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Is the DAC on the Gigabyte Aorus Master a gimmick?

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As the title suggests, I'm wondering if the ESS 9118 SABRE DAC on the Gigabyte Aorus Master is a gimmick when compared to the Asus crosshair hero viii or the asrock taichi. I know similar DACs are used in some sound cards so has anyone heard a noticeable difference in sound quality when using decent headphones or speakers?

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Gimmick as in I'd rather have it replaced by something cheap? Yes. Those care about audio enough will have their seperate DAC PCIe card already.


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3 hours ago, SOLO_AVENGER said:

As the title suggests, I'm wondering if the ESS 9118 SABRE DAC on the Gigabyte Aorus Master is a gimmick when compared to the Asus crosshair hero viii or the asrock taichi. I know similar DACs are used in some sound cards so has anyone heard a noticeable difference in sound quality when using decent headphones or speakers?

 

3 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Gimmick as in I'd rather have it replaced by something cheap? Yes. Those care about audio enough will have their seperate DAC PCIe card already.

yup always a good advice J. But going a step further, you want the dac to be completely removed from the system, as in usb dac. This will create the best sound. Even PCIe is too close to electrical interference.  I suggest the audio engine d1. I have this and it is decent.


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8 minutes ago, Srnewbee said:

 

 

yup always a good advice J. But going a step further, you want the dac to be completely removed from the system, as in usb dac. This will create the best sound. Even PCIe is too close to electrical interference.  I suggest the audio engine d1. I have this and it is decent.

Well, i do mean separate dac but not aware where different types differ.. Tbh I'm the bunch who don't really care so I'd rather have better boards on the cheap :D 


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 hours ago, SOLO_AVENGER said:

As the title suggests, I'm wondering if the ESS 9118 SABRE DAC on the Gigabyte Aorus Master is a gimmick when compared to the Asus crosshair hero viii or the asrock taichi. I know similar DACs are used in some sound cards so has anyone heard a noticeable difference in sound quality when using decent headphones or speakers?

just as a general guideline, your dac should equal the cost of your headset. So for instance, if the dac is $200, expect to pay $200 for your headphone as well. However, if you are not keen on going the entry audiophile route, you should just get "fun sounds" from any gaming device manufacturer. If this is the case, any dac will do. I think you should go for those 7.1 surround sound. TBH, in terms of gaming, I prefer fun sounds over accurate ones. Games werent designed with audiophiles in mind so the sound can be a bit underwhelming at times.

 

All in all, my recommendation to you is, if you got 400usd to waste, come experiment. At least your music collection will sound much more pleasing. And plus, while I do prefer fun sounds during gaming session, accurate sounds are not horrible by any means.


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GPU: Gigabyte G1 1080 GTX | Case: Prodigy ITX | Fans: NH-A14, (exhaust) NH-A12, (intake) NH-A20 (intake)

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