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Should I return my 1080 TI and take a 2080 instead ?

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Hello,

 

I have recently bought (end of November)  a MSI GTX 1080 Ti GAMING (non X).

I got it for 700 EUR (new). 

I want to upgrade my graphic card because I have a GTX 970 (also MSI) and it's not that great considering I have a 144Hz 1440p monitor.

The most annoying part with the GTX 970 (after performance) is the noise. In most games it is at full load and thus fans are fully spinning. I want to improve that.

Other PC parts (CPU and PSU) are already very silent (even at full load).

 

I have the opportunity to buy a 2080 MSI GAMING TRIO X for 780 EUR (new).

I am considering returning the 1080 TI and take the 2080 instead. I can still return it, I just received package which took long time to came home, not opened yet.

 

Here is list of advantages I can see with 2080 :

- Less noise. The 2080 has 3 fans and a bigger heatsink than the 1080 TI.

- Slightly better performance (X version is overclocked version and 2080 is slightly more faster than 1080 TI).

- DLSS and raytracing : I don't really care about those ones.

 

One issue is reliability : it seems (not confirmed) lof of people have issues with new RTX cards. It seems to hit 2080 TI mainly.

I am not sure how 2080 are impacted. There is not official numbers about this yet.

 

Main reason for me to switch is the noise. Will it be considerably more silent ?

 

Guru3D give the following rate noise levels (full load) : 

2080 MSI TRIO : 35 DB (link)

1080 MSI TI : 38 DB (link)

970 MSI (the one I have) : 39 DB (link)

 

Thanks in advance

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i mean, i think that if you don't mind the RTX card price hike, it's worth it. 

 

and the 2080 wasn't really affected by the same issue as the 2080 ti.  

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(before i sold the WD drive and MSI gpu - https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11946219 171 gaming. felt good.)

 

Rig 2: i7-7700k Stock clocks | MSI Armor GTX 1070 | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 2x8GB | MSI Z270 A-Pro | WD Green 240GB SSD & 2TB Seagate HDD | Thermaltake Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition | Win 10 Home | 2 HP Omen FHD 144hz 24.5" Monitors 

 

Rig 3: i7-6700 | GT 730 & GT 645 OEM | Some random DDR4 2133mhz 2x8gb sticks | OEM Dell Mobo | WD Black 2TB HDD & Toshiba 1TB HDD | Win 10 Home | 3 27" Dell FHD Monitors 

 

Rig 4: i7-4770 | EVGA SSC 1050ti | Some random DDR3 ram 2x2gb and 2x4gb sticks | OEM Dell Mobo | Stock Cooler | 1TB WD Black HDD | Win 7 Home 

 

RIP 

 

Rig 5 (dead and dismantled and sold) : i7-7820X OC'd to 4.8ghz all core | MSI DUKE 1080ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 4x8gb | Gigabyte X299 UD4 PRO | Asetek 240mm AIO | WD Green 240gb SSD | Other various components that I can't remember

 

Rig 6 (same fate as rig 5) : i7-8700k stock clocks | MSI DUKE 1080ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 2x8gb | MSI Z370 A-Pro | Asetek 550LC 120mm | WD Green 240GB SSD & Toshiba 2TB HDD | Other various components that I can't Remember 

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43 minutes ago, TH3R34P3R said:

i mean, i think that if you don't mind the RTX card price hike, it's worth it. 

 

and the 2080 wasn't really affected by the same issue as the 2080 ti.  

^^^

 

47 minutes ago, Tigrou said:

Less noise. The 2080 has 3 fans and a bigger heatsink than the 1080 TI.

Don't think it works that way, I think they actually run hotter and that's why they have such thick heatsinks, because they actually need them. They'll probably be about as quiet as 1080 Tis with their respective heatsinks, and my MSI Gaming X one isn't very loud at all, even under full load (it does have a thicker heatsink, but EVGA and ASUS Strix cards perform about the same with slightly thinner heatsinks, it's all down to how the engineers use said fin stack). 

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2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Don't think it works that way, I think they actually run hotter and that's why they have such thick heatsinks, because they actually need them. They'll probably be about as quiet as 1080 Tis with their respective heatsinks, and my MSI Gaming X one isn't very loud at all, even under full load (it does have a thicker heatsink, but EVGA and ASUS Strix cards perform about the same with slightly thinner heatsinks, it's all down to how the engineers use said fin stack). 

i mean... i had 2 MSI duke cards... a 2080ti and a 1080ti. now granted the 2080ti is a BIGGER card than the 1080ti, the RTX card ran COOLER by a whole 5 degrees when compared to the GTX version of the duke, with no fans on. if you consider that and use the slightly cooler version, the 2080, the 2080 should be much cooler than the 1080ti. 

 

(just using inferences about my experiences with the dukes 2 variations.)

Rig 1: i7-9700k OC'd to 5.0ghz all core | EVGA XC RTX 2080Ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 4x8gb | ASUS PRIME Z370-P | Asetek 550LC 120mm | ADATA 480GB SSD & Toshiba P300 3TB | Cooler Master Masterbox MB500 | Win 10 Home | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum, G502 Proteus Spectrum, G933 Artemis Spectrum Snow Wireless Limited Edition, Corsair MM300 Mouse Pad | 2 MSI Optix Curved 27" FHD Monitors 

 

(before i sold the WD drive and MSI gpu - https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11946219 171 gaming. felt good.)

 

Rig 2: i7-7700k Stock clocks | MSI Armor GTX 1070 | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 2x8GB | MSI Z270 A-Pro | WD Green 240GB SSD & 2TB Seagate HDD | Thermaltake Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition | Win 10 Home | 2 HP Omen FHD 144hz 24.5" Monitors 

 

Rig 3: i7-6700 | GT 730 & GT 645 OEM | Some random DDR4 2133mhz 2x8gb sticks | OEM Dell Mobo | WD Black 2TB HDD & Toshiba 1TB HDD | Win 10 Home | 3 27" Dell FHD Monitors 

 

Rig 4: i7-4770 | EVGA SSC 1050ti | Some random DDR3 ram 2x2gb and 2x4gb sticks | OEM Dell Mobo | Stock Cooler | 1TB WD Black HDD | Win 7 Home 

 

RIP 

 

Rig 5 (dead and dismantled and sold) : i7-7820X OC'd to 4.8ghz all core | MSI DUKE 1080ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 4x8gb | Gigabyte X299 UD4 PRO | Asetek 240mm AIO | WD Green 240gb SSD | Other various components that I can't remember

 

Rig 6 (same fate as rig 5) : i7-8700k stock clocks | MSI DUKE 1080ti | ADATA DDR4 2400mhz 2x8gb | MSI Z370 A-Pro | Asetek 550LC 120mm | WD Green 240GB SSD & Toshiba 2TB HDD | Other various components that I can't Remember 

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3 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

^^^

 

Don't think it works that way, I think they actually run hotter and that's why they have such thick heatsinks, because they actually need them. They'll probably be about as quiet as 1080 Tis with their respective heatsinks, and my MSI Gaming X one isn't very loud at all, even under full load (it does have a thicker heatsink, but EVGA and ASUS Strix cards perform about the same with slightly thinner heatsinks, it's all down to how the engineers use said fin stack). 

In a perfect world, I would have taken a 1080 TI MSI GAMING X TRIO OR ASUS ROG STRIX. Those ones have a bigger heatsink than my MSI 1080 TI (similar to 2080 MSI X TRIO). However, they were quite expensive (about 800-900 EUR new back then) . Now, they are almost impossible to find new at decent prices.

 

About 2080 being hotter : on one side they are using 12nm instead of 16nm (so they probably generate less heat at same clock speed). On another side, NVidia removed a lot of processing units in their 2080 (comparing to the 1080 TI) to make some room for those RTX transistors. That's probably why they had to clock 2080 slightly faster than 1080 TI to match performance (depsite turing being slightly better than pascal).

 

EDIT : from Guru3D (full load)

2080 MSI X TRIO : 63 degrees

1080 TI MSI X TRIO : 68 degrees

1080 TI MSI : 69 degrees

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6 hours ago, Tigrou said:

Hello,

 

I have recently bought (end of November)  a MSI GTX 1080 Ti GAMING (non X).

I got it for 700 EUR (new). 

I want to upgrade my graphic card because I have a GTX 970 (also MSI) and it's not that great considering I have a 144Hz 1440p monitor.

The most annoying part with the GTX 970 (after performance) is the noise. In most games it is at full load and thus fans are fully spinning. I want to improve that.

Other PC parts (CPU and PSU) are already very silent (even at full load).

 

I have the opportunity to buy a 2080 MSI GAMING TRIO X for 780 EUR (new).

I am considering returning the 1080 TI and take the 2080 instead. I can still return it, I just received package which took long time to came home, not opened yet.

 

Here is list of advantages I can see with 2080 :

- Less noise. The 2080 has 3 fans and a bigger heatsink than the 1080 TI.

- Slightly better performance (X version is overclocked version and 2080 is slightly more faster than 1080 TI).

- DLSS and raytracing : I don't really care about those ones.

 

One issue is reliability : it seems (not confirmed) lof of people have issues with new RTX cards. It seems to hit 2080 TI mainly.

I am not sure how 2080 are impacted. There is not official numbers about this yet.

 

Main reason for me to switch is the noise. Will it be considerably more silent ?

 

Guru3D give the following rate noise levels (full load) : 

2080 MSI TRIO : 35 DB (link)

1080 MSI TI : 38 DB (link)

970 MSI (the one I have) : 39 DB (link)

 

Thanks in advance

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