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[Mahany]

Hello Guys,

Budget & Location: I live in Egypt, My budget is about $900.

 

The Build ------->  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qjH2cc

 

 

[chris76816]

Firstly, the i5 7500 comes with a stock cooler and can not be overclocked. Therefore, it is unnecessary to buy an aftermarket cooler. Buy a 1tb hard drive and put a 120gb SSD in. Boot times will be a lot quicker as well as the overall responsiveness of the system. Have you already bought the GTX 970? And also, consider building a ryzen system with a ryzen 5 1600 and b350 motherboard.

[3rrant]

6 minutes ago, Mahany said:

Hello Guys,

Budget & Location: I live in Egypt, My budget is about $900.

 

The Build ------->  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9BVYFd

 

 

What do you need your PC for? If it's just gaming, cut down on the cooler which is useless (you can't OC because of motherboard and cpu non -K) and get a i7, even from before generations.

 

Otherwise, you can opt for a Ryzen 5 1500X/1600 with B350 motherboard for much more multitasking capabilities.

 

If you already own a 970, keep it. If you don't, try to go for a 1060 or RX570/580 at the same price, which will give you much better results overall.

 

The PSU is quite larger than needed, you can spare some money on that and go for a 650W unit.

[Jurrunio]

Don't know what prices look like in Egypt, but Ryzen 5 1400 is the one you should look for, unless it costs just as much as an unlocked i5.

 

The rest should look similar to this:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fTGfzM
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fTGfzM/by_merchant/

Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($121.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: PNY - CS1311 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($55.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 970 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($300.00) 
Case: Cooler Master - N400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($57.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($37.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $628.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 05:51 EDT-0400

 

No need for a 850W power supply. A quality 500W PSU is enough.

Also, consider a 120GB or larger SSD as boot drive. M.2 or SATA SSDs perform next to same in terms of boot times.

$300 for a GTX 970 is pretty expensive (most of them are at the $180 mark here), maybe things in Egypt are expensive in the first place idk.

[Mahany]

12 minutes ago, ErrantNyles said:

What do you need your PC for? If it's just gaming, cut down on the cooler which is useless (you can't OC because of motherboard and cpu non -K) and get a i7, even from before generations.

 

Otherwise, you can opt for a Ryzen 5 1500X/1600 with B350 motherboard for much more multitasking capabilities.

 

If you already own a 970, keep it. If you don't, try to go for a 1060 or RX570/580 at the same price, which will give you much better results overall.

 

The PSU is quite larger than needed, you can spare some money on that and go for a 650W unit.

Firstly i don't like AMD at all , i already did as you said regarding the cooler and also changed the motherboard to msi z170 in case i wanted to ger -k cpu in the future because now i'm not really into overclocking.
 

Regarding the PSU i wanted to have a good PSU from now because i'm planning to get better GPU (right now in egypt 1060 is way more expensive than 970, because USD price gone insane in the last couple of months), so i was asking what is considered a good PSU for 1080 and i may get -k CPU also in the future?

[Mahany]

32 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Don't know what prices look like in Egypt, but Ryzen 5 1400 is the one you should look for, unless it costs just as much as an unlocked i5.

 

The rest should look similar to this:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fTGfzM
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fTGfzM/by_merchant/

Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($121.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: PNY - CS1311 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($55.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 970 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card  ($300.00) 
Case: Cooler Master - N400 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($57.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($37.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $628.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 05:51 EDT-0400

 

No need for a 850W power supply. A quality 500W PSU is enough.

Also, consider a 120GB or larger SSD as boot drive. M.2 or SATA SSDs perform next to same in terms of boot times.

$300 for a GTX 970 is pretty expensive (most of them are at the $180 mark here), maybe things in Egypt are expensive in the first place idk.

the RYZEN 5 1600 price is as much as  i5-7600k here in egypt which is out of my budget for now.

(in egypt we pay additional 20%~30% of the item price for taxes and customs fees) 

Regarding the PSU as i said to ErrantNyles i wanted to have a good PSU from now because i'm planning to get better GPU if the USD prices gone down again  

SSD is very expensive so i will stick with the WD for now untill i can afford better one, note that not everything released in US market gets to egypt as fast or as cheap as it is in USA or Europe.

and the 970 is what i can afford right now here because 1070 costs like $580 or maybe higher,

[3rrant]

40 minutes ago, Mahany said:

Firstly i don't like AMD at all , i already did as you said regarding the cooler and also changed the motherboard to msi z170 in case i wanted to ger -k cpu in the future because now i'm not really into overclocking.
 

Regarding the PSU i wanted to have a good PSU from now because i'm planning to get better GPU (right now in egypt 1060 is way more expensive than 970, because USD price gone insane in the last couple of months), so i was asking what is considered a good PSU for 1080 and i may get -k CPU also in the future?

It's still much larger than needed, even for a sli.

 

Anyway, if you don't like AMD then you have no choice. Also, you won't be upgrading in the future since Intel is mostly assured to change platform again. 

[Mahany]

5 minutes ago, ErrantNyles said:

It's still much larger than needed, even for a sli.

 

Anyway, if you don't like AMD then you have no choice. Also, you won't be upgrading in the future since Intel is mostly assured to change platform again. 

which PSU do you recommend considering that i might get 1080 in the future?

[3rrant]

2 minutes ago, Mahany said:

which PSU do you recommend considering that i might get 1080 in the future?

With an 7700K at 1,45V 5,0Ghz, 1080 custom, ssd + hdd + optical drive + 6x fans + pump + 2x pci-e slot card you're still at around 500w or FULL load. So, since that's the worst case scenario, you can still opt for a good (Gold+) 650-750W but well it also depends on the cost difference.

[Jurrunio]

59 minutes ago, Mahany said:

the RYZEN 5 1600 price is as much as  i5-7600k here in egypt which is out of my budget for now.

(in egypt we pay additional 20%~30% of the item price for taxes and customs fees) 

Regarding the PSU as i said to ErrantNyles i wanted to have a good PSU from now because i'm planning to get better GPU if the USD prices gone down again  

SSD is very expensive so i will stick with the WD for now untill i can afford better one, note that not everything released in US market gets to egypt as fast or as cheap as it is in USA or Europe.

and the 970 is what i can afford right now here because 1070 costs like $580 or maybe higher,

How about Ryzen 5 1400? Better than all locked i5s in the market. Also, Intel is rumoured to change socket while AMD's platform will stay for another 3 years.

 

7700k + GTX 1080Ti, both overclocked, doesn't use more than 500W of power, so a good 650/750W PSU is enough. Of course if you managed to find a 850W one that costs the same or less but not worse in quality, then go for it.

 

Better partition your hard drive into 2 parts, 1 120GB and the other with what's remaining from the drives space. Once you get the SSD, just copy whatever is in the 120GB partition and paste into SSD. You can merge the two partitions back into one after that.

 

Too bad the prices are so high.

[Mahany]

25 minutes ago, ErrantNyles said:

With an 7700K at 1,45V 5,0Ghz, 1080 custom, ssd + hdd + optical drive + 6x fans + pump + 2x pci-e slot card you're still at around 500w or FULL load. So, since that's the worst case scenario, you can still opt for a good (Gold+) 650-750W but well it also depends on the cost difference.

right now in the market there is Seasonic M12II 620W EVO Edition 620-Watt 80 PLUS Bronze Full Modular PSU, is it okay?

[Mahany]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

How about Ryzen 5 1400? Better than all locked i5s in the market. Also, Intel is rumoured to change socket while AMD's platform will stay for another 3 years.

 

7700k + GTX 1080Ti, both overclocked, doesn't use more than 500W of power, so a good 650/750W PSU is enough. Of course if you managed to find a 850W one that costs the same or less but not worse in quality, then go for it.

 

Better partition your hard drive into 2 parts, 1 120GB and the other with what's remaining from the drives space. Once you get the SSD, just copy whatever is in the 120GB partition and paste into SSD. You can merge the two partitions back into one after that.

 

Too bad the prices are so high.

after a little research i found most people say that i5-6500 or 7500 non -k are better at gaming that ryzen 5 1500!, what is your experience with ryzen 5 in gaming guys?

[3rrant]

1 hour ago, Mahany said:

right now in the market there is Seasonic M12II 620W EVO Edition 620-Watt 80 PLUS Bronze Full Modular PSU, is it okay?

It's ok if there's a good difference in the price, otherwise stick to your choice.

52 minutes ago, Mahany said:

after a little research i found most people say that i5-6500 or 7500 non -k are better at gaming that ryzen 5 1500!, what is your experience with ryzen 5 in gaming guys?

Ryzen can be overclocked easily, that's what makes it usually better. Also, has double the threads, for multitasking.

It is unlikely that you will see differences if you play with a GTX1080 as they will be both a bottleneck at 4K and underused at 1080p.

[Mahany]

6 minutes ago, ErrantNyles said:

It's ok if there's a good difference in the price, otherwise stick to your choice.

Ryzen can be overclocked easily, that's what makes it usually better. Also, has double the threads, for multitasking.

It is unlikely that you will see differences if you play with a GTX1080 as they will be both a bottleneck at 4K and underused at 1080p.

i will look at the cost and decide later, but do you think the stock cpu cooler will operate normally at the heat here in egypt or it would be better if i got an aftermarket one? in the summer it's nearly 50 °C here.

[3rrant]

Just now, Mahany said:

i will look at the cost and decide later, but do you think the stock cpu cooler will operate normally at the heat here in egypt or it would be better if i got an aftermarket one? in the summer it's nearly 50 °C here.

50°C ambient temperature in your house or outside? If 1st.. holy molly.

 

It will operate good, but if that's the case it might get hot after prolonged use, so you might want to consider aftermarket cooling (but a big one, like noctua, or a AIO liquid). It won't hurt the CPU still, just you being next to the furnace

[Mahany]

22 minutes ago, ErrantNyles said:

50°C ambient temperature in your house or outside? If 1st.. holy molly.

 

It will operate good, but if that's the case it might get hot after prolonged use, so you might want to consider aftermarket cooling (but a big one, like noctua, or a AIO liquid). It won't hurt the CPU still, just you being next to the furnace

Of course inside my appartment its a little bit cooler but stand infront of a window and you will feel like if there is an oven blows hot air in your face ,and don't even think about taking a shower in Mid day because what is supposed to be cold water faucet is hotter than the one coming from the bathroom water heater  

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, Mahany said:

after a little research i found most people say that i5-6500 or 7500 non -k are better at gaming that ryzen 5 1500!, what is your experience with ryzen 5 in gaming guys?

Benchmarks show mixed results. I'd say that it depends on the actual games you play on. Ryzen is cheaper than both of them though.

 

39 minutes ago, Mahany said:

i will look at the cost and decide later, but do you think the stock cpu cooler will operate normally at the heat here in egypt or it would be better if i got an aftermarket one? in the summer it's nearly 50 °C here.

You can always buy an aftermarket cooler if the stock cooler proves too weak. Ryzen has a 4GHz wall, so it can't produce much heat in the first place