Do you have a budget for this upgrade?

I'd obviously rather not spend 650€ or so for an upgrade. but i'd say €500-600 ($560-670) is doable

[pas008]

4 minutes ago, Madexo said:

Regular 1080p

 

Not really in a hurry either, haven't heard of the next gen ryzen yet

forgot to ask gpu along with res

 

but if you arent in a hurry

you should look into next ryzen series before making any decision

[Hotseff]

Just now, Madexo said:

I'd obviously rather not spend 650€ or so for an upgrade. but i'd say €500-600 ($560-670) is doable

I also forgot to ask if your in need of a cooler for the cpu?

[LogicWeasel]

I'm not saying run out and buy the Intel i5 but since you're comparing CPUs in todays market:

Since the i5-9600k is often cheaper or the same price as 8600k replace it on your list with the 9th gen as it's the obvious replacement for the 8600k.

[LogicWeasel]

8 minutes ago, Madexo said:

Regular 1080p

Now I'm curious, what games can your i5-4670k not manage 60fps @ 1080p ?  What GPU is it paired with?  I find it very odd that the 4th Gen i5 (when overclocked no less!) cannot keep pace with 60Hz (not 120-144Hz) 1080p gaming.

[TheElectronicGeek1]

1 minute ago, LogicWeasel said:

Now I'm curious, what games can your i5-4670k not manage 60fps @ 1080p ?  What GPU is it paired with?  I find it very odd that the 4th Gen i5 (when overclocked no less!) cannot keep pace with 60Hz (not 120-144Hz) 1080p gaming.

A few games just use too much cpu, it's not really a single core problem but multi core. The crew 2 for example just maxes out my 4690k, and i have a 750 ti. The game is pretty badly optimized, but a few other games just need more than 4 cores.

[LogicWeasel]

7 minutes ago, TheElectronicGeek1 said:

A few games just use too much cpu, it's not really a single core problem but multi core. The crew 2 for example just maxes out my 4690k, and i have a 750 ti. The game is pretty badly optimized, but a few other games just need more than 4 cores.

What framerate does it drop to when you state it "maxes out" ?

Honestly just from the fact that your GPU is that old, you would be FAR more likely to see a real game boost if you got a better GPU (even an RX 570 would drastically improve performance comapred with that card for < $148).

[TheElectronicGeek1]

1 minute ago, LogicWeasel said:

What framerate does it drop to when you state it "maxes out" ?

Well in the crew 2 for me it drops down to like 40, the game never really runs at 60. My gpu usage never really goes to 100% because the game sucks all of the cpu, even though the framerate is unlimited.

[LogicWeasel]

3 minutes ago, TheElectronicGeek1 said:

Well in the crew 2 for me it drops down to like 40, the game never really runs at 60. My gpu usage never really goes to 100% because the game sucks all of the cpu, even though the framerate is unlimited.

I can tell you that just because you don't see your GPU go to 100%, does not mean definitively that your GPU isn't a bottleneck, and a potentially major one at that.

Your CPU falls in the recommended CPU in system requirements for the Crew 2.  You GPU falls terribly short.  That is your real problem right now:

 

The Crew 2 Recommended Requirements

• CPU: Intel Core i5-4690k @ 3.5 GHz or AMD Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.2 GHz or equivalent
• RAM: 8 GB
• OS: Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1, Windows 10 (64-bit versions only)
• VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 (6GB) or GTX 970 (4GB) or AMD RX 470 (8GB) or better
  
  Source: https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/the-crew-2/16047

[Madexo]

18 minutes ago, Hotseff said:

I also forgot to ask if your in need of a cooler for the cpu?

Not planning on overclocking, could use the standard cooler with AMD or buy one if its intel

[Madexo]

17 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

Now I'm curious, what games can your i5-4670k not manage 60fps @ 1080p ?  What GPU is it paired with?  I find it very odd that the 4th Gen i5 (when overclocked no less!) cannot keep pace with 60Hz (not 120-144Hz) 1080p gaming.

2x GTX 970

 

Even on low battlefield 1 (for example) pushes my cpu to 100%, making it stutter all over the place and reaching a "max" fps of 50-60 (somehow)

[Hotseff]

@Madexo 

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