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7 minutes ago, Daniel644 said:

 

 

Thank you! Are we talking 1060TI/1070 etc?

Which part of my system would you guys recommend for my next upgrade?

 

(yes i know my 1060 was overpriced)

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CPU Intel - Core i5-6600K 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor Purchased For £130.00
CPU Cooler Corsair - H60 54 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler Purchased For £50.00
Thermal Compound Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 12 g Thermal Paste Purchased For £11.00
Motherboard Asus - MAXIMUS VIII RANGER ATX LGA1151 Motherboard Purchased For £120.00
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory Purchased For £58.00
Storage ADATA - Premier SP550 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For £20.00
Storage SanDisk - Z400s 256 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For £0.00
Storage SanDisk - Z400s 256 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For £0.00
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For £0.00
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For £62.00
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB GT OCV1 Video Card Purchased For $450.00
Case Corsair - Carbide 400C ATX Mid Tower Case Purchased For £60.00
Power Supply OCZ - ZT 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply Purchased For £0.00
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit Purchased For £20.00
Case Fan Corsair - Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan Purchased For $0.00
Case Fan Corsair - Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition 37.85 CFM 120mm Fan Purchased For $0.00
Case Fan ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74 CFM 120mm Fan Purchased For $0.00
Case Fan ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74 CFM 120mm Fan Purchased For $0.00
Case Fan Corsair - Air Series AF120 Red 52.19 CFM 120mm Fan Purchased For £6.00
Monitor Asus - VE228H 21.5" 1920x1080 Monitor Purchased For £150.00
Keyboard Corsair - K70 LUX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard Purchased For $130.00
Mouse Razer - DeathAdder Chroma Wired Optical Mouse Purchased For £30.00
Headphones Razer - Kraken Pro Neon Headset Purchased For £50.00
Other Razer Firefly Chroma Custom Lighting Hard Gaming Mouse Pad Purchased For £25.00
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $580.00
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GPU is the main thing holding you back.
Maybe also get a better PSU?

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Add one or two more case fans and your computer fly away.

Your computer looks good enough and I don't think it needs any upgrade right now. If you MUST spend some money, think about nice peripherals (second monitor? nice speakers?).

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3 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

Add one or two more case fans and your computer fly away.

Your computer looks good enough and I don't think it needs any upgrade right now. If you MUST spend some money, think about nice peripherals (second monitor? nice speakers?).

I literally only have room for one more fan in the top, and i dont thermal throttle with CPU at 4,8GHz and GPU at +500mHz (i think), can you maybe help me with an explanation for why BF1 at low/medium gets 50FPS tops with drops to 10FPS quite often... Good idea with the monitor though, will look into that. (got any recommendations?)

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6 minutes ago, pbx2 said:

GPU is the main thing holding you back.

Why is that?

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Just now, O_Bedstew said:

Why is that?

A 1060 simply isn't the most powerful of GPUs, If you're looking to upgrade, Look at that.

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Just now, O_Bedstew said:

Why is that?

Don't listen to that - now, when 8th gen of processors is available, everything older is consider as "holdig your back" and "incredibly slow", even if few years ago the same config works fine.

 

About fans - I was kidding, you have TOO MUCH of them!

 

About monitors - no, sorry, it must be your personal preference. Everyone looking for something different.

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2 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

Don't listen to that - now, when 8th gen of processors is available, everything older is consider as "holdig your back" and "incredibly slow", even if few years ago the same config works fine.

Anything older than Haswell should be upgraded, Skylake is fine. (Unless you're running single threaded processes.)

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If you get a better videocard the cpu will hold youre new graphics card back i would look into getting a newer cpu and with that you can go ahead and get a better videocard

 

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3 hours ago, homeap5 said:

Don't listen to that - now, when 8th gen of processors is available, everything older is consider as "holdig your back" and "incredibly slow", even if few years ago the same config works fine.

 

About fans - I was kidding, you have TOO MUCH of them!

 

About monitors - no, sorry, it must be your personal preference. Everyone looking for something different.

The reason i have so many fans is that i just run them at lower RPM...

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So basically, some are saying GPU some are saying CPU...

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well it completely depends on your usage, in gaming your major "bottleneck" is the 1060, you have room to get more FPS by upgrading the GPU to something more powerful, the CPU is functional and could be used for many years to come in all likely hood, that said if the AMD rumors for tomorrow nights CES Keynote pan out with the announcement of Ryzen 3000 Desktop CPU's and the leaks are accurate in terms of clockspeeds Ryzen is just about to open a can of whoop-ass on anything older then 8th gen Intel (and pound 8th and 9th gen Intel pricing), if things pan out the way the rumors are talking you will have the Ryzen 5 3600x coming in with twice the number of cores (8 vs 4) and 4 times the total thread count (16 vs 4) for basically what your 6600k cost you new and will will boost to your 6600k overclock out of the box, so games that can use more then 4 cores will benefit from that upgrade (which as time moves on will become more standard now that 6 cores is the new average CPU). Your memory is also pretty slow, you could try overclocking it slightly (like say push it to 2400Mhz) you might be able to get 2666 Mhz, but don't count on it, that would help some (note if you do swap for Ryzen you'll NEED much faster memory). as for the cause of your dips make sure you disable any background process you don't need running, it sounds like something is hitting the CPU.

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7 minutes ago, Daniel644 said:

 

 

Thank you! Are we talking 1060TI/1070 etc?

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25 minutes ago, O_Bedstew said:

Thank you! Are we talking 1060TI/1070 etc?

go as powerful as you can afford to go, you could always upgrade the CPU later down the road, heck if you can go a week without gaming you could sell your 1060 and run off the 6600k onboard graphics for basic computing (no gaming) so you can increase your GPU budget by that much more. think about it this way, say you had the money for a 1080ti even if that CPU limited your max FPS in some games (because you play at 1080p) you could always upgrade the monitor to something higher res where the CPU would be less of a bottleneck or you could upgrade the CPU to something with more cores down the road and "unlock" more performance from the 1080ti, always buy the best GPU you can afford to buy, don't know how things are in Denmark but around here Vega64 is going for like $400 USD NEW and thats like 1080 level performance.

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8 minutes ago, Daniel644 said:

go as powerful as you can afford to go, you could always upgrade the CPU later down the road, heck if you can go a week without gaming you could sell your 1060 and run off the 6600k onboard graphics for basic computing (no gaming) so you can increase your GPU budget by that much more. think about it this way, say you had the money for a 1080ti even if that CPU limited your max FPS in some games (because you play at 1080p) you could always upgrade the monitor to something higher res where the CPU would be less of a bottleneck or you could upgrade the CPU to something with more cores down the road and "unlock" more performance from the 1080ti, always buy the best GPU you can afford to buy, don't know how things are in Denmark but around here Vega64 is going for like $400 USD NEW and thats like 1080 level performance.

Nitro+ Vega64 (only one i could find in denmark with a quick search) costs 600USD (4000DKK) so yeah...

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Upgrade the GPU first.

 

Does the board support the 8th or 9th gen CPU's?  If so, that's the next thing I'd suggest... Probably get a beefier 240/280mm AIO such as the Corsair 115 Pro if you like to OC the 8600/9600k

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1 minute ago, Anomnomnomaly said:

Upgrade the GPU first.

 

Does the board support the 7th or 9th gen CPU's?  If so, that's the next thing I'd suggest... Probably get a beefier 240/280mm AIO such as the Corsair 115 Pro if you like to OC the 8600/9600k

thats a z170 mobo so it's limited to a 7700k at best and those are way to overpriced to buy used.

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33 minutes ago, Daniel644 said:

thats a z170 mobo so it's limited to a 7700k at best and those are way to overpriced to buy used.

 and a 7600k isn't enough of an upgrade.

 

mind you, for the price of an i7 7700k you could get a ryzen 2600X and a B450 board.

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6 hours ago, Anomnomnomaly said:

 

 and a 7600k isn't enough of an upgrade.

 

mind you, for the price of an i7 7700k you could get a ryzen 2600X and a B450 board.

which is my point, anything that would be any kind of an upgrade while still using the same board would get walked on by the modern hardware that costs the same as that stuff sells for used, even 6700k's here in the USA are selling (like looking at SOLD listings, not what people are asking) USED on Ebay for like $230 USD which is the price of a 2700x that has 50% more cores and if the Ryzen 3000 rumors pan out tomorrow at the rumored pricing you'd have to be braindead to buy used Intel chips as you'll get double the cores at the same price point. we are in this weird state where the used CPU market hasn't adjusted for the new CPU market making new CPU's the smarter buy most of the time.

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