7900x, 7820x, or 8700k

[wbingham]

Primary Usage For This Built:

• 1080p and 4K Video Production (YouTube and Personal)
• Adobe Photoshop, Vegas Studio 15
• Moderate Gaming (mostly MMOs and RPS.  Not a shooter fan)
• Streaming gameplay (x264 1080p) while recording locally (1440p NVENC 160k bitrate) for editing later
• Possibly VR eventually

 

I'm trying to decide which CPU to upgrade from my current 6700k.  I get get Intel chips at ~50% price so they end up being a better value than AMD options as well.

 

For post-edit rendering, I understand that its better to use CUDA rendering than CPU anyway, so I am more worried about being able to stream at high quality with the least amount of effect on personal gameplay FPS.  

 

I am also planning on re-encoding my movie library (>1000 movies) from 1080p x264 to HEVC as well as re-ripping all of my Music CDs to FLAC (now that I got a Receiver that plays them over network).  I am a movie buff as well so I will continue to rip my movies BluRay and UHD to my Plex library quite regularly.

 

I like the x299 platform for the productivity stuff I'll be doing, along with the AVX boost and it seems to game "good enough" for me (still over 120 FPS in AAA titles) compared to the 8700k.  But I'm not sure I need the full 10c/20t option compared to just going with the 7820x and saving myself $200  ($297 vs $475).  However, If the 8700k is capable of the audio/video work I'll be doing the small gaming boost for when I'm not streaming/editing would be nice as well and is another $100 cheaper compared to the 7820x ($205 vs $297).

 

My biggest concern with the Coffee Lake option is that it's more of a dead end platform.  x299 offers me upgrade options for I9 chips as well as more than likely being compatible with next gen HEDT chips, since the Enthusiast line usually lasts 2+ generations.

[LienusLateTips]

8700K or 7900X. Next gen HEDT will probably be on another socket. Both are kinda dead end...

[Crunchy Dragon]

8700K or 7900X would be the best choices, but I would recommend waiting until the next generation after Intel fixes the security bug if possible.

[BlueCrazii]

I think that the 7900x is a good balance between the editing and gaming power those extra cpu cores will also help with the encoding of stream/rendering productions.

 

But if you dont need those 2 extra cores and pcie lines 7900x: 44 7820x: 28 (10Gig network,HBA Card for more storage ?).

[Unimaginative Name]

Just now, JDE said:

8700K or 7900X. Next gen HEDT will probably be on another socket. Both are kinda dead end...

Didn't they just release the X299 chipset and socket 2066? I don't think that will be dead end unless I missed something big.

 

[arnavvr]

7900X imo, at 50% off it is a really solid option

[dizmo]

No love for Ryzen?

I wouldn't go with Intel because it's a flawed chip.

[Unimaginative Name]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

No love for Ryzen?

I wouldn't go with Intel because it's a flawed chip.

That was my first reaction as well but...

13 minutes ago, wbingham said:

• I get get Intel chips at ~50% price so they end up being a better value than AMD options as well.

 

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

4 minutes ago, Unimaginative Name said:

Didn't they just release the X299 chipset and socket 2066? I don't think that will be dead end unless I missed something big.

X299's been out  for some time, 8700K hit last November.

 

That said, Z370 is only around for Coffee Lake, and X299 probably won't be around for a whole lot longer.

[Daniel Z.]

8700k from your options, but 1700 or 1920X would be better for a reasonable price.

 

i would go 7900x if I get it for half price

[dizmo]

2 minutes ago, Unimaginative Name said:

That was my first reaction as well but...

 

See, for me, that wouldn't matter. I'd rather know it's secure. Each to their own though.

[Unimaginative Name]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

X299's been out  for some time, 8700K hit last November.

 

That said, Z370 is only around for Coffee Lake, and X299 probably won't be around for a whole lot longer.

X299 was released in June 2017, it's been out 6 months. The X99 platform lasted three years. What am I missing?

I understand that the Z370 platform is more volatile in terms of upgrade path, but X299?

2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

See, for me, that wouldn't matter. I'd rather know it's secure. Each to their own though.

As far as I know, Meltdown has been patched on Intel platforms and Spectre also affects AMD chips.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Unimaginative Name said:

X299 was released in June 2017, it's been out 6 months. The X99 platform lasted three years. What am I missing?

I understand that the Z370 platform is more volatile in terms of upgrade path, but X299?

Like I said, X299 has been out for some time. X99 was different, we might not see X299 last as long(Z370 made changes to the power delivery system which is mostly why Coffee Lake can't be run easily on older boards although modders have been able to run an i3-8350K on a Z270 board).

 

Again, Z370 is only sticking around for this generation. After that, you'll need a 400-series board unless a BIOS update is enough to run 9th Gen.

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, Unimaginative Name said:

X299 was released in June 2017, it's been out 6 months. The X99 platform lasted three years. What am I missing?

I understand that the Z370 platform is more volatile in terms of upgrade path, but X299?

As far as I know, Meltdown has been patched on Intel platforms and Spectre also affects AMD chips.

Exactly. A patch. It's a hardware issue, that has a bandaid software fix. All it takes is dismantling the patch, and figuring out a new way in. It'll never be properly fixed until they change the chips architecture.

Meltdown is the one I'd be worried about. It only affects AMD if the infiltrator is local. If they're already in my house, the damage is done. Intel is remotely accessible. Much different.

[wbingham]

The only reason I care,about PCI lanes right now would,be for x16 SLI.  The MB I'm looking at,for x299 already has WhIg and I have a 40TB home NAS already for Plex and other storage so wouldn't use an HBA card either.  

 

I cant imagine x299 only being 1 generation.  HEDT has routinely been a long term path for Intel chipset wise.  Of course with AMD back in the CPU picture that could change things.

 

And yeah...7900x for $495 VS $950+ for TR really makes me stick with Intel.  I'm watching the reports on the existing issues and rumor has it a firmware update could fix the Meltdown issue.

 

Plus its an issue that's been around for 15 years...so it will be interesting to see where things go.

 

Plus at $495. the 7900x would have good resale value for me later down the road.