Slow Loads and Boots

[beztoken]

Didn't see this subforum before, so I'm going to post my other thread again here hoping for some help. Cinebench below.

 

TL;DR - Windows (Samsung 830 Series) and games (850 EVO) load slower than what it should be on an SSD. My games load slower than my friend who has his games on an HDD. Windows takes about 2 minutes from pushing the power button to reaching the desktop.

 

Benchmarked the drives with Samsung Magician and results showed the listed specs. 

 

Trying to figure out if there is some hardware that is causing this. Bad CPU? Damaged MOBO? I don't know.

 

 

[Arkyo0]

try this?

https://www.howtogeek.com/134735/how-to-see-if-your-hard-drive-is-dying/

[wojtepanik]

yeah run hdtune benchmark and badsector test, paste smart here

[191x7]

What does Hard Disk Sentinel say about the drives?

[beztoken]

28 minutes ago, wojtepanik said:

yeah run hdtune benchmark and badsector test, paste smart here

Not entirely sure if this is what you were looking for.

[beztoken]

Pressed on Error Scan and ran it as well for one drive. Stopped it in the middle.

[wojtepanik]

10 minutes ago, beztoken said:

 

Not entirely sure if this is what you were looking for.

yes it is, both drives are "fine", 830 has is more degraded, this minimum speed concerns me, this 850 also was heavily used but seems ok. Definitly not HDD like speeds. In nearest future replace this 830 with something brand new, move system to it, and keep games on this 850, just to be save as ssd tend to fail without a warning.

[Warelf]

This may sound like a silly question, but you are using a SATA III Cable right? (6Gb/ps)

[Not all SATA cables are marked or labelled and they look identical, but SATA II Cable will result in (3Gb/ps everytime)

 

Do a sytem bench withuserbenchmark. https://www.userbenchmark.com/

It's a small download and the results are quite informative on all of your main components.

This should flag where your issue is if not your SATA cable itself. Good Luck.

 

That EVO should be giving you at 580 - 620, not 418.

Edited February 21, 2019 by Warelf
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[beztoken]

6 hours ago, Warelf said:

Do a sytem bench withuserbenchmark. https://www.userbenchmark.com/

 

This first test, I had a bunch of stuff running (Discord, Spotify, Logitech Gaming Framework, some bittorrent clients, and several tabs).

 

For this test, I ran it with everything closed save for the few tabs.

7 hours ago, Warelf said:

but you are using a SATA III Cable right? (6Gb/ps)

 

So, the cables I used with them are very old and I don't know of any way to confirm that they are SATA III because my order history is gone, however I'm pretty sure they are.

[beztoken]

8 hours ago, Warelf said:

That EVO should be giving you at 580 - 620, not 418.

I had my brother do the test as well for his 850 EVO. Results.

This confuses be because when we play games that show other people's loads, he loads much faster than a friend who has the game on an HDD, and that friend loads faster than me, when my games are on the 850 EVO I screenshotted above.

 

[beztoken]

Bump and additional info.

This benchmark is from my friend's system.

ASUS Prime z370-A | 16gb RAM | MSI 980TI | i7-8700k | 850 Watt Gold PSU | Win10 64 bit | Samsung 840 and 850 EVO

 

Still looking for any possible solutions.

[Vulkan HeStan]

It may sound basic BUT have you ran an anti malware scan? MalwareBytes is good for that. Also check Task Manager for startup apps and look for processes that are using significant resources. It's low level but good to cover basics.

[beztoken]

10 minutes ago, Vulkan HeStan said:

have you ran an anti malware scan? MalwareBytes is good for that. Also check Task Manager for startup apps and look for processes that are using significant resources.

Yes, and that's what I used for it. The startup apps turned on or off actually had no impact on my boot times when I timed boots with them on and off, awkwardly enough...

[Warelf]

Ok the bench shows that its more worried about the cpu load than the 58% performance of your ssd - the way it should be. So the cpu load should be adressed before it will flag a sata cable (and it would only suggest it, it won't say for sure) The other suggestion is either too much (thick) dust on the heatsink (it forms a dust grut) the fans spins fine and all looks good but the heat sink can't "breath" - Try the malware scan first, that would be a lot less time and it's not a bad suggestion.

 

[beztoken]

11 hours ago, Warelf said:

The other suggestion is either too much (thick) dust on the heatsink (it forms a dust grut) the fans spins fine and all looks good but the heat sink can't "breath"

Would this affect idle temps? I have high 30s to low 40s for idle temps.

[Warelf]

On 2/24/2019 at 3:49 AM, beztoken said:

Would this affect idle temps? I have high 30s to low 40s for idle temps.

Yes it could. You should be able to see the "dust-grime" when the system is powered down, without removing any hardware. If you can't see the dust layer, then it's probably not the problem here. BUT if you are using an AIO watercooler, idle should be high 20's - low 30's. So you could be looking at thermal hotspots as well (it usually happens when the cpu and cooler has been a combo for a while. The paste (most factory on stock coolers) "lasts" anywhere to about 2 - 5 years, depending on manufacturers. In this case you just have to remount your cooler using some fresh paste. (about the size of a cooked rice grain).

[beztoken]

Since my last post, I have changed my CPU with another that I had before upgrading another computer in the house. I inserted a 4790k (not OC'd), but my idle temps are still in the high 30s. Its never been lower than mid 30s even when it was first built (maybe the AIO I got just wasn't good?). The other computer in has an EVO 212 and has mid 20s as idle temps. 

 

Anyhow, inserted new CPU, changed thermal paste, and still same slow boots and slow loads. I've done a userbenchmark since, and everything seemed fine for scores (~45th percentile without OC). I've also closed about all programs and was at 5% backgorund cpu when doing the benchmark.