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Ok, I need a little help with my BIOS. 

 

Specs: AMD Ryzen 5 2600, RTX 2070, MSI B450 Tomahawk

 

My issue: When I boot my PC, there is no screen that says the key to press to enter the BIOS. Its a black screen until windows boots. I know what the key is so I press DEL, and then I tried F11 to get into the boot menu, in which i get a black screen with no output to any port on the GPU or motherboard. I saw if I could boot with the UEFI Firmware Settings, but the BIOS is set as Legacy and not UEFI (I don't know how to change it.)  I used BIOS flashback on the board to update the latest BIOS and that didn't work either. I have also tried clearing the CMOS.

 

I need to get into the BIOS to boot from windows on my SSD.

 

If you have any info or questions, please leave that below. 

Thanks!

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8 minutes ago, MircoTechZed said:

Ok, I need a little help with my BIOS. 

 

Specs: AMD Ryzen 5 2600, RTX 2070, MSI B450 Tomahawk

 

My issue: When I boot my PC, there is no screen that says the key to press to enter the BIOS. Its a black screen until windows boots. I know what the key is so I press DEL, and then I tried F11 to get into the boot menu, in which i get a black screen with no output to any port on the GPU or motherboard. I saw if I could boot with the UEFI Firmware Settings, but the BIOS is set as Legacy and not UEFI (I don't know how to change it.)  I used BIOS flashback on the board to update the latest BIOS and that didn't work either. I have also tried clearing the CMOS.

 

I need to get into the BIOS to boot from windows on my SSD.

 

If you have any info or questions, please leave that below. 

Thanks!

 

I ran into a similar issue with my new motherboard and CPU last week.

 

  1. Press the 'Start' button, and go into 'Settings'.
  2. Click on 'Update and Security'.
  3. Click on 'Recovery' from the menu on the left-hand side.
  4. Click on the 'Restart' button under 'Advanced startup.'
  5. A list of options should come up -- choose 'Troubleshoot.'
  6. Click on 'Advanced options.'
  7. You should then see 'UEFI Firmware Settings.'
  8. Then hit the 'Restart' button.

System will restart, and should automatically take you into the BIOS.

 

For me, at least, after doing this, the BIOS blast screen would come up, and stay up longer.

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On 2/19/2019 at 9:54 PM, -rascal- said:

I ran into a similar issue with my new motherboard and CPU last week.

 

  1. Press the 'Start' button, and go into 'Settings'.
  2. Click on 'Update and Security'.
  3. Click on 'Recovery' from the menu on the left-hand side.
  4. Click on the 'Restart' button under 'Advanced startup.'
  5. A list of options should come up -- choose 'Troubleshoot.'
  6. Click on 'Advanced options.'
  7. You should then see 'UEFI Firmware Settings.'
  8. Then hit the 'Restart' button.

System will restart, and should automatically take you into the BIOS.

 

For me, at least, after doing this, the BIOS blast screen would come up, and stay up longer.

I am on a Legacy BIOS, would you happen to know how to change that to UEFI?

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3 minutes ago, MircoTechZed said:

 

 

According to the MSi B450 Tomahawk motherboard manual, there is NO Legacy only.

There is only [UEFI] or [Legacy + UEFI].

 

image.png.1491b6354427b3d4d0ab4bae12f78229.png

 

That makes sense since Windows 8 / 8.1 / 10 are UEFI supported (8.1 and 10 are UEFI only?)

You should be able to get into the BIOS with my above steps, even if it is set to [Legacy + UEFI] mode. 

 

Once to DO get into the BIOS, make sure 'Full Screen Logo Display' is set to [Enabled].

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1 minute ago, -rascal- said:

 

According to the MSi B450 Tomahawk motherboard manual, there is NO Legacy only.

There is only [UEFI] or [Legacy + UEFI].

 

image.png.1491b6354427b3d4d0ab4bae12f78229.png

 

That makes sense since Windows 8 / 8.1 / 10 are UEFI supported (8.1 and 10 are UEFI only?)

You should be able to get into the BIOS with my above steps, even if it is set to [Legacy + UEFI] mode. 

 

Once to DO get into the BIOS, make sure 'Full Screen Logo Display' is set to [Enabled].

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This is what MSINFO says

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On 2/19/2019 at 10:10 PM, -rascal- said:

 

According to the MSi B450 Tomahawk motherboard manual, there is NO Legacy only.

There is only [UEFI] or [Legacy + UEFI].

 

image.png.1491b6354427b3d4d0ab4bae12f78229.png

 

That makes sense since Windows 8 / 8.1 / 10 are UEFI supported (8.1 and 10 are UEFI only?)

You should be able to get into the BIOS with my above steps, even if it is set to [Legacy + UEFI] mode. 

 

Once to DO get into the BIOS, make sure 'Full Screen Logo Display' is set to [Enabled].

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On 2/19/2019 at 10:12 PM, MircoTechZed said:

This is what MSINFO says

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I have no idea is that means Legay + UEFI, but in the advanced restart, I do not have the UEFI Firmware option

 

And since win. 10 and 8.1 are UEFI only, probably explains why I do not have a BIOS

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I have no idea is that means Legay + UEFI, but in the advanced restart, I do not have the UEFI Firmware option

 

It means both Legacy and UEFI mode is available.

At the Step #6, 'Advanced option' step, do you see a 'see more recovery options' button there?

 

You are running Windows 10, why would you not have a BIOS?

UEFI = BIOS ...

 

If you cleared CMOS correctly, it should have reset all your UEFI BIOS settings back to default.

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Just now, -rascal- said:

 

It means both Legacy and UEFI mode is available.

At the Step #6, 'Advanced option' step, do you see a 'see more recovery options' button there?

 

You are running Windows 10, why would you not have a BIOS?

UEFI = BIOS ...

well I do not mean I do not have a BIOS, I just cant boot into it. I will try your recommendation.

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well I do not mean I do not have a BIOS, I just cant boot into it. I will try your recommendation.

 

Also, make sure you properly cleared the CMOS.

 

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My motherboard is an MSI B450 Tomahawk. I am tired of typing this out. Someone help or I will just buy a new PC. I have reset the CMOS ans installed the newest BIOS. It says I  have a legacy BIOS and not UEFI so I don't have UEFI Firmware boot options. I don't even get the MSI logo when I boot my PC.

 

I only want to a clean install of windows on my new SSD and change it to my default boot dive, but I cant boot from the flash drive without a BIOS. 

 

The image is exactly what my advanced startup screen looks like.

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Try using the BIOS key to get into it on startup. I'm more experienced with ASUS boards, so try F2, F12, DEL, and F8. Maybe someone else knows and can help. 

 

I'm not sure what frame of the Adv. Startup menu that is, but it should be somewhere. If the above doesn't work, try poking around 

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Try using the BIOS key to get into it on startup. I'm more experienced with ASUS boards, so try F2, F12, DEL, and F8. Maybe someone else knows and can help. 

 

I'm not sure what frame of the Adv. Startup menu that is, but it should be somewhere. If the above doesn't work, try poking around 

Oh yeah I forgot to mention I have tried every key. I looked it up that the key is DEL for my mobo, but when i press it on boot, it has no output on any output.

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Oh yeah I forgot to mention I have tried every key. I looked it up that the key is DEL for my mobo, but when i press it on boot, it has no output on any output.

Tried spamming it?

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That too.

Odd, are you plugged into the MOBO display output or a discrete card

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Cats: Chili and Cheddar (Don't Ask):

Cute: Yes  Fur: Soft  Tail: In front of you whacking your face

 

Cereal: 

Dry: NOPE  With Milk: Cinnamon Toast Crunch  Milk: Whole % Vitamin D  Hot: Quaker Instant Maple  Steel Cooked: Wegmans with Sweetened Condensed Milk

 

Coffee:

Type: Latte  Caffeinated: very much so  Milk: Yes

 

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wondering if its because the BIOS is Legacy, id there any way to change to to UEFI?

Good idea, only problem is that that switch would usually be in the BIOS it self. Does the MOBO have USB BIOS flashback/update or a OS software based updater tool? Try updating to the latest BIOS. Might help

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Phone: Google Pixel:

CPU: Qualcomm 821  GPU: Adreno 530  RAM: 4GB LPDDR4X  Storage: 32GB eMMC  Display: 5" 16:9 1080x1920p Corning Gorilla Glass 4

 

Dog: Shorty, Absolute Mutt:

Ears: Floppy  Tail: Long  Paws: Muddy  Fur: Brown

 

Cats: Chili and Cheddar (Don't Ask):

Cute: Yes  Fur: Soft  Tail: In front of you whacking your face

 

Cereal: 

Dry: NOPE  With Milk: Cinnamon Toast Crunch  Milk: Whole % Vitamin D  Hot: Quaker Instant Maple  Steel Cooked: Wegmans with Sweetened Condensed Milk

 

Coffee:

Type: Latte  Caffeinated: very much so  Milk: Yes

 

Game consoles:

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Odd, are you plugged into the MOBO display output or a discrete card

I have tried doing both of the HDMI and DVI on the mobo. I have also tried on my video card. Its not exactly a black screen, my monitor just doesn't display anything and it goes into sleep mode.

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1 minute ago, AKinsey2468 said:

Good idea, only problem is that that switch would usually be in the BIOS it self. Does the MOBO have USB BIOS flashback/update or a OS software based updater tool? Try updating to the latest BIOS. Might help

@MircoTechZedTry this

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CPU: i5-7300U  GPU: Intel HD 620  RAM: 2x4GB DDR3 1866 MHz  MOBO: Microsoft Custom  SSD: Internal M.2  Soundcard: built in  Case: lol its a laptop  Screen: see case: lol its a laptop

 

Phone: Google Pixel:

CPU: Qualcomm 821  GPU: Adreno 530  RAM: 4GB LPDDR4X  Storage: 32GB eMMC  Display: 5" 16:9 1080x1920p Corning Gorilla Glass 4

 

Dog: Shorty, Absolute Mutt:

Ears: Floppy  Tail: Long  Paws: Muddy  Fur: Brown

 

Cats: Chili and Cheddar (Don't Ask):

Cute: Yes  Fur: Soft  Tail: In front of you whacking your face

 

Cereal: 

Dry: NOPE  With Milk: Cinnamon Toast Crunch  Milk: Whole % Vitamin D  Hot: Quaker Instant Maple  Steel Cooked: Wegmans with Sweetened Condensed Milk

 

Coffee:

Type: Latte  Caffeinated: very much so  Milk: Yes

 

Game consoles:

PC ALL THE WAY

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1 minute ago, AKinsey2468 said:

Good idea, only problem is that that switch would usually be in the BIOS it self. Does the MOBO have USB BIOS flashback/update or a OS software based updater tool? Try updating to the latest BIOS. Might help

Yes the mobo has a flashback button. I cant find any UEFI updates though. Perhaps you know of one?

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Just now, MircoTechZed said:

Yes the mobo has a flashback button. I cant find any UEFI updates though. Perhaps you know of one?

Lemme check

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Just now, MircoTechZed said:

Yes the mobo has a flashback button. I cant find any UEFI updates though. Perhaps you know of one?

What revision are you on

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Primary PC:

CPU: i5-8600K @Stock  GPU: RTX 2060 Zotac GAMING Amp  RAM: 4x4GB 2400 MHz DDR4 Crucial Ballistix Sport LT  MOBO: Asus Prime Z390-A  HDD: 4 TB 5400 RPM Seagate Barracuda, 2TB 7200 RPM Seagate Backup Plus Ultra Slim  SSD: Inland Professional 120 GB  Soundcard: built in  Case: NZXT H500i  Screen: HP 22cwa IPS

 

Server: Working on it (See https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1039535-server-build/)

 

Laptop : Microsoft Surface Pro 5:

CPU: i5-7300U  GPU: Intel HD 620  RAM: 2x4GB DDR3 1866 MHz  MOBO: Microsoft Custom  SSD: Internal M.2  Soundcard: built in  Case: lol its a laptop  Screen: see case: lol its a laptop

 

Phone: Google Pixel:

CPU: Qualcomm 821  GPU: Adreno 530  RAM: 4GB LPDDR4X  Storage: 32GB eMMC  Display: 5" 16:9 1080x1920p Corning Gorilla Glass 4

 

Dog: Shorty, Absolute Mutt:

Ears: Floppy  Tail: Long  Paws: Muddy  Fur: Brown

 

Cats: Chili and Cheddar (Don't Ask):

Cute: Yes  Fur: Soft  Tail: In front of you whacking your face

 

Cereal: 

Dry: NOPE  With Milk: Cinnamon Toast Crunch  Milk: Whole % Vitamin D  Hot: Quaker Instant Maple  Steel Cooked: Wegmans with Sweetened Condensed Milk

 

Coffee:

Type: Latte  Caffeinated: very much so  Milk: Yes

 

Game consoles:

PC ALL THE WAY

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