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Semper

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About Semper

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    Professional Potato
  • Birthday 1985-12-01

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    Male
  • Location
    California (very much not by choice)

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  • CPU
    Intel i7-4790k
  • Motherboard
    MSI Z97-G45
  • RAM
    G.SKILL Ripjaws Z 4x4GB
  • GPU
    EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Edition
  • Case
    Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage
    2x Seagate Barracuda 2TB | 1x OCZ Agility 3 120GB
  • PSU
    Seasonic PRIME Ultra 750w Titanium
  • Display(s)
    1x Aorus AD27QD | 1x Dell S2716DG
  • Cooling
    XSPC/EK/Bitspower loop
  • Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB Rapidfire
  • Mouse
    Logitech G600
  • Sound
    Schiit Fulla / Audio Technica MSR7GM / Razer Surround
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro

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  1. Welcome to the forums! If I can give you some advice for the future (when posting here, or anywhere, really) line breaks (paragraphs) go a long way in making something much easier to read. Now, for your questions: 1. Undervolting and overclocking are not mutually exclusive, but also not mutually attainable. It's part of the silicon lottery. Part of what overclocking consists of is finding the lowest voltage and the highest stable frequency you can manage. My 4790k lost the overclocking lottery, but isn't a terrible performer with a very slight undervolt and a very slight overclock (1.2v @4.5 all-core) I can't get 4.6s stable at anything below 1.295. Now, it's also worth noting that the 9300H is not an unlocked processor, meaning functionally, it can't be overclocked. Overclocking also isn't going to completely revolutionize your experience. There was a time where you could expect to see massive performance gains, but modern silicon, modern processes, use up much of that potential out-of-box already. Overclocking can be considered just squeezing every last bit of performance out as you can. 2. GPU overclocking works a little bit different from CPU overclocking. The simple version is that your GPU will draw whatever power it needs. You can increase your voltage percent target to reach a higher overclock, but that doesn't mean that it will be drawing that much. Often times you'll find that a memory clock increase will yield a larger performance boost than the core clock. 3. Overclocking/undervolting can potentially be about finding lower temperatures, but that isn't necessarily a required goal, or the only goal. Intel (and AMD) have thermal specs (which include shutdown for worse-case scenarios) as well as thermal recommendations (TDP, as you've mentioned) of normal operational temperature to maintain the life of the chip. It's more common to push your thermal headroom as far as you can within that recommended limit rather than go for the lowest temperatures you can. Laptops are usually the largest focus of undervolting to control thermals. A decent cooling solution (Air, AIO, or custom loop) is an investment that needs to be considered for desktops. 4. Memory overclocking can be done, timings can be tuned, but generally, it results in very nominal performance gains (particularly on the Intel side) compared to the time taken. 16gb should be plenty sufficient assuming that it's a reasonable set for frequency and latency/timings. 5. Stress Testing. Personally, I use OCCT and RealBench for CPU, Cinebench (R20 being the most current at this point) is another popular one. For GPU I use something from Unigine (Heaven is a very common one), currently I use Superposition. 3DMark has a great lineup as well, Time Spy is the most recent, and FurMark is still sticking around has a GPU killer.
  2. Everything I'm reading about these two monitors suggests that the XG240R is going to ever so slightly best the 24GL600F, though they are very similar should one be a reasonable bit less expensive.
  3. For me, the K70 MK2 or the G Pro X would be my picks here. It's a tossup between these as they both have pros and cons. Corsair has excellent build quality, but functionally bloatware (buggy bloatware at that) controller software that has deep customization, if you put the time in. I've been using my K70 since 2014 (just before their switch to the tramp stamp) with zero hardware issue. Logitech has much more simple, but less bug-prone and to a lesser degree, bloatware, controller software, but it uses their own spin on Cherry keys. They're not bad by any means, and it's entirely possible it's placebo, but they felt different (again, not bad, just different) to me. If I had to describe them, they feel like MX Speeds mixed with the more obscure MX Whites. I don't like TKL keyboards, and have no experience with Kingston's boards, so input on the Alloy Origins won't be coming from me.
  4. Have you attempted a CMOS clear and starting from ground up again?
  5. Are your fans being curve controlled by Voltage by chance? I believe it's the case that LED's on voltage controlled fans will fluctuate with the RPM target that the curves are set to (higher RPM = brighter, lower = more dim)
  6. This is really subjective to what you like most, as after all it is it's your laptop. To me, of these two, I would be picking Marble. Leather on technology has always felt like a "it's a thing I can do so I'm going to do it because it's a thing I can do". I don't understand it, and I don't care for it.
  7. It's a little more complex than "play game get fame". The people you see excel are people that sell themselves to their audience, they provide something that their communities can relate to, There's a large number of ways that's done. Educational, Comical, Entertaining, Relatable, Sex Appeal (even with Twitch's standards, it still happens in subverted ways), common interests/public figures (Alex Zedra in relations to the firearms community, Pornstars with their following, ETC), among many others. Sometimes it's because they were the first to do it, sometimes it's because they did it better than someone else. They bring people back with their *insert interest point here*, and as they continue to grow, they see growth (takes money to make money type of deal)
  8. @For Science! has a fairly comprehensive list of what's going on with coolants from an objectively scientific side. When it comes to coolant, I use straight distilled with Mayhems X1. The less additives you have, the better it's going to perform. Some people swear by distilled and PT Nuke, but in context of this discussion, it's worth nothing that PT Nuke includes no corrosion inhibitors. When it comes to dyes, I encourage people to consider colored tubing and/or some type of RGB on their res. Dyes introduce complications, specifically the biggest two being fallout/seperation (much more prevalent with opaque coolants) and staining. It's near impossible to remove all dye from a system should you want to change colors at some point. Using corrosion inhibitors is a method to stave off glavanic corrosion. Your vehicle is very likely running a mixed metal loop, but because of the inhibitors, generally doesn't present issues any time in the life expectancy of the vehicle. It's still best practice to stick to similar metals, however, which is why it's always encouraged. When it comes to pumps, my go-to is always a D5 Vario. https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-d5-vario-motor-d5-vario-motor It's worth noting that a D5 is a D5, they're all rebrands of the same motor with *insert company here* stickers on them. The more components you add to your loop, the more expensive it's going to be. Adding $100 for the HydroCopper 2070 will likely result in a little savings over going with an aftermarket GPU block. If you decide that you want to skip the GPU block, you can just run a loop over your 3700x, similar to an AIO.
  9. Long version: It's been a while since I've built a system (late 2014 to be exact), and I haven't been keeping up with builds much since then, particularly budget builds. A cousin of mine came to me (Quite literally like 15 minutes ago, so I'm scrambling a bit) potentially wanting to pick up parts for his first build during the Black Friday sales, so, I'm putting together a list for him. Problem is, he's not currently home right now (half way across the world to be a little more accurate), and all communication is being done through text, when he has service and/or internet access (which is intermittent). I can't get a defined budget from him (the last message he sent was "as cheap as it can be"), so unfortunately, I can't give you guys a budget either. ----- TL;DR: Family member first-time build, unknown ("cheap as possible") budget. No overclocking, no water cooling. ----- Budget: Unknown ("as cheap as possible" - read above for more if you skipped it), considering it a budget build. Location: US Workload: Gaming (primarily), potential light (word processing) schoolwork on the side [Business/marketing] (he has a laptop for this already however) Output: Single monitor, 1080p 120hz goal. Peripherals: Mouse, Keyboard (Membrane/mechanical is unknown, but I will be encouraging mechanical.), Windows 10, all necessary. ----- This is what I've come up with. Any rebuilds/recommendations/any input at all is welcomed and appreciated! A mixture of new and used parts may come to pass (hence the 2600 instead of 3600), but again, all input is welcome! PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($114.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ B&H) Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($66.89 @ Amazon) Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 590 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg) Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($99.95 @ Amazon) Monitor: AOC C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($144.99 @ Amazon) Keyboard: Logitech G413 Carbon Wired Gaming Keyboard ($58.49 @ Amazon) Mouse: Logitech G203 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse ($20.99 @ Amazon) Total: $951.25 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-25 20:55 EST-0500
  10. Barring a paradigm shift, advancements on the CPU side (in terms of gaming performance) has largely stagnated since ~2014. I'm still running my 4790k, and the investment required for an upgrade versus the performance gained is a very heavy imbalance. It's simply just not worth it yet. All the buzz and hoopla around AMD with Ryzen, while not unwarranted, has largely been around them coming back with a strong left hook. They're bring very good performance per dollar and fighting back with very competitive lineups. They're competitive again, but we're still not seeing major performance gains annually. I can't predict the future, but an educated guess doesn't see anything major on the horizon that's suddenly going to completely antiquate anything you build today (so long as it's not already obsolescent when built). There was a time when meaningful strides in technology and their performance gains happened almost monthly (certainly warranting a valid upgrade every two years for major gains in peak performance), but I don't think (being again, that I can not predict the future) we're going to see a time like that again until we move off of silicon as a die medium. When it comes to stuttering issues, there's any number of issues that could have been causing it, hardware and software, mixture of both potentially. I can't tell you "no your system will never experience that again", nor can anyone with genuine intentions, but warranties are in place for a reason. Troubleshooting (and the help section of this and many other tech communities) exist to help people try and diagnose issues and what's causing them, and potential fixes. As it's likely that you're aware, Intel does still hold the top position for raw gaming performance, but you're going to pay a premium for it. You can get a very significant portion of that performance with AMD at with a non-trival savings, and that gap is getting progressively smaller as AMD continues to throw punches.
  11. The same thing can be implemented with a drop system as well though, just because it's micro-transactions doesn't automagically make it more fun. When it comes to microtransactions, I really don't mind cosmetic. Making video games, being a development firm and/or publisher, comes with the sole intent of making money. The developers, writers, creative directors, everyone involved in it are what make the game what it is. CDPR has a good track record for making solid games, and doing right by their customers (make a good game and people will buy it). I'll go so far as to say that I know at least two people who purchased TW3 solely because of this, and they're the kind that normally don't play RPG's. True (Micro)transactions are a way of continuing to maintain profit (or increase revenue) while still allowing for continued development. I still don't encourage pre-sales/preorders from anyone (CDPR included), but I think they've earned the trust enough to consider it a safe bet. I think that same trust applies here. I fully expect it will be a fair price and quality content. I think they know this, and I think they know all the good will that they currently have can be lost significantly faster than it can be reobtained.
  12. They do carry a performance hit. It's worth noting that Spectre and Meltdown did, and do impact both Intel and AMD (I believe it also impacted ARM while we're at it). What I'm stating is that I don't find it a good idea to base your decision on it's performance metric. It's entirely possible that AMD may be hit with something similar, only time will tell (as stated previously, it took several generations for this to become a known and resolved issue). With the mitigations in place, Intel currently still holds out for raw performance over AMD in the majority of gaming-exclusive workloads, just at a higher cost. It's always worth a shot to see if you're able to secure an AM4 bracket for free, if you want to consider the option. I know Phanteks was providing them for free back in 2017. Ultimately, if they won't even so much as sell you an adapter, the only thing wasted was the small amount of effort that could potentially save you a bit of money. Ultimately, what you decide to do is your choice. There's beginning signs out there that our 4790k's are showing their age. I can't predict how rapidly they're going to age in the future, but I believe with AMD actually giving Intel a run for their money, we're going to see something change, be it generational improvements (I.E. not resting on 14NM++++(...) refreshes ad-infinitum), price competition (Intel not being able to charge what they please, because they're effectively the only option), or both. For the time being, however, my 4790k/1080ti combo is running all the games I play without problem at 1440p 120hz, most of them with slightly modified high/max settings. My system isn't all that radically different than yours.
  13. We all spend money on things that we don't need. To what degree it's done will (again) vary from person to person. I don't see value in an SLI system, much like yourself, but I'm certain there's things that I spend unreasonable amounts of disposable income on that you don't agree with, and vise-versa. It's part of being a person with free will, it doesn't make it wrong, it doesn't make it right.
  14. I opt for a proper chassis as I have pets. I would like an open-air test bench, but because of the aforementioned pets, and the fact that I can tune my system's airflow to minimize dust buildup (my area is well known for being notoriously dusty - and currently the interior of my chassis is more dust free than my desk), proper enclosure it is for me. I remove my front and side panels during the summer months to help alleviate some of the extra heat.
  15. Largely, it generally tends to boil down to "because I can" from what I've seen. Every case will be different, every person's reasoning as well, but I think what Jay does with Skunkworks really is the most common reason, "Ultimate overkill because I can"
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