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If looks is NOT considered

so many fans to do push pull configuration on the radiator and fill in all the fan slots btw.

 

To give performance per dollar some care:

that fan's a rear exhaust fan, use the stock case fans on the top.

 

To look fancy and perform well:

My thought is to mount the air pressure fans in the front of the radiator (behind the air filter of the case), the stock radiator fans behind the radiator for pulling air, and the remaining air balance fans for the top and back. All CM fans so they look the same.

 

Decided to build a computer my self for the first time wanted to go with something that will last a while

Budget USD $2500

Mainly for gaming and light classwork

Will also be overclocking in the future

(ignore amazon pricing was seeing how fast everything could get to me amazon prices would be appreciated but not a huge concern)

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($399.89 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($238.89 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($127.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($80.17 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card  ($779.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair - 750D Airflow Edition ATX Full Tower Case  ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA P2 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($161.73 @ Amazon)
Total: $2328.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-04 21:25 EST-0500

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how much are you into RGB?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

how much are you into RGB?

RGB is a plus but not really required mainly going for performance

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($399.89 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ULTRA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($238.62 @ Amazon) 
Memory: V-Color - SKYWALKER PRISM RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($114.33 @ Newegg) 
Storage: HP - EX900 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($85.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($58.50 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC WHITE Video Card  ($749.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define S2 Black – TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($144.61 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $1986.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-04 22:02 EST-0500

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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If looks is NOT considered

so many fans to do push pull configuration on the radiator and fill in all the fan slots btw.

 

To give performance per dollar some care:

that fan's a rear exhaust fan, use the stock case fans on the top.

 

To look fancy and perform well:

My thought is to mount the air pressure fans in the front of the radiator (behind the air filter of the case), the stock radiator fans behind the radiator for pulling air, and the remaining air balance fans for the top and back. All CM fans so they look the same.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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35 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

If looks is NOT considered

so many fans to do push pull configuration on the radiator and fill in all the fan slots btw.

 

To give performance per dollar some care:

that fan's a rear exhaust fan, use the stock case fans on the top.

 

To look fancy and perform well:

My thought is to mount the air pressure fans in the front of the radiator (behind the air filter of the case), the stock radiator fans behind the radiator for pulling air, and the remaining air balance fans for the top and back. All CM fans so they look the same.

 

 

Do you think the first and last build will run cool enough when i OC the i9 because heard that they run pretty hot and how easy is the process to OC on that gigabyte board? I have Been hearing that the bios can be a pain to work with compared to the ASUS ones thats why i chose that one in my original post.

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19 minutes ago, cerimm said:

Do you think the first and last build will run cool enough when i OC the i9 because heard that they run pretty hot

the 9900k is a cooling limited chip, unless you build custom water loop with bigger radiators and higher liquid flow rate, as well as delidding and sanding off the top of the die you will be hitting the temperature limit before the voltage limit. the ML360R and other similarly performing coolers are as good as it gets without all the mess.

 

19 minutes ago, cerimm said:

how easy is the process to OC on that gigabyte board?

Once you found out where all the settings are, it's not difficult. The mid range VRM on the Asus Z390-E/F is what puts me off, they'll get way too hot when overclocking the 9900k, You can adapt to a bad BIOS but can't solve weak hardware.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

the 9900k is a cooling limited chip, unless you build custom water loop with bigger radiators and higher liquid flow rate, as well as delidding and sanding off the top of the die you will be hitting the temperature limit before the voltage limit. the ML360R and other similarly performing coolers are as good as it gets without all the mess.

How far do you think I would be able to push it if at all with this kind of cooling without thermal throttling being an issue?

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5 minutes ago, cerimm said:

How far do you think I would be able to push it if at all with this kind of cooling without thermal throttling being an issue?

1.3V is definitely fine, 1.35V starts to depend on your ambient temperature. See how far you can go in voltage.

 

I dont know frequency because that's mostly silicon lottery based. I do not guarantee 5GHz because I've seen people throw tantrums when they get a crap chip

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

1.3V is definitely fine, 1.35V starts to depend on your ambient temperature. See how far you can go in voltage.

 

I dont know frequency because that's mostly silicon lottery based. I do not guarantee 5GHz because I've seen people throw tantrums when they get a crap chip

Thanks for the info going to help me a lot going into this build!

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