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This is part 3 of a discussion started on tomsharware, and i hope that is the last.

Sooooo, i want to buy a new mobo for mah IC2D E8400, a Asrock G41M-VS3 R2.0.

And here is the riddle, two choiches, only one, or two is correct. i use THIS PDF as reference

I have lying around two SODIMM DDR3 1600 GHz Ram, but is not supported, so i wasted two sodimm to dimm adapters.

I have the option to buy it + DDR3 1333, but on the pdf it says "Supports DDR3 1333(OC)/1066/800" and that OC, i dont understand what is. i want to know if i can poot a ddr3 1333 on it, or i should go with a 1066 or 800.

or i have the option to discard mobo+ processor and build new shit. forgot to say that i need a 3ghz processor, as TF2 does not demand for my 1030.

thanks

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You *should* be able to use the SODIMMs in the adapters, You would  just need to underclock them.  That motherboard spec is stating that the motherboard won't run faster than 1333 mhz ram (and that 1333 speed is technically overclocked from what the board should natively run).

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OC means overclock, that whether it works depends on the memory controller and sticks' potential. However you can always run higher frequency rated sticks at lower frequency so it's not a problem.

 

what you CANNOT use are 8GB sticks and single sided (single rank) 4GB sticks. Socket 775 doesnt support memory dies with 512 Megabit capacity. These are used on 8GB sticks and single rank 4GB sticks.

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16 hours ago, zombienerd said:

You *should* be able to use the SODIMMs in the adapters, You would  just need to underclock them.  That motherboard spec is stating that the motherboard won't run faster than 1333 mhz ram (and that 1333 speed is technically overclocked from what the board should natively run).

strange enought, my 1666mhz sodimm ddr3 dont work with a mobo with same chipset, that is also unbranded.

i tested it, all lights are working but no display output or usb power. tested, cleared cmos, tried to change jumper positions, nothing

16 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

OC means overclock, that whether it works depends on the memory controller and sticks' potential. However you can always run higher frequency rated sticks at lower frequency so it's not a problem.

 

what you CANNOT use are 8GB sticks and single sided (single rank) 4GB sticks. Socket 775 doesnt support memory dies with 512 Megabit capacity. These are used on 8GB sticks and single rank 4GB sticks.

those that i have are two-sided, so nothing should block me. buuuuuuut not working.

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3 hours ago, TheAlePower2 said:

those that i have are two-sided, so nothing should block me. buuuuuuut not working.

SODIMM only holds half as much memory chips per side, so you dont just need double-sided ones, but those with 8 chips per side rather than 4 chips in a say, 4GB stick.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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19 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

SODIMM only holds half as much memory chips per side, so you dont just need double-sided ones, but those with 8 chips per side rather than 4 chips in a say, 4GB stick.

so why the duck it does not work!

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10 minutes ago, TheAlePower2 said:

so why the duck it does not work!

because 775 is too old to support newer DDR3 memory dies.

 

Also possible that the adapter is just not good enough

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

because 775 is too old to support newer DDR3 memory dies.

 

Also possible that the adapter is just not good enough

stupid china, you invented plagiarism and hentais

(no wait that was japan)

apart from jokes, i am sick of that. so i will go in pcpartpicker + ebay and find some crap.

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On 2/16/2019 at 6:19 PM, Jurrunio said:

SODIMM only holds half as much memory chips per side, so you dont just need double-sided ones, but those with 8 chips per side rather than 4 chips in a say, 4GB stick.

Corsair CM3X8GSDKIT1066

this SHOULD NOT be single, since has 8 chips for 4 gb sdick. sooo, going to use that one

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1 minute ago, TheAlePower2 said:

Corsair CM3X8GSDKIT1066

this SHOULD NOT be single, since has 8 chips for 4 gb sdick. sooo, going to use that one

good luck

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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On 2/17/2019 at 6:42 PM, Jurrunio said:

good luck

it does not work. i will create a new discussion to address the fix that i found. you seem pretty smart on mobo & memory, so please, go read it 

 

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