new build

[Carnage.]

i need help coming up with a build list for a gaming pc, i might do some streaming and video editing but very rarely. i have a budget of AUD$2000

[Kiyometa]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$269.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$69.99 @ B&H
Motherboard	MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$98.98 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$129.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$147.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	$498.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case	NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case	$64.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$82.89 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1382.82
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1362.82
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-05 23:58 EST-0500

Plus some room to move about and shipping

Edited December 6, 2018 by Kiyometa
more info

[Carnage.]

3 minutes ago, Kiyometa said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$269.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$69.99 @ B&H
Motherboard	MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$98.98 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$129.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$147.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	$498.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case	NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case	$64.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$82.89 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1382.82
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1362.82
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-05 23:58 EST-0500

Plus some room to move about and shipping

ok thanks

 

[Fnige]

If you do have time, id say wait for Ryzen Gen 3 since...

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Lower End:

 

Ryzen 3 3300: 6C/12T //  Base: 3.2 GHz //  Boost: 4.0 GHz // 50 W TDP // Price: 99$

Ryzen 3 3300X: 6C/12T //  Base: 3.5 GHz //  Boost: 4.3 GHz // 65 W TDP // Price: 129$

Ryzen 3 3300G: 6C/12T/ 15CU (Navi) //  Base: 3.0 GHz //  Boost: 3.8 GHz // 65 W TDP // Price: 129$

 

Mid Range:

 

Ryzen 5 3600: 8C/16T //  Base: 3.6 GHz //  Boost: 4.4 GHz // 65 W TDP // Price: 179$

Ryzen 5 3600X: 8C/16T //  Base: 4.0 GHz //  Boost: 4.8 GHz // 95 W TDP // Price: 229$

Ryzen 5 3600G: 8C/16T/ 20CU (Navi) //  Base: 3.2 GHz //  Boost: 4.0 GHz // 95 W TDP // Price: 199$

 

Upper Mid Range:

 

Ryzen 7 3700: 12C/24T //  Base: 3.8 GHz //  Boost: 4.6 GHz // 95 W TDP // Price: 299$

Ryzen 7 3700X: 12C/24T //  Base: 4.2 GHz //  Boost: 5.0 GHz // 95 W TDP // Price: 329$

 

High End:

 

Ryzen 9 3800X: 16C/32T //  Base: 3.9 GHz //  Boost: 4.7GHz // 125 W TDP // Price: 449$

Ryzen 9 3850X: 16C/32T //  Base: 4.3 GHz //  Boost: 5.1GHz // 135 W TDP // Price: 499$

Note: these are leaks and may not be true

[ATFink]

What resolution is you computer monitor, or do you want a monitor in the budget at all?

 

Do have peripherals already (keyboard, mouse, headphones, microphone, monitor), or do you want new ones in the list?

 

Are you going to overclock?

[ATFink]

41 minutes ago, Kiyometa said:

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38 minutes ago, Carnage. said:

ok thanks

That list was posted using the American filter for PCPartPicker. Don't use that. Use a list that was generated using PCPartPicker's Australia filter so the parts are sourced from retailers in your area. You'll get much better deals.

 

I'll make a list as soon as you answer my questions from earlier in the thread.

[Carnage.]

28 minutes ago, ATFink said:

That list was posted using the American filter for PCPartPicker. Don't use that. Use a list that was generated using PCPartPicker's Australia filter so the parts are sourced from retailers in your area. You'll get much better deals.

 

I'll make a list as soon as you answer my questions from earlier in the thread.

1080p 144hz at the max. it doesnt have to be in the budget

i have keyboard and mouse already

i might later down the track if i ever need the extra performance but for right now, i wont be

 

[ATFink]

I say wait until CES in January 2019 to hear information about 7 nm Ryzen developments. I made some lists just in case you don't want to wait:

 

List 1: RTX 2070 with better case, good storage solution, more powerful CPU and CPU cooling solution.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor	$469.00 @ Umart
Motherboard	MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.00 @ Scorptec
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$189.00 @ IJK
Storage	Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$209.00 @ IJK
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	$759.59 @ Amazon Australia
Case	Fractal Design - Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$119.00 @ Umart
Power Supply	be quiet! - Pure Power 11 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$119.00 @ PCCaseGear
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2013.59
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-06 17:19 AEDT+1100

Since you're only doing 1080p an RTX 2070 is plenty to max out the monitor refresh rate. I advise you use this build.

 

List 2: RTX 2080 with cheapish case, lacking storage, and less powerful CPU and CPU cooling solution.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$212.00 @ Amazon Australia
Motherboard	MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.00 @ Scorptec
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$189.00 @ IJK
Storage	Crucial - BX500 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$98.00 @ Umart
Video Card	MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB DUKE Video Card	$1213.85 @ Amazon Australia
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$58.00 @ Umart
Power Supply	be quiet! - Pure Power 11 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$119.00 @ PCCaseGear
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2038.85
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-06 17:08 AEDT+1100

This list incorporates a more powerful GPU at the expense of half the storage, a less powerful CPU and CPU cooling solution, and the case is cheaper. I don't think you'll notice any benefit from the RTX 2080 over an RTX 2070 since an RTX 2070 is going to max out the monitor anyways. If you want a multi-monitor setup or plan to upgrade the monitor to a 144 Hz 1440p or better you may consider this list.

[Carnage.]

1 minute ago, ATFink said:

I say wait until CES in January 2019 to hear information about 7 nm Ryzen developments. I made some lists just in case you don't want to wait:

 

List 1: RTX 2070 with better case, good storage solution, more powerful CPU and CPU cooling solution.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor	$469.00 @ Umart
Motherboard	MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.00 @ Scorptec
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$189.00 @ IJK
Storage	Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$209.00 @ IJK
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	$759.59 @ Amazon Australia
Case	Fractal Design - Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$119.00 @ Umart
Power Supply	be quiet! - Pure Power 11 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$119.00 @ PCCaseGear
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2013.59
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-06 17:19 AEDT+1100

Since you're only doing 1080p an RTX 2070 is plenty to max out the monitor refresh rate. I advise you use this build.

 

List 2: RTX 2080 with cheapish case, lacking storage, and less powerful CPU and CPU cooling solution.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$212.00 @ Amazon Australia
Motherboard	MSI - B450M MORTAR Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.00 @ Scorptec
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$189.00 @ IJK
Storage	Crucial - BX500 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$98.00 @ Umart
Video Card	MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB DUKE Video Card	$1213.85 @ Amazon Australia
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$58.00 @ Umart
Power Supply	be quiet! - Pure Power 11 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$119.00 @ PCCaseGear
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2038.85
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-06 17:08 AEDT+1100

This list incorporates a more powerful GPU at the expense of half the storage, a less powerful CPU and CPU cooling solution, and the case is cheaper. I don't think you'll notice any benefit from the RTX 2080 over an RTX 2070 since an RTX 2070 is going to max out the monitor anyways. If you want a multi-monitor setup or plan to upgrade the monitor to a 144 Hz 1440p or better you may consider this list.

they look good thanks, i might go over my budget so i can incorprate both the better gpu and cpu as i will end up with a multi-monitor set . up

[Carnage.]

6 minutes ago, ATFink said:

I say wait until CES in January 2019 t

also would you say its worth waiting? cause if so i will. but i will get the rest of my build together in the mean time

 

[ATFink]

1 minute ago, Carnage. said:

they look good thanks, i might go over my budget so i can incorprate both the better gpu and cpu as i will end up with a multi-monitor set . up

Even still the RTX 2070 is still probably fine. If the primary monitor is 144 Hz but the secondary monitor(s) are 1080p 60 Hz or less you're still fine. If you do multi-screen gaming go with the better GPU build. 

[Carnage.]

1 minute ago, ATFink said:

Even still the RTX 2070 is still probably fine. If the primary monitor is 144 Hz but the secondary monitor(s) are 1080p 60 Hz or less you're still fine. If you do multi-screen gaming go with the better GPU build. 

the second monitor wouldnt be for gaming, more like if im streaming editing or web browsing

i would do it all on there while im gaming

 

[ATFink]

Just now, Carnage. said:

also would you say its worth waiting? cause if so i will. but i will get the rest of my build together in the mean time

 

Ehhh, hard to say. The leaks looks REALLY good though.

 

Prices change a lot over time. If you're going to wait then wait make sure you buy the GPU, motherboard, and CPU at  the same time. All else can be purchased now.

[ATFink]

Just now, Carnage. said:

the second monitor wouldnt be for gaming, more like if im streaming editing or web browsing

i would do it all on there while im gaming

 

Oh, RTX 2070 then.

[Carnage.]

Just now, ATFink said:

Ehhh, hard to say. The leaks looks REALLY good though.

 

Prices change a lot over time. If you're going to wait then wait make sure you buy the GPU, motherboard, and CPU at  the same time. All else can be purchased now.

alright i will wait till then and get my other parts soon

 

[Carnage.]

Just now, ATFink said:

Oh, RTX 2070 then.

alright cool, i will go witht he first build you showed me then, i will get the other parts and wait. why would i wait and get thye gpu with the cpu. also is it worth investing in a g-sync monitor down the track

[ATFink]

3 minutes ago, Carnage. said:

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is it worth investing in a g-sync monitor down the track

I don't think so. The price hike for Gsync is too much to make sense to me. I have an AMD GPU and a freesync monitor and can confirm adaptive sync is pretty cool, but it's not the biggest deal in the world. It's nice as a kicker since freesync compatible monitors have a similar price to non-freesync counterparts, but not worth too much IMO. You'd have to see Gsync working in person yourself to make that decision. Be warned, Gsync will probably add at least $400 AUD to the cost of the monitor you're looking at.

 

7 minutes ago, Carnage. said:

why would i wait and get thye gpu with the cpu.

GPU prices will come down if AMD releases Navi 12 in January. Absolutely no confirmation about that at this time, just some leaked info that can be wrong.

 

Check out these threads for more information:

^Take this with a large grain of salt

^This leak has some more substance to it.

[ATFink]

23 minutes ago, Carnage. said:

alright cool, i will go witht he first build you showed me then, i will get the other parts and wait. why would i wait and get thye gpu with the cpu. also is it worth investing in a g-sync monitor down the track

Just remember that the 7nm Ryzen CPUs may not release in January. It's probably just an announcement, but I still think it's worth the wait just in case the parts do release. We only have leaks to go on. We'll know more by late December because some supplier is bound to let it slip with a listing if some 7nm Ryzen parts will come out in January.

[Carnage.]

20 minutes ago, ATFink said:

Just remember that the 7nm Ryzen CPUs may not release in January. It's probably just an announcement, but I still think it's worth the wait just in case the parts do release. We only have leaks to go on. We'll know more by late December because some supplier is bound to let it slip with a listing if some 7nm Ryzen parts will come out in January.

alright cool thank you for the help