Constant internet issues.

[dazeen]

I've been having constant lag no matter what since I began gaming, especially in TF2. I play this game very seriously so the lag always gets me to throw a tantrum in every single occasion which has earned me a very bad reputation for always crying about lag and "blaming lag" when I'm clearly just bad.

It's not my computer. Just wanted to throw that out before you start telling me to upgrade my PC or something. I get ~300 fps in most games with max settings so it's not the issue.

The ping also isn't caused by the servers I'm playing on. It's literally all the servers and I have set my in-game max ping limit to it's lowest.

I've played TF2 on 4 different computers over the past years and I've used 6 different internet server providers and used different routers. I've also moved a lot so it's not really about the location either unless the whole province is a mess (which is a possibility but I can't move out anytime soon). 

Upgrading my internet speed didn't help. I went from 50 mb/s to 100 mb/s and even further to 150 mb/s speeds but I nothing changed. I've tried both wireless and wired but it barely helped, if not at all.

I've also tried several internet configs and settings over the past years but literally nothing helps, it seems like everything is too much for my internet. I get red spikes on net_graph 2, which sometimes jump over 15 000 and my ping has gone up to 7200 on some occasions (and yes, I was the only user at the time).

I'm extremely desperate for solutions at this point. If I don't get this solved I might end up just moving to singleplayer only games forever... And I like playing multiplayer, but it really sucks when it has to be this way. I just keep getting angry when everyone else has huge advantages when it comes to their connection. Sometimes my team has lost important matches just because the in-game models on my screen weren't actually there when for me it clearly showed hits, but when playing the demo offline, it's nowhere close.

 

 If any kindhearted person has had similar problems and actually solved them somehow, I'm begging you from the bottom of my heart, please give me some insight on this. 

 

[Guest]

Tell me a bit more about your set up, router, NIC? Also check all drivers are up to date.

[Fasauceome]

do you use wifi?

[Guest]

Both of the above could cause problems. It also might be the ping of your own internet, because speed doesn't really affect that. Speed is just good for fast downloads or streaming. 

[dazeen]

I have routers and modems of several sorts. I've also been using my shared phone WiFi, but all of them produce really bad latency. Currently I'm using a Zyxel VMG3925 modem with a WiFi extender. I've tried using it both wireless and wired but it doesn't change anything, still the same old lag. If you wish to know about my computer, it's a gaming laptop with a 7th gen intel i7 processor, Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 and 16 GB of RAM. Sorry for the late response.
 

Edit: I checked my drivers and they're all up to date. 
 

[XxHotFuzzxX]

Have you tried forcing TF2 to play at a set framerate? Nothing higher than say 60fps?

[LogicalDrm]

What kind of ping you are then getting? You are saying all the servers, so what kind of ping servers have when you connect? Are you using matchmaking or server browser?

[Risky_Kangaroo]

What kind of wifi extender are you using? Have you tried not using the extender?

[dazeen]

My framerate has nothing to do with the lag. Restricting the framerate would just make it worse for me. Anyway 60 fps is pretty low, I can instantly feel the change in mouse responsiveness because I have a 120Hz screen. 

 

I'm getting ping from 115 ms (on the nearest servers, doesn't matter if it's matchmaking or community servers) up to 7200 ping which also happens on the nearest servers for some reason.

 

I don't remember the extender name or model, I've gotten rid off the box already, but yeah it does absolutely nothing. I've been using my WiFi without it in the past but it's the same story.

[0x1e]

Upgrade your PC or something.

[Risky_Kangaroo]

Have you tried tracert/traceroute to see where things are slowing down?

[dazeen]

Upgrade my PC? I get ~300 fps or more in the games I play, with max settings. One some older games I get more than 700 fps.

 

Not sure what you mean by tracerrouting, but most of the packer loss is caused by entities, like rendering players, explosives and props.

 

I've tried changing the amount of packets the server receives by playing around with cl_cmdrate settings but it just seems my internet can't handle the ideal settings nor the absolute garbage settings. Anything in between doesn't work either.

 

Just yesterday I had a 36 000 entity packet loss spike which is by date, the highest packet loss I've ever seen any player encounter in TF2.

[MangetsuNeko]

Get in contact with your ISP and see if you can work your way up to an engineer or someone that can actually log into the modem or run any tests. Is this the modem that came with your internet service? When you say that you tried a wired connection, were you wired directly into the modem or into the repeater? You may have upgraded your internet speed, but that really shouldn't have been necessary. Your latency and speed should be unrelated, as long as you aren't trying to overutilize your available bandwidth. Going off of your modem type, you are using DSL. DSL typically would have higher average latency than say, cable or fiber, but even still - You should not be spiking up into the hundreds or anything like that. Once you rule out everything on your internal network, you need to go to the ISP and have them check their end.

[MangetsuNeko]

Also, tracert is a command you can run from CMD. It can be used to help identify where a network issue lies. Here's an article with how to use it: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314868/how-to-use-tracert-to-troubleshoot-tcp-ip-problems-in-windows

 

 

[corrado33]

21 hours ago, dazeen said:

Upgrade my PC? I get ~300 fps or more in the games I play, with max settings. One some older games I get more than 700 fps.

 

Not sure what you mean by tracerrouting, but most of the packer loss is caused by entities, like rendering players, explosives and props.

 

I've tried changing the amount of packets the server receives by playing around with cl_cmdrate settings but it just seems my internet can't handle the ideal settings nor the absolute garbage settings. Anything in between doesn't work either.

 

Just yesterday I had a 36 000 entity packet loss spike which is by date, the highest packet loss I've ever seen any player encounter in TF2.

Could just be your internet provider being shitty. Could be the wifi extender. Steps to take:

 

1. Try wired network connected to the MAIN router
2. Try pinging google.com constantly (ping -t google.com). If you see lag spikes there, then it's either your NIC or your ISP. 

[dazeen]

I've tried wired with both, the modem and the router. Rather not call my ISP, last time I called them it ended out to be an hour call and it cost a lot. I've disabled the WiFi extender in the past but honestly it hasn't really changed anything anyways. I've used 3 different local ISP's and I've had the same latency issues since day one. They always say the same, it's the location. I currently live in between two networking stations and they've claimed it affects a lot.