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Hello, so i need a little help here, ive been wanting to upgrade my gaming pc for quite sometime and here lately ive gathered money for either a new Gpu or a New motherboard processor and ram, but the thing is im worried that if i buy either one if them it will bottleneck.

Setup:

Gpu: Geforce gtx 970 Stric OC edition

Cpu: I5-4460 3.20GGz 3201Mhz 4 Cores

Motherboard: MSI B85-G43

RAM: HyperX Fury DDR3 1866MHz 16GB

 

If upgrading Gpu: Geforce gtx 1080 strix standard edition (Bottleneck)

If upgrading Cpu: 

Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING, Socket-AM4

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400MHz 16GB

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Processor 

PSU: Corsair CX600M Modular

Budget: 700$

Resolution: 1080 by 1920

 

What im aiming for with this upgrade: Increased FPS

Thanks for the help!

 

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You don't need a ryzen 7 for gaming

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8 minutes ago, Enxiety said:

Hello, so i need a little help here, ive been wanting to upgrade my gaming pc for quite sometime and here lately ive gathered money for either a new Gpu or a New motherboard processor and ram, but the thing is im worried that if i buy either one if them it will bottleneck.

Setup:

Gpu: Geforce gtx 970 Stric OC edition

Cpu: I5-4460 3.20GGz 3201Mhz 4 Cores

Motherboard: MSI B85-G43

RAM: HyperX Fury DDR3 1866MHz 16GB

 

If upgrading Gpu: Geforce gtx 1080 strix standard edition (Bottleneck)

If upgrading Cpu: 

Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING, Socket-AM4

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400MHz 16GB

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Processor 

 

What im aiming for with this upgrade: Increased FPS

Thanks for the help!

 

CPU, Mobo, Ram will net you the largest frames imho

 

As for not needing a Ryzen 7 for gaming...I see plenty of titles using all 16 threads on my Ryzen 7 1700.

Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 3: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler in push/pull, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  Lenovo 27" 1080p 60hz placeholder monitor, generic mouse, generic keyboard.  Still a work in progress

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com)

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.  Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Viotek GN24C 24" 1080p 144hz curved and Hannspree HF207 as 2nd monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.  Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

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What is your budget ?

PSU ?

Then we could help you

Please quote or tag me @Void Master,so i can see your reply.

 

Everyone was a noob at the beginning, don't be discouraged by toxic trolls even if u lose 15 times in a row. Keep training and pushing yourself further and further, so u can show those sorry lots how it's done !

Be a supportive player, and make sure to reflect a good image of the game community you are a part of. 

Don't kick a player unless they willingly want to ruin your experience.

We are the gamer community, we should take care of each other !

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2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

As for not needing a Ryzen 7 for gaming...I see plenty of titles using all 16 threads on my Ryzen 7 1700.

What ? Ryzen 7 isn't for "Just Gaming" its good for professional work while on budget.

A ryzen 5 2600 , 2600X  or an I5 (if you can afford) is good for gaming .

But , if you are talking about gaming + streaming then ryzen 7 is excellent

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Everyone was a noob at the beginning, don't be discouraged by toxic trolls even if u lose 15 times in a row. Keep training and pushing yourself further and further, so u can show those sorry lots how it's done !

Be a supportive player, and make sure to reflect a good image of the game community you are a part of. 

Don't kick a player unless they willingly want to ruin your experience.

We are the gamer community, we should take care of each other !

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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

could you give then then?

Already did

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

60 hertz screen?

Yes

 

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Ok how many fps are you willing to get ?

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Be a supportive player, and make sure to reflect a good image of the game community you are a part of. 

Don't kick a player unless they willingly want to ruin your experience.

We are the gamer community, we should take care of each other !

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4 minutes ago, Void Master said:

What ? Ryzen 7 isn't for "Just Gaming" its good for professional work while on budget.

A ryzen 5 2600 , 2600X  or an I5 (if you can afford) is good for gaming .

But , if you are talking about gaming + streaming then ryzen 7 is excellent

Im just saying your exact words were:

11 minutes ago, Void Master said:

You don't need a ryzen 7 for gaming

And I can tell you that Id rather have a Ryzen 7 than a Ryzen 5 for gaming, or an i5.  The OP clearly has a decent budget (see 1080 or this replacement) so I wouldn't future bottleneck myself over cores and threads, since that's the direction of gaming.  4 cores just wont cut it much longer if you want to see the pretties.

Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display

Ryzen Rig 3: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler in push/pull, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted.  Lenovo 27" 1080p 60hz placeholder monitor, generic mouse, generic keyboard.  Still a work in progress

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com)

Ryzen Rig 2: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker (or 4x8gb DDR4 2666mhz for large tasks), Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case.  Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Viotek GN24C 24" 1080p 144hz curved and Hannspree HF207 as 2nd monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

Ryzen Rig 1: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire R9 Fury Tri-X Nitro 4gb HBM, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case.  Zalman K600S keyboard, Zalman ZM-GM1 mouse, Acer XF270HU 2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

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why not save up for the money for both?

if you really are impatient then the cpu. you don't want to be spending that kind of money and not getting what you paid out of it or worse.

with just the cpu upgrade you might even see a little bit more out of your gpu. but that cpu is also a little over kill for just gaming don't you think?

its also like 200$ more than an ryzen 5 2600. take the extra 200$ and put it toward the 1080

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Around 100 - 150

And im willing to buy a 1080 for the reason that the new gen just came out and instead of buying a 1060 or 1070 ill buy a 1080 so i dont need to upgrade for a long time on the gpu

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Everyone was a noob at the beginning, don't be discouraged by toxic trolls even if u lose 15 times in a row. Keep training and pushing yourself further and further, so u can show those sorry lots how it's done !

Be a supportive player, and make sure to reflect a good image of the game community you are a part of. 

Don't kick a player unless they willingly want to ruin your experience.

We are the gamer community, we should take care of each other !

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13 minutes ago, Void Master said:

You don't need a ryzen 7 for gaming

Someone should tell Ubisoft, Assassins Creed Odyssey CPU usage is absurd.  I'm CPU bottle-necked in cities on an 8600k @ 4.8Ghz.

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Switches: Netgear MS510TXUP, Netgear MS510TXPP, Netgear GS110EMX
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I forgot to tell that my main games are:

PUBG

Overwatch

League of legends

World of Warcraft

Killing floor 2

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor $159.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $69.99 @ B&H
Memory GeIL - EVO SPEAR 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $115.98 @ Newegg
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB FTW ULTRA SILENT GAMING Video Card $394.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $770.84
  Mail-in rebates -$30.00
  Total $740.84
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-27 08:33 EDT-0400  

 

you could get this, the 1070 ti performs almost the same as a 1080, your psu can handle it, you have a 6 core processor for what I think is a great price and 16 gigs of faster memory, which is preffered with ryzen in general. and that for just 40 bucks more

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I suggest that you go and search for a used 1080 or 1080ti

there prices are dropping like hell

You can find 1080 ti for around 400$

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Be a supportive player, and make sure to reflect a good image of the game community you are a part of. 

Don't kick a player unless they willingly want to ruin your experience.

We are the gamer community, we should take care of each other !

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i would sy to go for a ryzen 5 2600 or 2600x. The GPU will be fine for some time and I would upgrade the cpu since it is imo the weakest of the 2

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42 minutes ago, Void Master said:

I suggest that you go and search for a used 1080 or 1080ti

there prices are dropping like hell

You can find 1080 ti for around 400$

where u getting these numbers from first ebay post that pops up 1080ti's are no where near 400 even used

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