Compatibility check

[BasedGod]

@Maslofski , I would also go with the EVGA 780 that they have, because of the non reference cooler on it, and it's the same price

[Maslofski]

@Maslofski , I would also go with the EVGA 780 that they have, because of the non reference cooler on it, and it's the same price

 

i dont know ive thats better, since there isnt much airflow, just a 200mm in the front, so a blower style would be better id say. and ive i upgrade to SLI ACX cooler seem to be wrong and just blow the second card. what do you think?

[BasedGod]

i dont know ive thats better, since there isnt much airflow, just a 200mm in the front, so a blower style would be better id say. and ive i upgrade to SLI ACX cooler seem to be wrong and just blow the second card. what do you think?

You should be able to get adequate cooling/ airflow in that case no?

[BasedGod]

I still think the non reference cooling is better in most circumstances

[Maslofski]

well, the case comes with 1x 120mm in the back, and 1x 200mm in the front, while the top gets the 240mm radiator, so im not too sure about the airflow there

 

here a link where i read a bit about them compared: http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=2058494

[BasedGod]

well, the case comes with 1x 120mm in the back, and 1x 200mm in the front, while the top gets the 240mm radiator, so im not too sure about the airflow there

 

here a link where i read a bit about them compared: http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=2058494

Get two 140 mm in the front with the acx cooling, because it is better even with poor airflow

[Maslofski]

can you even mount 2x 140mm in the front? ill see ive they have some sort of cyclo pci fan, that would probably solve it

 

they seem to have http://www.yoytec.com/product_info.php/cPath/26_42/products_id/6590 

[BasedGod]

can you even mount 2x 140mm in the front? ill see ive they have some sort of cyclo pci fan, that would probably solve it

 

they seem to have http://www.yoytec.com/product_info.php/cPath/26_42/products_id/6590 

ifyou really want to but it won't be necessary

[Maslofski]

ive i dont take the acx it wont be necesary

[BasedGod]

ive i dont take the acx it wont be necesary

You will have perfectally adequate cooling without the reference cooler design in your case, In my I don't have that much airflow and my you temps are normal

[Maslofski]

well, we probably need a someone who knows about this airflow suff well to coment on that to make sure. Ill post that question in the Air cooling section too so we can get some more opinions, very important for the long run with later on SLI

[brob]

The entire purpose of non-reference coolers is to do a better job cooling the card. The big fans draw air in and blow it over the fins. The exhaust is out the top and back of the cooler. Some motherboards put two slots between the first two x16 slots to allow for more airflow. You will note that the ASRock board does that.

 

The Obsidan 650D case has removable drive bays. Removing one or more of them clears the air channel from the front 200mm fan to blow across the gpu.

[Maslofski]

The entire purpose of non-reference coolers is to do a better job cooling the card. The big fans draw air in and blow it over the fins. The exhaust is out the top and back of the cooler. Some motherboards put two slots between the first two x16 slots to allow for more airflow. You will note that the ASRock board does that.

 

The Obsidan 650D case has removable drive bays. Removing one or more of them clears the air channel from the front 200mm fan to blow across the gpu.

 

right, totaly forgot about removing those bays, but will SLI work well too?

[brob]

right, totaly forgot about removing those bays, but will SLI work well too?

 

SLI should be fine, but the 650D doesn't have the best airflow options. You may want to look at  NZXT Switch 810. It is close in price and has more cooling options.

[Maslofski]

SLI should be fine, but the 650D doesn't have the best airflow options. You may want to look at  NZXT Switch 810. It is close in price and has more cooling options.

 

thats a nice case, i gave up looking trough all of the available ones ofter seeing so many weird ones, but ill definitly update to that one, but tomorrow since ill get some fan research to see how i can fill it right fo ACX, so yes, ACX is now no problem

[WoodenMarker]

It's counter intuitive to me that an 85W TDP cpu would produce more heat output than a 135W TDP part.

yeah, but i looked up benchmarks and such things to see ive the 4820k would be worth, but i believe its because its, dont quote me on  this, 22nm, instead of 32nm, so its easier to cool because its not as masive

I'm not entirely sure but you guys are talking about the 4770k and 4820k right?

Assuming you are, the 4820k cools more easily because it has a larger die compared to the 4770k. More surface area = more heat transfer.

[brob]

I'm not entirely sure but you guys are talking about the 4770k and 4820k right?

Assuming you are, the 4820k cools more easily because it has a larger die compared to the 4770k. More surface area = more heat transfer.

 

The discussion concerns cooling in a high ambient (>30C) environment. The OP, @Maslofski, believes that an i7-4820K "runs cooler" than an i7-4770K and therefore is a better choice. Given the higher TDP that struck me as counter intuitive. It seems to me that given the same cooler, the lower total heat output should be the optimal choice.

[Maslofski]

@brob @WoodenMarker and on top of being cooler, it gives me LGA 2011 so i can upgrade easier

[brob]

@brob @WoodenMarker and on top of being cooler, it gives me LGA 2011 so i can upgrade easier

 

If you want LGA2011, it makes more sense to me to get an i7-4930K. That cpu at least performs better than an i74770K, rather than worse.

[Maslofski]

If you want LGA2011, it makes more sense to me to get an i7-4930K. That cpu at least performs better than an i74770K, rather than worse.

 

3930k is the only higher one available, but the prize jump isnt worth it

[WoodenMarker]

The discussion concerns cooling in a high ambient (>30C) environment. The OP, @Maslofski, believes that an i7-4820K "runs cooler" than an i7-4770K and therefore is a better choice. Given the higher TDP that struck me as counter intuitive. It seems to me that given the same cooler, the lower total heat output should be the optimal choice.

Well technically, it does 'run cooler'. The amount of heat it generates and how cool it runs are two different things.