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[FalconFrag 15]

Greetings, user(s) of the Linus Tech Tips Forums.

 

I have travelled far, all the way from my comfy office seat at work, to ask of your assistance.

 

Alright this formal writing is getting boring and tedious to write, so I'll get to the point! I'm planning a new Computer Build:

 

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PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PsQNCy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PsQNCy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£290.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterAir Pro 3 28.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (£20.49 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£179.99 @ Aria PC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£123.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£109.98 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  (£64.99 @ Box Limited) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX 11Gbps Video Card  (£614.97 @ PC World Business) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (£157.80 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£81.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1643.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-17 14:53 BST+0100

 

 

And as I was going all out with this new computer I want it to be peak performance, thus a question struck my mind:

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My Case, A Crystal 570X RGB from Corsair, includes 3 120mm RGB fans, my case can hold 5 120/140mm fans and 1 120mm fan, Should I consider buying more and/or replacing the included 3?

 

Now my current setup is a standard one nothing too fancy, and the included fans are more than enough for it, however this new computer and it's part can get quite hot, from what i have read anyway, so I thought I'd ask for some advice from the forum which has never given me wrong advice before, however you guys did once tell me to replace my dodgy, unbranded PSU because it was "unsafe", well guess what guys, I'm still alive and that PSU is now 6 years old and only buzzes every so I guess I'm fine... for now.

 

Anyway, I'm not going to ramble on any longer, I've given you information and question, if you need and more information, well I don't have to answer that do I because I'm sure you know the cliche.

 

Regards,

 

TotallyIridium BritishHumor FalconFrag 15

(I change my name too much, I never remember what I'm called)

[Jurrunio]

First of all, don't get an i5 X299 chip. That's anything but reasonable, or any word that's not negative. I'll get a 7700k and Z270 mobo instead and spend the saved money on larger SSD, 1080ti, basically anything but X299 chip.

 

I myself will reuse the fans that come with them, though styling is never what I give priority.

 

Again, your PSU worked fine doesn't mean it's a good choice for future buyers. Yours worked: cool, but not everyone will be this lucky. I myself use a lot of Chinese stuff and I got used to having chancy stuff: Some of them work flawlessly, some fail within a week. However, not everyone gets used to this.

[Guest]

If you want better airflow in your case to help reduce temperatures of your components, than go ahead. Generally the more fans added to your case does improve the airflow inside of the case. 

[FalconFrag 15]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Again, your PSU worked fine doesn't mean it's a good choice for future buyers. Yours worked: cool, but not everyone will be this lucky. I myself use a lot of Chinese stuff and I got used to having chancy stuff: Some of them work flawlessly, some fail within a week. However, not everyone gets used to this.

My old PSU actually was described many of times as a "firecracker" with good reason. to be honest what happens to my old computer I couldn't really care and I was planning on just throwing it at a friend for cheap or even for nothing.

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I'll get a 7700k and Z270 mobo instead

I got recommend that cpu multiple times and I'm not great in the CPU department so I just went with that, plus when I saw the ASUS Strix x299-e MBD it kinda sealed the deal because I just really liked the board.

 

I've never done a big build before and as the case I'm getting is like, entirely glass, I decided that I'd try get some nice looking parts in there, of course though I'd choose functionality over looks any day.

[FalconFrag 15]

11 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I'll get a 7700k and Z270 mobo instead

Also I just did a search for a 7700k, came back with Intel Core i7-7700K, at £290, thats £72 MORE expensive, where's the saved money?

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, FalconFrag 15 said:

it kinda sealed the deal because I just really liked the board.

of course though I'd choose functionality over looks any day.

Contradiction detected?

 

The price of 7640x isn't that much more than the standard 7600k, but the mobo price is a deal breaker for many. Asus's X299-E costs $329 while Z270-E costs $197, that's a LOT. In fact i5 7640x and X299-E costs just as much as i7 7700k and Z270-E.

 

As for performance difference between 7700k and 7640x, just go check on benchmarks. If you can't find results/large enough sample size for 7640x because no one is buying them, then use 7600k instead since they are 95% the same, or compare the three at once. The i7 is clearly faster.

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, FalconFrag 15 said:

Also I just did a search for a 7700k, came back with Intel Core i7-7700K, at £290, thats £72 MORE expensive, where's the saved money?

The problem is not the CPU, but the matching mobo.

[FalconFrag 15]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

The problem is not the CPU, but the matching mobo.

Ok, changed cpu to i7-7700k and MBD to the Z270-E, it still has a M.2 slot on it so I'm good for that, i think the cpu cooler still fits with the cpu, I'm likely going to go all out and buy more fans for it, anything else?

[Jurrunio]

Just now, FalconFrag 15 said:

Ok, changed cpu to i7-7700k and MBD to the Z270-E, it still has a M.2 slot on it so I'm good for that, i think the cpu cooler still fits with the cpu, I'm likely going to go all out and buy more fans for it, anything else?

SSHD. I don't think you need it when you have an SSD with enough capacity to even hold 1 or 2 games.

[FalconFrag 15]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

SSHD. I don't think you need it when you have an SSD with enough capacity to even hold 1 or 2 games.

A standard HDD is £35-£40 and the Hybrid is only £65, so I'm not too fused paying that bit extra for a bit of extra speed, even if it isn't much. I need the extra space because I just go through it so quickly.

[Jurrunio]

Just now, FalconFrag 15 said:

A standard HDD is £35-£40 and the Hybrid is only £65, so I'm not too fused paying that bit extra for a bit of extra speed, even if it isn't much. I need the extra space because I just go through it so quickly.

One last thing: Asus ROG Strix GTX 1080. You can match RGB with this card, but not with Gigabyte's because they are not the same brand. Factory overclocked O8G or stock clocks 8G version don't matter

[FalconFrag 15]

8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

One last thing: Asus ROG Strix GTX 1080. You can match RGB with this card, but not with Gigabyte's because they are not the same brand. Factory overclocked O8G or stock clocks 8G version don't matter

Ok I read over what you said and that makes sense, to be honest I just chose Gigabyte because it was cheaper than the asus one plus I had been with Gigabyte before and it never gave me any issue, here is my updated list:
 

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PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PsQNCy
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PsQNCy/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£290.00 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterAir Pro 3 28.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (£20.49 @ Ebuyer) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£179.99 @ Aria PC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£123.49 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£109.98 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  (£64.99 @ Box Limited) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX 11Gbps Video Card  (£614.97 @ PC World Business) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (£157.80 @ Alza) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£81.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1643.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-17 14:53 BST+0100

 

 

[HisEvilness]

The case comes with standard fans because under normal use they will suffice for cooling.
You can up the cooling by adding more and if you want and you should after you ensured the hardware you have is up to your taste.
So worry about the hardware first build your system then after you ponder and test your system consider adding more fans.

Card wise Overclocked factory are binned chips so that would leave with a higher overclocking head room.
I5 is nah, go i7 or get a Ryzen, in this case, I would buy the best Ryzen chip, for instance, a 1800X with a new PSU.