PC underpreforms

[Robskee_013]

So this possibly is getting asked a million and one times.

 

My computer seems to be underpreforming massively in gaming, even though i'd assume my rig should be able to do a bit better.

 

So my build is:
Asus Prime B350-Plus (AM4)

AMD Ryzen 5 (1600) 

16 GB Dual channel @ 1064MHz (15-15-15-36) (Vengeance LPX 8Gb seated in A1 & B1)

MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Gaming X 8G

MS-Tech 750watt ATX (MS-N750-VAL-CM)

 

HDD's:

-Seagate 2Tb 7200 rpm

-Seagate 2Tb 5900 rpm

-Samsung 850 Evo SSD (120Gb) Raid 0 Games library

-Samsung 850 Evo SSD (120Gb) Raid 0 Games library 

-Samsung 960 NVME SSD (250Gb)

 

Windows 10 pro (64-bit) 

 

2 BenQ Senseye monitors (60Hz) 

Yet when i play League of Legends it runs quite badly, medium high settings at 40FPS 
My GPU sits on a comfy 20-30 % (@ max 60°c) 

CPU at 30% max

I ran 3D Mark (Timespy) and recieved an overal 5761, which according to the site is in the 56th percentile. 

But looking at the overal preformance i'm shocked.

-Graphics test 1 48FPS

-Graphics test 2 43FPS

-CPU test 8.43FPS (NOT A TYPO, acutally 8 fps)

(Uploaded a image)

 

Why wont my system run games at a higher FPS, it has way more to give yet it refuses to.

I have spent my fair share on google yet could not find any newer posts from someone with a Phenom II. 

I do have my reservations about Nvidia's geforce experience but have allowed it to run each update it showed me, windows is also constantly updated 

 

 

I'm all out of ideas and really had my doubts on going online with this, but if i'm gonna find any one who could help me, the LTT forum would be the place.

 

[AntiTrust]

4 minutes ago, Robskee_013 said:

16 GB Dual channel @ 1064MHz (15-15-15-36) (Vengeance LPX 8Gb seated in A1 & B1)

 

this isn't correct right? your ram shouldnt be at 1000mhz 

[Robskee_013]

6 minutes ago, AntiTrust said:

this isn't correct right? your ram shouldnt be at 1000mhz 

Its what speccy told me, but jumping into the detailed view, this is what it tells me.

strangely my windows task manager says 2133MHz

 

I loaded up the stock settings in the bios

 

[Ashleyyyy]

what is the cpu frequency like under load?

[AntiTrust]

4 minutes ago, Robskee_013 said:

Its what speccy told me, but jumping into the detailed view, this is what it tells me.

strangely my windows task manager says 2133MHz

 

I loaded up the stock settings in the bios

 

yeah task manager is right, I forgot that sometimes programs show it as half speed because its double data rate or whatever. But still your ram is only at 2133? is that its rated speed or have you not turned on xmp? 

 

also like firelighter said, what cpu frequency are you hitting under load? something is definitely wrong. 

[VinsinityKT]

Ram is usually ran at Dual Data Rate, so speeds may be shown as half as they should be, so multiply by 2. As long as you have it set to XMP in bios, you should be fine.

[Jurrunio]

hmm maybe you accidentally turned off SMT or some cores?

[AntiTrust]

17 minutes ago, Robskee_013 said:

Yet when i play League of Legends it runs quite badly, medium high settings at 40FPS 
My GPU sits on a comfy 20-30 % (@ max 60°c) 

CPU at 30% max

 

I ran 3D Mark (Timespy) and recieved an overal 5761, which according to the site is in the 56th percentile. 

But looking at the overal preformance i'm shocked.

-Graphics test 1 48FPS

-Graphics test 2 43FPS

-CPU test 8.43FPS (NOT A TYPO, acutally 8 fps)

 

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/3382385

 

timespy with a ryzen 5 1600 and 1080 you should be getting a much higher cpu score 

 

3DMark Score

7740

Graphics Score

8018

CPU Score

6470

Graphics Test 1

51.69 fps

Graphics Test 2

46.42 fps

CPU Test

21.74 fps

[Robskee_013]

8 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

what is the cpu frequency like under load?

I believe it was sticking at 1,36Ghz, base speed is rated for 3.50Ghz but the taskmanager kept it at 1.36

 

7 minutes ago, AntiTrust said:

yeah task manager is right, I forgot that sometimes programs show it as half speed because its double data rate or whatever. But still your ram is only at 2133? is that its rated speed or have you not turned on xmp? 

 

also like firelighter said, what cpu frequency are you hitting under load? something is definitely wrong. 

XMP settings unknown, i'll look it up, but would that really be the issue since only 50% is used troughout my day to day and even during the 3dmark ? 

 

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

hmm maybe you accidentally turned off SMT or some cores?

Might sound a bit thick, but what is SMT and i didnt turn off any cores, perhaps my bios default has ? 

should i find it in the bios ? 

 

[AntiTrust]

14 minutes ago, Robskee_013 said:

cmk16gx4m2b3000c15

 

that ram is rated for ddr4-3000mhz, you need to turn on xmp

[Ashleyyyy]

1 minute ago, Robskee_013 said:

I believe it was sticking at 1,36Ghz, base speed is rated for 3.50Ghz but the taskmanager kept it at 1.36

that's not good. what power plan is enabled? are your temperatures ok?

[AntiTrust]

1 minute ago, Robskee_013 said:

XMP settings unknown, i'll look it up, but would that really be the issue since only 50% is used troughout my day to day and even during the 3dmark ? 

it could make a pretty big difference actually. Im not an expert by any means but ive heard that the 1st gen ryzen chips are super dependant on fast ram 

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, Robskee_013 said:

Might sound a bit thick, but what is SMT and i didnt turn off any cores, perhaps my bios default has ? 

should i find it in the bios ? 

Just check if Task Manager says your CPU has 6 cores 12 threads

[Robskee_013]

10 minutes ago, AntiTrust said:

cmk16gx4m2b3000c15

 

that ram is rated for ddr4-3000mhz, you need to turn on xmp

Where do i do that ? didnt see an option for my ram (might not have as much a grasp on this as i thought i did XD ) 

 

 

10 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

that's not good. what power plan is enabled? are your temperatures ok?

In the bios i've set it to preformance, in windows the power plan is set to High Preformance

[Ashleyyyy]

temperatures?

[AntiTrust]

4 minutes ago, Robskee_013 said:

Where do i do that ? didnt see an option for my ram (might not have as much a grasp on this as i thought i did XD ) 

In the bios i've set it to preformance, in windows the power plan is set to High Preformance

https://smallbusiness.chron.com/enable-xmp-amd-board-37024.html 

 

try these instructions, 

[Robskee_013]

26 minutes ago, AntiTrust said:

https://smallbusiness.chron.com/enable-xmp-amd-board-37024.html 

 

try these instructions, 

bit of searching, but it said online that the b350 plus does not come with xmp, but it did say i could mimic it by setting these values in my BIOS

[AntiTrust]

1 minute ago, Robskee_013 said:

bit of searching, but it said online that the b350 plus does not come with xmp, but it did say i could mimic it by setting these values in my BIOS

yeah that makes sense, that ram should be fully supported by your motherboard btw, its listed on the qualified vendor list

 

let me know if that helps

[Robskee_013]

 

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

Just check if Task Manager says your CPU has 6 cores 12 threads

It does

 

59 minutes ago, firelighter487 said:

temperatures?

Added a image of the highest part

 

23 minutes ago, AntiTrust said:

yeah that makes sense, that ram should be fully supported by your motherboard btw, its listed on the qualified vendor list

 

let me know if that helps

Wished it did, but still the same scores

[AntiTrust]

12 minutes ago, Robskee_013 said:

Wished it did, but still the same scores

ouch. 

 

can you include the cpu frequency result? is it actually locked at 1.36 ghz? thats not good

[Robskee_013]

4 minutes ago, AntiTrust said:

ouch. 

 

can you include the cpu frequency result? is it actually locked at 1.36 ghz? thats not good

I know right, its so frustrating XD

 

but yeah, CPU Freq 1546 and a sky rocket up to the line of 1591Mhz

[AntiTrust]

1 minute ago, Robskee_013 said:

 

really weird. But I think its safe to say that the cpu clock being locked at 1500mhz is your problem here. 

 

these guys seemed to have luck by updating the bios... 

 

 

 

[AntiTrust]

19 minutes ago, Robskee_013 said:

but yeah, CPU Freq 1546 and a sky rocket up to the line of 1591Mhz

 

 

apparently the 1550mhz glitch is a known bug with the ryzen 5 1600. 

 

@Crunchy Dragon recommended

"Go into your BIOS and disable AMD's Cool'n'Quiet feature. Then go into your Windows Power Settings and change your Power Plan to High Performance."

 

 

[Robskee_013]

1 minute ago, AntiTrust said:

 

apparently the 1550mhz glitch is a known bug with the ryzen 5 1600. 

 

@Crunchy Dragon recommended

"Go into your BIOS and disable AMD's Cool'n'Quiet feature. Then go into your Windows Power Settings and change your Power Plan to High Performance."

 

 

was following on that as well, found it saying its just the BIOS being buggy, amd is to blame for this they say. 

 

i'm gonna try find the Bios's cool'nQuiet settings 

Be right back

[Robskee_013]

22 minutes ago, Robskee_013 said:

was following on that as well, found it saying its just the BIOS being buggy, amd is to blame for this they say. 

 

i'm gonna try find the Bios's cool'nQuiet settings 

Be right back

Okay so as it turns out i was one version behind on my bios, tough the RAM was still set for 2100Mhz for some reason in the BIOS after the update.

Set that back the way i did before and now my ram is on the 3000Mhz 

CPU is now finally running at 3,49Ghz under load, it ran up to roughly 60°c so i'll have to adress that by scaling the water cooling graph but might even be able to boost this puppy to 3.7 

a.k.a IT WORKS =D 

 

Only thing that still weirds me out is that my GPU's percentage during the 3Dmark was still at 2% troughout all tests, but my scores went up now 

 

one more thing i'd want to nag you for, something i could not for the life of me find a solid lead on.

 

So the motherboard and CPU offer a set number of PCIe lanes, could i theoretically use up all those lanes by combining so many hardrives, a GTX1080, NVME SSD, causing a elgato pci capture card to not be detected anymore ? 

is there like a calculator online for that sort of thing that you know of ?