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Price effective build for Witcher 3

9 minutes ago, Gamer Schnitzel said:

I just saw the response and don't understand a couple of things:

1. I don't understand why you chose that motherboard. Could you explain? To me it looks like you're giving me more PCIE slots that I won't use,  another M.2 slot that I won't use and 2 more PCI slots that I won't use. What's the reason for choosing this motherboard?

2. You chose slower RAM with less Mhz and CL and I read that Ryzen is heavily dependant on fast RAM which is why I do not want to go below CL14 and 3200 Mhz.

3. The AMD GPU you chose definitely is slower than what I had and people were not sure if I could run Witcher 3 properly so I will not go with the AMD card as I have now went with a 2080 Super.

4. I went with your case but it would be good to understand why mine wasn't a good choice.

 

I do not have a budget, I would buy a 2080 Ti if someone here told me that I need it to play Witcher 3 on max settings at 1440p. I mostly took the items you recommended but added RAM for the sake of filling all 4 RAM slots on the motherboard. I sticked with 3200Mhz CL14. I changed the SSD guessing that this is better. Please let me know your input on this.

The MSI board has a much better VRM than the ASRock one. You might be fine with a 3600 on the ASRock, but anything higher core (3700x for example) will cause issues, so it limits your upgrade path. If the VRM overheats then the cpu is going to throttle. 

 

Faster speed ram doesn't mean it is better. You still need to look at the timings. A 3200 CL14 kit for example would be better than a 3600 CL19. The CL14 Ram is usually more expensive though, like the Flare X in your list. You can also easily overclock ram with the ryzen dram calculator so no need to overspend on it. 

 

I chose the 5700XT because you had a 2070 Super in your build. Of course if you can afford a stronger gpu then sure go with a 2080 Super.

 

Cheap cases like the CiT are just really bad to build in, and the actual build quality/QA can be bad. Don't forget a case can last you a couple of builds if it is good quality. If you have a good budget then stick with a reputable brand like Fractal, Phanteks, Corsair, NZXT, Lian-Li or Cooler Master etc.

 

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    AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor

    ASRock B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

    Team Dark Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory

    Western Digital Green 480 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive

    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING Video Card

    CiT F3 MicroATX Mini Tower Case

    Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

    ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan

    ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan

 

I previously asked for help with a build and got some feedback so I tried to change my build.

Could you please let me know your opinion on this build? Basically I want to at least play Witcher 3 on max settings on 1440p.

Please let me know if you would change anything. I am not on a budget but I still want it to be price effective.

Thanks guys.

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No Probleme for max Settings in 1440p. I would buy a RMx or RMi PSU tho.


CPU i7 6700k MB  MSI Z170A Pro Carbon GPU Zotac GTX980Ti amp!extreme RAM 16GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance 3k CASE Corsair 760T PSU Corsair RM750i MOUSE Logitech G9x KB Logitech G910 HS Sennheiser GSP 500 SC Asus Xonar 7.1 MONITOR Acer Predator xb270hu Storage 1x1TB + 2x500GB Samsung 7200U/m - 2x500GB SSD Samsung 850EVO

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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, Praesi said:

No Probleme for max Settings in 1440p. I would buy a RMx or RMi PSU tho.

Alright, I will swap the PSU for the Corsair RM750x White 750 Watt Fully Modular ATX PSU/Power Supply
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-corsair-rmx-white-series-rm750x-full-modular-80-plus-gold-sli-crossfire-single-rail-625a-135mm?utm_source=pc part picker&utm_medium=referral

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Intel Core i7 7800X 6C/12T (4.5GHz), Corsair H115i extreme performance liquid cooler (280mm radiator), Asus Prime X299-A, Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (4X4GB & 2X8GB 3000MHz DDR4), MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Gaming X 8G (2.113GHz core & 9.104GHz memory), 1 Samsung 960 Evo 250GB NVME M.2, 1 Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD, 1 Samsung 850 Evo 500GB SSD, 1 WD Red 1TB mechanical drive, Corsair RM750X 80+ Gold fully modular PSU, Corsair Obsidian 750D full tower case, Corsair Glaive RGB mouse, Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 (Cherry MX Red) keyboard, Asus VN247HA (1920x1080 60Hz 16:9), Yamaha HPH-MT5 headphones & Windows 10 Home 64 bit. 

 

 

The time Linus replied to me on one of my threads: 

 

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That board and case are really bad. I would also change the SSD.

 

I replied to your other thread with a build, but has your budget increased ?


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23 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

That board and case are really bad. I would also change the SSD.

 

I replied to your other thread with a build, but has your budget increased ?

I just saw the response and don't understand a couple of things:

1. I don't understand why you chose that motherboard. Could you explain? To me it looks like you're giving me more PCIE slots that I won't use,  another M.2 slot that I won't use and 2 more PCI slots that I won't use. What's the reason for choosing this motherboard?

2. You chose slower RAM with less Mhz and CL and I read that Ryzen is heavily dependant on fast RAM which is why I do not want to go below CL14 and 3200 Mhz.

3. The AMD GPU you chose definitely is slower than what I had and people were not sure if I could run Witcher 3 properly so I will not go with the AMD card as I have now went with a 2080 Super.

4. I went with your case but it would be good to understand why mine wasn't a good choice.

 

I do not have a budget, I would buy a 2080 Ti if someone here told me that I need it to play Witcher 3 on max settings at 1440p. I mostly took the items you recommended but added RAM for the sake of filling all 4 RAM slots on the motherboard. I sticked with 3200Mhz CL14. I changed the SSD guessing that this is better. Please let me know your input on this.

 

This is the updated link to my PCpartpicker:

 

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9 minutes ago, Gamer Schnitzel said:

I just saw the response and don't understand a couple of things:

1. I don't understand why you chose that motherboard. Could you explain? To me it looks like you're giving me more PCIE slots that I won't use,  another M.2 slot that I won't use and 2 more PCI slots that I won't use. What's the reason for choosing this motherboard?

2. You chose slower RAM with less Mhz and CL and I read that Ryzen is heavily dependant on fast RAM which is why I do not want to go below CL14 and 3200 Mhz.

3. The AMD GPU you chose definitely is slower than what I had and people were not sure if I could run Witcher 3 properly so I will not go with the AMD card as I have now went with a 2080 Super.

4. I went with your case but it would be good to understand why mine wasn't a good choice.

 

I do not have a budget, I would buy a 2080 Ti if someone here told me that I need it to play Witcher 3 on max settings at 1440p. I mostly took the items you recommended but added RAM for the sake of filling all 4 RAM slots on the motherboard. I sticked with 3200Mhz CL14. I changed the SSD guessing that this is better. Please let me know your input on this.

The MSI board has a much better VRM than the ASRock one. You might be fine with a 3600 on the ASRock, but anything higher core (3700x for example) will cause issues, so it limits your upgrade path. If the VRM overheats then the cpu is going to throttle. 

 

Faster speed ram doesn't mean it is better. You still need to look at the timings. A 3200 CL14 kit for example would be better than a 3600 CL19. The CL14 Ram is usually more expensive though, like the Flare X in your list. You can also easily overclock ram with the ryzen dram calculator so no need to overspend on it. 

 

I chose the 5700XT because you had a 2070 Super in your build. Of course if you can afford a stronger gpu then sure go with a 2080 Super.

 

Cheap cases like the CiT are just really bad to build in, and the actual build quality/QA can be bad. Don't forget a case can last you a couple of builds if it is good quality. If you have a good budget then stick with a reputable brand like Fractal, Phanteks, Corsair, NZXT, Lian-Li or Cooler Master etc.

 


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19 minutes ago, Gamer Schnitzel said:

You will be fine with 32GB Ram. Even 16GB is enough if you are just gaming. I would suggest the Crucial Ballistix Sport LT as it overclocks nicely on Ryzen boards.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/tJKcCJ/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-bls2k16g4d32aesb

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/7wdxFT/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-bls2k16g4d32aesc

 

The 650W version of that psu would be enough. The Seasonic Prime Ultra Snow Silent 650W is currently on sale for £92.99 + postage from Overclockers. They also have the 650W Corsair RMi for a bit more if you prefer.

 

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seasonic-prime-ultra-snow-silent-650w-80-plus-platinum-modular-power-supply-ca-06k-ss.html

 

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-rmi-series-rm650i-650w-80-plus-gold-modular-power-supply-cp-9020081-uk-ca-201-cs.html

 

 

 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
7 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

You will be fine with 32GB Ram. Even 16GB is enough if you are just gaming. I would suggest the Crucial Ballistix Sport LT as it overclocks nicely on Ryzen boards.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/tJKcCJ/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-bls2k16g4d32aesb

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/7wdxFT/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-bls2k16g4d32aesc

 

The 650W version of that psu would be enough. The Seasonic Prime Ultra Snow Silent 650W is currently on sale for £92.99 + postage from Overclockers. They also have the 650W Corsair RMi for a bit more if you prefer.

 

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seasonic-prime-ultra-snow-silent-650w-80-plus-platinum-modular-power-supply-ca-06k-ss.html

 

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-rmi-series-rm650i-650w-80-plus-gold-modular-power-supply-cp-9020081-uk-ca-201-cs.html

 

 

 

I don't really want to overclock RAM and I don't mind just paying more for mine so I will stick with the one I have.

 

The PSU is okay because the price in the website is wrong. The one I chose is only £99 on Scan.co.uk so I will just go with it.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-corsair-rmx-white-series-rm750x-full-modular-80-plus-gold-sli-crossfire-single-rail-625a-135mm

 

I just realized that the GPU I chose only had 1 fan and I read cards with 1 fan are usually bad since higher end cards need proper cooling so I updated my list.

Any more feedback on this? How many fans should I be getting with the case? I only have 2 120mm ones in my list right now

 

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You don't really need 750W though. 

 

If you want to stick with a 750W unit then I would pay an extra £10 for the RMi. The RMx is out of stock anyway until Dec 13th.

 

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-corsair-rm750i-series-fully-modular-psu-80plus-gold-certified-135mm-fan-atx

 

It isn't that hard to overclock the ram. Have a watch of the video below first just to give you an idea.

 

 

 

If you want a better version of the 2080 Super then look at Gigabyte's Gaming OC model. You get a 4 year warranty when you register it online.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/ckTzK8/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2080-super-8-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-n208sgaming-oc-8gc

 

There is also the Asus Strix for less, but Gigabyte has better warranty support if you are in the UK.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2jcRsY/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-super-8-gb-strix-gaming-video-card-rog-strix-rtx2080s-8g-gaming


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Posted · Original PosterOP
17 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

You don't really need 750W though. 

 

If you want to stick with a 750W unit then I would pay an extra £10 for the RMi. The RMx is out of stock anyway until Dec 13th.

 

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-corsair-rm750i-series-fully-modular-psu-80plus-gold-certified-135mm-fan-atx

 

It isn't that hard to overclock the ram. Have a watch of the video below first just to give you an idea.

 

 

 

If you want a better version of the 2080 Super then look at Gigabyte's Gaming OC model. You get a 4 year warranty when you register it online.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/ckTzK8/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2080-super-8-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-n208sgaming-oc-8gc

 

There is also the Asus Strix for less, but Gigabyte has better warranty support if you are in the UK.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/2jcRsY/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-super-8-gb-strix-gaming-video-card-rog-strix-rtx2080s-8g-gaming

I have changed the PSU and GPU to the ones you suggested but I still don't want to overclock the RAM. Please let me know if there is anything else I should change. I added another fan so I can fill up all 5 fan slots in the case. Any feedback on the stock cooler of the CPU? 

 

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I just realized that my mainboard only has like 3 fan headers but the case has 5 fans. Obviously I want all of them connected to the motherboard so that the motherboard can slow them down in idle. Can someone tell me what I need to do now? Do I look for a motherboard that has 5 headers? Does that even exist in smaller motherboards?

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If you are happy to pay extra for the Ram then your call. Everything else looks ok. You could chuck in a cheap air cooler for the cpu if you wanted. Something like an Arctic Freezer 34 Esports duo. The stock cooler is pretty decent though.

 

You can claim a free game with the 3600X.

 

https://www.amd.com/en/gaming/equipped-to-win


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3 minutes ago, Gamer Schnitzel said:

I just realized that my mainboard only has like 3 fan headers but the case has 5 fans. Obviously I want all of them connected to the motherboard so that the motherboard can slow them down in idle. Can someone tell me what I need to do now? Do I look for a motherboard that has 5 headers? Does that even exist in smaller motherboards?

You can use fan splitters if you want extra fans.


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21 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

You can use fan splitters if you want extra fans.

Okay so I added the CPU fan that you suggested. I don't mind paying more to keep the system from throttling and quieter.

You make it sound like using the splitters is optional. Is it not a good idea to connect all fans to the motherboard so they can be controlled?

 

This is an up to date list. Please feel free to comment. I want to be sure it is perfect for when I order soon.

 

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17 minutes ago, Gamer Schnitzel said:

Okay so I added the CPU fan that you suggested. I don't mind paying more to keep the system from throttling and quieter.

You make it sound like using the splitters is optional. Is it not a good idea to connect all fans to the motherboard so they can be controlled?

You want PWM fans if you want the board to control them automatically. A 3 pin fan usually runs at 100% unless you set a fan curve. You can plug 3 pin fans into a 4 pin header though.

 

The PWM version of those Arctic fans is the same price so you might as well get those.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Kpprxr/arctic-f12-pwm-pst-530-cfm-120mm-fan-afaco-120p0-gba01

 

You can get splitter cables like the one below that can run two fans off one header. A couple of those should cover you for 4 of the fans.

 

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/akasa-pwm-fan-splitter-supports-2-pwm-fans-from-a-single-motherboard-pwm-header

 

The other front bottom fan can hopefully run off the bottom left header. You can get PWM extension cables if need be like this:

 

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/30cm-akasa-ak-cbfa01-30-4-pin-to-4-pin-pwm-fan-extension-cable


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