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Hi

 

First post here, see if i can make myself understood ?

 

Short story. I have found LinusTechTips and JayTwoCents on Youtube and have finally started to understand my computer. Some upgrades and overclocking have been done

 

But now it seem that my motherboard is the limiting factor for me

 

Bought my computer used a couple of years back. It got a Asus B85 Plus motherboard with a Intel i5 4670k on it. Got it overclocked to 3.9GHz (think i read thats the limit of the motherboard, but found that text once and then never again) and all above that makes the computer just shut it self off. No problems with booting up again. Temperatures during stresstests is around 70c. Got a Hyper 212 Evo cooling

 

So my question is first:

1. Is it possible to go over that threshold on my motherboard?

2. Which motherboard can I else switch to, to get some more options?

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Before anything, update the motherboard's BIOS first.

 

1. Need more voltage to the CPU. CPU core voltage and CPU input voltage are both needed to be changed.

 

2. Dont need to.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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41 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Before anything, update the motherboard's BIOS first.

 

1. Need more voltage to the CPU. CPU core voltage and CPU input voltage are both needed to be changed.

 

2. Dont need to.

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That´s done, before that i couldnt do much. The voltage i tried the otherday, but even if i went up to 1.400v, it randomly turned off the computer. All above 3,9GHz does that :s

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10 minutes ago, SgtEriksson said:

That´s done, before that i couldnt do much. The voltage i tried the otherday, but even if i went up to 1.400v, it randomly turned off the computer. All above 3,9GHz does that :s

CPU input voltage at 1.4V is definitely going to do that :P You need at least 1.9V on that for 1.4V CPU core voltage.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

CPU input voltage at 1.4V is definitely going to do that :P You need at least 1.9V on that for 1.4V CPU core voltage.

Okay. But why does it work well at 1.2 volt at 3.9GHz? Not good at this :s

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2 hours ago, SgtEriksson said:

Okay. But why does it work well at 1.2 volt at 3.9GHz? Not good at this :s

First of all, do you know that CPU input voltage (Vccin) and CPU core voltage (Vcore) are different things?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 hours ago, SgtEriksson said:

It got a Asus B85 Plus motherboard with a Intel i5 4670k on it. Got it overclocked to 3.9GHz

 B85 mobo does not support OC  even you have a K chip. you may be able to lock all cores to turbo boost clock. thats all.

you need a Zxxx mobo to OC 

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On 10/2/2018 at 11:16 AM, Jurrunio said:

First of all, do you know that CPU input voltage (Vccin) and CPU core voltage (Vcore) are different things?

Cant find it, not in plain text at least 

https://prnt.sc/l2fsyf

http://prntscr.com/l2ftbp

On 10/2/2018 at 11:37 AM, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

 B85 mobo does not support OC  even you have a K chip. you may be able to lock all cores to turbo boost clock. thats all.

you need a Zxxx mobo to OC 

Sounds like something i read somewhere else. Got it to 3,9 but higher then that and it´s not happy at all :P

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30 minutes ago, SgtEriksson said:

Cant find it, not in plain text at least 

https://prnt.sc/l2fsyf

http://prntscr.com/l2ftbp

3CgAUxD.png

 

On 10/2/2018 at 2:37 AM, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

 B85 mobo does not support OC  even you have a K chip. you may be able to lock all cores to turbo boost clock. thats all.

you need a Zxxx mobo to OC 

After G3258's release, Intel basically unlocked all 1150 mobo for overclocking regardless of chipset.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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7 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

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Was on that, didnt understand that i needed to use my keyboard, and not select with my mouse. Thanks!

 

It starts with 0.800 as lowest and xan go up to 2.700 volts. How shall I think here. Go up with 0.05? 0.1 and see if it works?

 

Exampel. Up to 0.900 input and up to 1.300 on the CPU?

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2 minutes ago, SgtEriksson said:

Was on that, didnt understand that i needed to use my keyboard, and not select with my mouse. Thanks!

 

It starts with 0.800 as lowest and xan go up to 2.700 volts. How shall I think here. Go up with 0.05? 0.1 and see if it works?

 

Exampel. Up to 0.900 input and up to 1.300 on the CPU?

Vccin needs to be at least 0.5V higher than Vcore, so 1.3V Vcore should respond to 1.8V Vccin. Vccin can take more though, when I'm lazy I'd just slap 2V on it.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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16 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Vccin needs to be at least 0.5V higher than Vcore, so 1.3V Vcore should respond to 1.8V Vccin. Vccin can take more though, when I'm lazy I'd just slap 2V on it.

Okay, will try and see where it leads :) Thanks

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Hi again

Thanks for the help. Have manged to get it to 4.1 so far without crashing. Will test some more and see if i can get 4.2GHz without crashes :) All over that and i think the heat will be to high

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Hi once more. 

Don´t get higher speeds working without crashes. Only in Prime95, Cinebench works fine. Tried increasing VCCIN to 1,950. At 2,000 the motherboard goes to red text :o
1,450v to CPU, but as said, wont work. Temperature playing is 75c, so i think i can go higher

Im quite happy with it, but wanna go to the limit :P

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