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Because old FX series is  B) 

Athlon 64 FX-62 @ 3,0GHz (with 4GB of Micron D9 memory : LINK  ).
Cinebench 2003 : LINK,
Cinebench R11.5 : LINK,
Cinebench R15 : LINK.
^Result on stock AMD cooler.

PS. Athlon 64 FX series, doesn't have a "x2" in name (since it doesn't need it).
Anything over and including "FX-60" model is Dual-Core and anything lower than that, is Single Core.
No Quad cores were ever made for Athlon 64 FX series.

Hwbot : LINK
 
Tweaked few things
Turns out, IMC/RAM don't like 500MHz clock that much ;P
 
FX-60 @ 3,05GHz :
Cinebench 2003 : LINK,
Cinebench R11.5 : LINK,
Cinebench R15 : LINK.
 
PS. Delta fan finally spins at 4k RPM when CPU is at full load (@3GHz it always spinned at 50% - QFan for you).

Socket 939 FX-60 @ 3GHz :
Cinebench 2003 : LINK,
Cinebench R11.5 : LINK,
Cinebench R15 : LINK.
 
I think it's not too shabby, considering I am using 8GB of ECC Registered memory

@up Lol It's 90nm tech. I think 1,35-1,4V is stock Vcore for this CPU (ie. it's not going anywhere with only ~1,55V on it )   @Jumper118 : It never exeeds 60C, which greatly improves stability when OC'ing.
It's cooled by Thermalright Ultra Extreme (w/939 bolt kit) with Delta 38mm thick fan (to be more acurate, this fan : FFB1212EHE), and there is MX-2 paste between cooling and CPU.   Don't know what cooling other guys with FX-60 used, but I know that 3GHz is REALLY hard to make stable (if U have crappy cooling).

So... I guess this is a "Extreme Overclocking" right now

Valid : LINK 

@up Lol It's 90nm tech. I think 1,35-1,4V is stock Vcore for this CPU (ie. it's not going anywhere with only ~1,55V on it )   @Jumper118 : It never exeeds 60C, which greatly improves stability when OC'ing.
It's cooled by Thermalright Ultra Extreme (w/939 bolt kit) with Delta 38mm thick fan (to be more acurate, this fan : FFB1212EHE), and there is MX-2 paste between cooling and CPU.   Don't know what cooling other guys with FX-60 used, but I know that 3GHz is REALLY hard to make stable (if U have crappy cooling).

@up Lol It's 90nm tech. I think 1,35-1,4V is stock Vcore for this CPU (ie. it's not going anywhere with only ~1,55V on it )   @Jumper118 : It never exeeds 60C, which greatly improves stability when OC'ing.
It's cooled by Thermalright Ultra Extreme (w/939 bolt kit) with Delta 38mm thick fan (to be more acurate, this fan : FFB1212EHE), and there is MX-2 paste between cooling and CPU.   Don't know what cooling other guys with FX-60 used, but I know that 3GHz is REALLY hard to make stable (if U have crappy cooling).

I dare any 130nm AMD user, to beat this score using air cooling only : http://valid.x86.fr/ml5w0h

FX-55 (130nm) @ 3,01GHz @ 1,72V

It's stable enough to get Validation (not stable enough to test anything other than cache/memory)

Valid : http://valid.x86.fr/gedrgm

Because doing 4GHz on something that's under 100nm, is too easy

With only 29/44C on 40% FAN's, U would need A LOT of airflow to get it moving down.
Why ?
Because with aircooling, it's all about the temperature difference between the heatsink and the air moving around it.

Try doing OCCT PSU test (or any other test that can max out heat output from GPU + CPU combo), and then compare case fan settings.

I'm guessing that U wanted to see something like this : LINK, but with idle temps.
FYI : It can't happend because of physics.
But U can try comparing 29/44C temps, to situation when U cool the air that goes into the computer with ACU.
It sould produced the result U wanted (also : no FAN settings change required ).

Motherboard can't increase voltage over VID, so it will NOT change, after BSEL mod is used.
Most Conroe based CPU are REALLY under clocked, so U don't have to worry about stability when moving from 800MHz FSB to 1066 or from 1066MHz FSB to 1333.

I would alter the car analogy.

Car/engine model : Instruction set
Cyliders : Cores
RPM : Frequency
IPC : Gear (selected in gearbox)
Speed = Performance
(more = better)

Since both CPU manufacturers use the same instruction set (x86), it's like they are working on the same engine type/model.
The difference is what they do to tweak the same basic engine.
AMD is "RPM'ing" to max, while Intel is using more smart aproach tweaking not only RPM but Gearbox as well.

In this analogy, U can say AMD is using only 1 gear Gearbox (because they "don't need" more gears, or they belive in "U spin engine faster U will go faster" philisophy).
Intel on the other hand is using multi gear gearbox, and can switch to 2-nd or even 3-rd gear, compared to AMD (using the same engine).
Basicly question, what will be faster :
VW car with 5k RPM on engine and only 1-st gear used, or the same VW car with 5k RPM, but on 3-rd gear ?


Another good analogy, is using urban taxi customers as data (more customers delivered [multi thread] or delivered faster [single thread], is better).
With this, AMD has Toyota Pickup Truck's, while Intel has modified BMW's.

Both vehicles have "+" and "-", like trucks can carry more people at once (are good at transporting groups), but BMW can deliver them faster.

That 2,5GHz is simply too slow, I bet 3 or 3,2 GHz would make a HUGE difference in games.

No OC on server boards ?
Well that depends... IF board supports 1600MHz FSB CPU's, it should be able work with BSEL mod (ie. 3GHz on those L5420 ) : LINK/LINK.

RAM is based on Elpida BBSE and I got 8GB of it (in my main rig)
It needed 1,65V to do that CL6 1650MHz (probably could go to ~1700MHz, but AMD AM3 CPU's, don't like high DRAM Frequency).

Sempron 145 unlocked OC'ed 4,34GHz
I managed to beat current score in Cinebench 2003
Screen : LINK.
And I know, it's only few point's, but clock is lower by a few MHz
64-bit are not possible at this time (that's why Cine 2003 will be only result i upload for this CPU for now).

But here's a question :
WHAT exacly is, a unlocked Sempron 145 ?
1) Sempron 145 with two cores active,
2) Athlon II x2 4450E (not existing CPU, Athlon64 x2 4450e is a 65nm CPU),
3) Athlon II x2 445 (x3 version exist but has 512kB L2 cache per core),
4) Athlon II x2 240e.

QX = Unlocked multi (if U need/want it).
Q = Locked upper multi.
Other differences were listed earlier.

IF U have a good MB (that can do 1600MHz or more on FSB [effective speed]), locked multi isn't a big issue (at least in Q9650 case).
BTW it MAY OC'ed better, since it's E0 stepping : LINK (QX is C0 or C1 tops).

PS. LGA 775 doesn't have a BCLK

How about next time demanding a minimum quality to the build? What I mean is, this tim all three builds had at least one iffy component which gave me the impression that if I was to use such a system for my daily use, something would break down which would increase costs and leave me without a computer.
Why not include a proper usage test?
Like the next time you do scrap yard wars you would have to use your build as a daily driver for a period of time and, everytime you at the resort to your everyday computer you would lose points and add the time it took you to fix it (as well as the money) to the final score?
Obviously any sorts of editing work would be exempt from this but things like gaming, sending emails, browsing the internet would have to be done using the computer you built.
This would make the builds more indicative of what a normal person would buy.

Q9400 can do 3,2GHz with ease ("only" 1600MHz FSB is required with standard 800MHz RAM).
Anything higher needs better board/RAM than that, and with over 450MHz on FSB (ie. ~3,6GHz on Q9400 and 900MHz on RAM), problems usually start. My Q9400 needed high Vcore/VTT (ie. ~1,4V : LINK) to be stable on 3,69GHz, but my MB didn't have GTL/PLL voltages to change, so U may get better OC than that.
  Only question is : How good your Motherboard really is and what OC options it's got. 
PS. E8400 can go like a train if U OC it : LINK.

I got P4 EE (the original one) in one PC and Xeon 5440 in other (or now at least  )
P4 EE : LINK (Crysis 4k short gameplay),
Xeon E5440 : LINK (Fallout 4 gameplay).

Forgot about Cinebench 2003 result...

4,5GHz with 22nm CPU... OK
But I can do 4GHz... with 0,13 um one
  
Can't do R15, since it needs 64-bit CPU

4,5GHz with 22nm CPU... OK
But I can do 4GHz... with 0,13 um one
  
Can't do R15, since it needs 64-bit CPU

4,5GHz with 22nm CPU... OK
But I can do 4GHz... with 0,13 um one
  
Can't do R15, since it needs 64-bit CPU