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3.5 Million dollars is nothing to Lenovo

If its coming from Mars is really cheap.

They are both more than enough for 1080p, go for GTX 1070, GTX 1080 for 1080p is overkill.

PS: If the difference is small, then it compensates to buy the GTX 1080.

I never use it for programming.

2 hours ago, stevenh said:

Would the R7 1700 be worth the upgrade over the 6600k?

I was also looking at the i7 6700l & 7700K, since i wouldn't have to sell my mother board (looking at the used prices i wouldn't get much for that) that would be the cheaper option.

Or would the difference be worth the cost?

 

I don't have to spend the entire budget.

 

I feel like a 1080 would be a bit of overkill since i only use a 1080, 60hz monitor and i'm not planning to change that any time in the future.

Or am i wrong there?

 

 

The only reason to buy a i7 7700K right now is to play at 144HZ+, if you dont want to get an R7 1700, I would stay with your CPU and upgrade to some 6/8 cores later, your CPU is still great. If you dont want to spend the whole budget, but want to increase in gaming performance, I would sell your R9 390 while still miners are buying, and get some GTX 1070/1080.

PS: Since you are using 1080p 60HZ, there are no reason to change your PC for gaming right now. But for editing you can get a R7 1700.

I would sell your MB and CPU, and buy a R7 1700 with a B350 motherboard and you can upgrade the GPU with the extra cash.

I agree with @Zando Bob

There are no reasons to buy any i3 right now, and basically no reason to buy any new i5, the only CPUs Intel that make sense right now are G4560 and 7700K(for 144HZ+ gaming).

In your budget I would go for R5 1600, the 2 extra cores will come in handy.

Neither, I would go for RX 470 when it gets backs in Stock, in Germany it costs only 20 euros more. Your CPU will bottleneck the 3 cards, but a lot more the RX 470. I would still get the RX 470 and upgrade the CPU later.

3 minutes ago, RGProductions said:

Could be ram, ryzen is picky with ram, however I think it could be your psu bring inadequate for the build.

Whats the problem with the PSU? Ryzen 1600 has 65W TDP and the GTX 1050 Ti 75W. It could easily run on a 300W PSU:

I would get either a R7 1700 or a R5 1600 and would get a SSD. Also would use the stock cooler, and dont buy an AIO.

40 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

WD2 is in techpowerup. The pentium is not "dying."

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I can't find any direct gta v comparisons which is quite annoying . There's g4560 with 1080 and 1500x with 1080 ti on Tom's hardware but I can't compare that. Here's some BF1 instead.

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And I can't find anything for Ryzen on cities skylines.

Doesnt seem so CPU bounded to me, Watch Dogs 2 in this test, i5 7400 (3,0Ghz) and the i7 6700K (4Ghz) are almost the same.

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

There's no reason to get an i3 anymore

Or to get an i5 for $200

3 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Civ VI runs really well on Ryzen. Ryzen thrashes every Intel CPU, I believe the quad core ones even beat the i7s, which makes no sense. Civ VI is a horrible example, what about something else like gta v, watch dogs 2, or city skylines?

I dont see this games in the Test, do you have it?

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Tell that to techpowerup

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1600/12.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1600/13.html

Title it wins: Deus Ex (very old), DOOM (also very old), RE7 (extremely old)

 

Guess which site is not gonna be trusted again for CPU gaming benchmarks lol

Now look at CPU bounded games, the Pentium dies in CIV IV.

5 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

G4560 MSRP for $64 and already beating a R5 1400 in gaming that I definitely did not nitpick 

 

Hella yes

 

The G4560 may beat in older titles, but newer titles that can really use the 4 cores will beat the G4560 easily, I dont see why would somebody buy a dual core right now, expect with lower budget.

$109? Damn, if the Pentium G4560 didnt kill the i3 for good, this will.

PS: With this Intel will just make sense with low budget G4560 and for 144HZ with the 7700K, the rest is AMD all the way.

2 minutes ago, thomas gameris said:

ok but iam really not a fan of intel so what is an AMD  equvalent?

 

Hmm, if you want AMD you should wait some days/weeks for Ryzen 3, and sell your RAM and buy DDR4.

1 minute ago, thomas gameris said:

no need for ram i have 8GB DDR3 and iam from czech

https://www.amazon.de/GIGABYTE-GA-B150M-D2V-DDR3-LGA1151-uATX/dp/B015SG4G5K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1500155842&sr=8-2&keywords=b150+ddr3

Normally G4560, but they are nowhere to be found, maybe a G4620?

Damn... Sucks to live in Germany, 5GB are like premium data plans here.

So no need for RAM? And where do you live?

I would stay with the X6 1090T, way better multithread performance, and probably similar single thread.

45 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Even with a VPN your information will still get logged by every website you visit.

Your OS will still take telemetry.

Your ISP still knows where the data is going even if it's encrypted.

 

The only solution is to unplug your ethernet cable and stop using a cell phone.

 

Who cares if some of your metadata gets leaked?

Do you think anyone cares about what websites you visit?

Your argument is basically "I better wear a mask in public or someone might take a photo of me and they will know what my face looks like!"

No, my argument is "I dont want 10 microphones from the government at my home, I dont do something illegal, but I still prefer some privacy."

Its not just metadata, they log many details, if you google on your phone Barbecue, you will receive in your Facebook ads about meat in the next day.

I mean its ok if you dont care, but some people care. 

9 minutes ago, Enderman said:

It's big data, it literally means nothing.

Unless you're a criminal there is no human being looking at your data, just computers.

You're basically scared about a computer knowing what websites you visit...

I dont need to be a criminal to prefer to dont have every information of my life being logged, if you are ok with that fine, and even if you think that your government just want the best for you, data can leak. 

15 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Then instead of the browser taking your information, your ISP, search engine, websites, and OS will.

 

If you are concerned about some random servers collecting big data then you should probably stop using the internet asap.

I use VPN, I know that they collect data anyway, I just prefer to avoid inviting the NSA for dinner. I know that it's impossible to live today without government collecting info from you, but I don't see why shouldn't you try to avoid some of it.

5 minutes ago, Enderman said:

If you're having dropped frames then something is wrong with your hardware/software configuration.

You should try reinstalling it or clean installing windows because something is clearly wrong on your end.

 

Also, every browser will take your information, regardless whether you use chrome or not.

Not every browser will take my information, there are some modified browser to collect as little as possible information.

Probably the frame droppes are some problem with my config, but what about the poorly optimized hardware codec support? And the fact that it doesnt support higher than 720p on netflix?

If you have a lower end Atom with VP9/H265 support, you need to use Edge or something else to play 1080p+.

Not that I really need this support, I just dont understand the lack of it.