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144hz monitor only goes up to 120 fps?

Eggarro

Hello. I recently built my new gaming pc, and set up my monitor and everything. All was going quite well until I realized that, after turning on my fps counter on the monitor, it only went up to 120 frames per second. I tested this on a few games, and no matter the graphics quality, the fps never went above 120, on both in game counters and monitor ones. I used a cap of 144 fps in the games, and then no cap. I got the exact same result. In the monitor settings, I can only go up to 120hz!

 

Help!

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What monitor, what cable?

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The problem is probably  the HDMI cable. I would suggest getting a Displayport one, because HDMI doesn't support higher than 120, at least on the older versions. Monitor is fine.

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2 minutes ago, handymanshandle said:

What GPU do you own?

 

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2 minutes ago, hiitswilliam said:

Yeah. The cable or monitor can often cap off the frame rate.

 

So... what can I do about it?

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2 minutes ago, hiitswilliam said:

The problem is probably  the HDMI cable. I would suggest getting a Displayport one, because HDMI doesn't support higher than 120, at least on the older versions. Monitor is fine.

Certain monitors are limited to 120 Hz over HDMI, others aren't (with the same version). It's a limitation of certain monitors, not a limitation of the HDMI standard.

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1 minute ago, Glenwing said:

Certain monitors are limited to 120 Hz over HDMI, others aren't (with the same version). It's a limitation of certain monitors, not a limitation of the HDMI standard.

 

But my monitor is 144hz, so wouldn't the issue be the cable?

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3 minutes ago, Eggarro said:

But my monitor is 144hz, so wouldn't the issue be the cable?

Your monitor only supports 144 Hz over DisplayPort. It is limited to 120 Hz over HDMI.

 

This restriction is not imposed by the HDMI standard, it is specific to your monitor.

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2 minutes ago, Glenwing said:

You need to use DisplayPort.

 

Sorry, kind of new to all of this cable stuff. Does that mean I just use a different port, or do I also need a different cable?

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1 minute ago, Eggarro said:

 

Sorry, kind of new to all of this cable stuff. Does that mean I just use a different port, or do I also need a different cable?

Here is a cable: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Feet-Resolution/dp/B005H3Q59U

You need a new cable, the HDMI one won't support 144 hz. It plugs into a different port than the HDMI, but you should be able to find that port just fine on both the GPU and monitor.

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Just now, Eggarro said:

 

Sorry, kind of new to all of this cable stuff. Does that mean I just use a different port, or do I also need a different cable?

Different cable and different port. The monitor should have come with a DP cable included.

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Just now, Glenwing said:

Different cable and different port. The monitor should have come with a DP cable included.

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Just now, Tristerin said:

Im 12 mentally every time I come across a thread that mentions this cable...I snicker.  Cant help it.

why?

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5 minutes ago, Glenwing said:

Different cable and different port. The monitor should have come with a DP cable included.

 

6 minutes ago, hiitswilliam said:

Here is a cable: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Feet-Resolution/dp/B005H3Q59U

You need a new cable, the HDMI one won't support 144 hz. It plugs into a different port than the HDMI, but you should be able to find that port just fine on both the GPU and monitor.

Ok. Thanks guys! Really appreciated the help.

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4 minutes ago, hiitswilliam said:

why?

If you don't know why, you aren't 12 yet ;).  I don't want to ruin it for you lol

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On 1/3/2019 at 11:34 AM, Tristerin said:

If you don't know why, you aren't 12 yet ;).  I don't want to ruin it for you lol

Why?

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3 hours ago, Eggarro said:

Why?

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@Eggarro

Just an aside, might want to do a frame skip test on blurbusters for the VG278Q, I have the same monitor and it's smoother at 120hz anyways. 

 

144hz

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120hz

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On 1/27/2019 at 2:05 AM, CorruptedSanity said:

@Eggarro

Just an aside, might want to do a frame skip test on blurbusters for the VG278Q, I have the same monitor and it's smoother at 120hz anyways. 

 

144hz

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120hz

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Ok. Thanks! Does the site explain how everything works, since the pictures look kind of confusing 

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Look at the trails. Shorter the better; your monitor pixel refreSH RATE can’t keep up to the 144hz. Thus the trails. Or ghosting.

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On 2/15/2019 at 9:42 AM, Eggarro said:

 

Ok. Thanks! Does the site explain how everything works, since the pictures look kind of confusing 

Yes, there are some instructions at the top of the page.

2 hours ago, Loadent said:

Look at the trails. Shorter the better; your monitor pixel refreSH RATE can’t keep up to the 144hz. Thus the trails. Or ghosting.

 

The trails are because of the exposure of the camera, an exposure of 1/10 of a second at 120hz equals 12 frames being refreshed while the shutter is open.  If I had set it to 1/6 exposure you'd see 20 boxes lit (120\6).

 

If you do this test and have a broken trail (like the 144hz photo I posted) that means the monitor basically can't refresh fast enough and "skips," frames. It is very apparent now that I've switched between 144-120hz on my monitor.

 

EDIT

Just tried the test again at 144hz, turning g-sync compatible turned on and after a restart.  It didn't frameskip anymore!  1/10th exposure, 14.4 boxes lit.

 

144hz w/ G-Sync Compatible turned on

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He has to make sure vsync is set to OFF, also set to OFF in game.  Or don't use the FAST option in vsync.. just turn vysnc on.  Your refresh has has nothing to do with what happens with frame rates.  Turn vsync off like I said and see if you can get passed 120fps and into high AAA famre rates.

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