Streaming pc, Capture card or more cores?

WoofyDaTechHound · November 14, 2018

I am planning to full time stream to twitch but dont plan to upload anything to youtube. Im trying to decide whether using a HD60 Pro with obs or just getting more cores and more threads to just run the game and obs together or run obs on a VM. This is my current build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MrVk7W but still researching and looking for a better setup. My budget im trying to stick with is 2k USD but will let it wander a bit if its worthy of the hardware. Ive heard that Elgato software sucks and OBS is a much better option but the H.264 encoder on the capture card grabs my attention.

I prefer team Blue and green but will sway on cpu only to Ryzen if i see it worthy of performance difference. Everything else can be subject to change except psu and ram. Any suggestions are welcome and appreciated

LukeSavenije · November 14, 2018

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$264.90 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$83.99 @ SuperBiiz
Thermal Compound	Noctua - NT-H1 3.5 g Thermal Paste	$5.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$275.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Crucial - MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$154.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card	$749.99 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	$49.95 @ Amazon
Power Supply	SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$74.99 @ Newegg
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$15.00
Monitor	Dell - SE2717H 27.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor	Purchased For $129.99
Mouse	Razer - Mamba Tournament Edition Wired Laser Mouse	Purchased For $54.99
Headphones	Sennheiser - GSP 350 7.1 Channel Headset	Purchased For $129.99
Other	Elgato Game Capture HD60 Pro, stream and record in 1080p60, superior low latency technology, H.264 hardware encoding, PCIe	$178.93 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2349.48
	Mail-in rebates	-$65.00
	Total	$2284.48
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-14 06:00 EST-0500

2 more cores, a better gpu, more ram, and still cheaper

Mr alex · November 14, 2018

You should use YouTube, it’s. A great way to get noticed and brings people into your stream as long as you advertise it right

SydneySideSteveSomewheres · November 14, 2018

Change out the motherboard so you can get faster storage ... NVMe

Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $252.78 at OutletPC

Samsung 960 Pro 1 TB MZ-V6P1T0BW (or) MZ-V6P1T0 M.2 (M key) NVMe SSD $359.89 at OutletPC

WoofyDaTechHound · November 14, 2018

11 hours ago, Mr alex said:

You should use YouTube, it’s. A great way to get noticed and brings people into your stream as long as you advertise it right

I will never use Youtube cause its a cancer platform that is anti creator. even if it is just to advertise

WoofyDaTechHound · November 14, 2018

11 hours ago, SydneySideSteveSomewheres said:

Change out the motherboard so you can get faster storage ... NVMe

Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $252.78 at OutletPC

Samsung 960 Pro 1 TB MZ-V6P1T0BW (or) MZ-V6P1T0 M.2 (M key) NVMe SSD $359.89 at OutletPC

I thought the code could use nvme

WoofyDaTechHound · November 14, 2018

12 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $264.90 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $83.99 @ SuperBiiz
Thermal Compound Noctua - NT-H1 3.5 g Thermal Paste $5.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard ASRock - Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $275.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Crucial - MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $154.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card $749.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $49.95 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $74.99 @ Newegg
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $15.00
Monitor Dell - SE2717H 27.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor Purchased For $129.99
Mouse Razer - Mamba Tournament Edition Wired Laser Mouse Purchased For $54.99
Headphones Sennheiser - GSP 350 7.1 Channel Headset Purchased For $129.99
Other Elgato Game Capture HD60 Pro, stream and record in 1080p60, superior low latency technology, H.264 hardware encoding, PCIe $178.93 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $2349.48
Mail-in rebates -$65.00
Total $2284.48
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-14 06:00 EST-0500

2 more cores, a better gpu, more ram, and still cheaper

Is buying an Asrock board even worth? I usually dont even look at them due that the horrible ram speed compatibility

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yh7mBb

LukeSavenije · November 14, 2018

36 minutes ago, Sgt. ShadoWolf said:

Is buying an Asrock board even worth? I usually dont even look at them due that the horrible ram speed compatibility

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yh7mBb

Asrock was until 2003 part of Asus. After that they became part of Phoenix and still are. They have 3 really good ryzen boards, they are worth it to look at and what I think a better mobo than the msi gaming pro.

I personally like aircoolers more becouse of the lower risk an great cooling of it.

For the ssd you should do one of two things: get a 970 evo or a sata 860 evo. There's no point of taking a m.2 version of the 860.

You can get a windows key from the internet for about 15 bucks, so waaay cheaper.

Other than that you made some great choises

WoofyDaTechHound · November 15, 2018

58 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

Asrock was until 2003 part of Asus. After that they became part of Phoenix and still are. They have 3 really good ryzen boards, they are worth it to look at and what I think a better mobo than the msi gaming pro.

I personally like aircoolers more becouse of the lower risk an great cooling of it.

For the ssd you should do one of two things: get a 970 evo or a sata 860 evo. There's no point of taking a m.2 version of the 860.

You can get a windows key from the internet for about 15 bucks, so waaay cheaper.

Other than that you made some great choises

I wish asus made boards that compared to the code for amd too. The high end boards from ROG are what i have been drawn to most

SydneySideSteveSomewheres · November 15, 2018

7 hours ago, Sgt. ShadoWolf said:

I thought the code could use nvme

SATA III (Samsung 860 Evo 4TB 2.5" SSD #MZ-76E4T0BW. Speeds up to 550 MB/s, 520 MB/s R/W)

PCIe 2.0 x4, AHCI (Samsung XP941 512GB AHCI M.2 PCIe 2.0 x4 #MZHPU512HCGL-00000-OB. Speeds up to 1170 MB/s, 950 MB/s R/W)
PCIe 3.0 x2, NVMe (MyDigitalSSD SBX 1TB NVMe M.2 PCIe 3.0 x2 #MDNVME80-SBX-1T. Speeds up to 1,600MB/s, 1,300MB/s R/W)
PCIe 3.0 x4, AHCI (Samsung SM951 512GB AHCI M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 #MZHPV512HDGL-00000. Speeds up to 2150 MB/s, 1500 MB/s R/W)
PCIe 3.0 x4, NVMe (Intel 660P 2TB NVMe M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 #SSDPEKNW020T8X1. Speeds up to 1800MB/s, 1800MB/s R/W)
PCIe 3.0 x4, NVME 1.1 (Samsung 960 Evo 1TB NVMe M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 #MZ-V6E1T0BW. Speeds up to 3,200MB/s, Up to 1,900MB/s)
PCIe 3.0 x4, NVME 1.3 (Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVMe M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 #MZ-V7E2T0BW. Speeds up to 3,500MB/s, Up to 2,500MB/s)

Roughly the bottom Samsung 970 is faster by three than the top Samsung XP941, for example, 3.0 x4 is faster than 2.0 x4 (with the SATA III Samsung 860 Evo internal SSD being over six times slower!). The main reason is that newer motherboards (even the lower tiered ones) allow storage to use the transport layer that graphics cards use for data transfer, the PCIe lane and where they make up to 16 lanes available for this. When I bought my first M.2 SSD it was a B+M Key, but this was not compatible with the NVMe slot on the Gigabyte X99-SOC Force motherboard (up to 20 GB/s and Thunderbolt ready), because it was only an M.2 SATA connector on the SSD. The slot does not guarantee NVMe speeds. Also, the drive that I ended up buying was the HyperX Predator 240GB which was only PCIe 2.0 x4 because that was all that was in the consumer space at that time (has since been upgraded to a Samsung 970 Evo NVMe m.2 SSD #MZ-V7E1T0BW). To get the best out of this faster NMVe storage, you must be able to load and boot the operating system from the drive. To do this, the motherboard manufacturer needs to enable support for it in the BIOS. Intel Optane drives subvert this by a memory controller, interface hardware (using the PCIe slot and riser card), and their proprietary software.