90 degrees CPU after installing AiO!!

[kAEDwf]

Hello everyone, I installed my nepton 240m AiO just now and right at boot when I went into bios, all cores are at 90+ degrees. went into windows and checked with HWmonitor, same thing there.... The fans were spinning like crazy, but I don't know if the pump is actually working or not. This is my first AiO ever so

 

The fans on the nepton are connected to "CHA Fan 2" and the pump's 4pin is connected to the CPU Fan header. I have no idea what to do... maybe the pump isn't touching the cpu? I just need all the help I can get now guys

 

Everything was working fine with my cryorig H7 cooler, which is why im completely lost.

[Optane^]

Grab the tubes and see if you can feel water running through them.. I'd say your pump is probably broken and to RMA it. 

 

Also, see if your MOBO has a dedicated pump header.. these days they tend to have one.

 

Also, I bought a off-brand AIO and regretted it, big time. Great cooler for a great price : https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CrDzK8/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060025ww

Edited October 17, 2018 by Optane^
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[kAEDwf]

3 minutes ago, Optane^ said:

Grab the tubes and see if you can feel water running through them.. I'd say your pump is probably broken and to RMA it. 

 

Also, see if your MOBO has a dedicated pump header.. these days they tend to have one.

 

Also, I bought a off-brand AIO and regretted it, big time. Great cooler for a great price : https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CrDzK8/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060025ww

Alright, ill try to re-screw the pump and see and then feel if the water is running, it's an z97-k So unfortunately it doesnt have a pump header. This is just super weird

[Tristerin]

Never heard of the brand...put a finger on the pump and see if you can feel it vibrating slightly (doing its job) or not.  Sounds like pump failure or the like, as long as you connected it correctly per the instructions on the fan headers it requires (don't have to have a pump header at all.).

[Derrk]

May want to try reseating the AIO, tightening it as much as you can by hand. I would turn off all of the fans and feel the pump to see if it's working

[kAEDwf]

10 minutes ago, Derrk said:

May want to try reseating the AIO, tightening it as much as you can by hand. I would turn off all of the fans and feel the pump to see if it's working

Yes that's what ill try to do.

 

18 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Never heard of the brand...put a finger on the pump and see if you can feel it vibrating slightly (doing its job) or not.  Sounds like pump failure or the like, as long as you connected it correctly per the instructions on the fan headers it requires (don't have to have a pump header at all.).

Sorry for being so stupid haha, its a Cooler master Nepton 240m, forgot to add the cooler master part lol

[Tristerin]

1 hour ago, Derrk said:

May want to try reseating the AIO, tightening it as much as you can by hand. I would turn off all of the fans and feel the pump to see if it's working

 

57 minutes ago, kAEDwf said:

Yes that's what ill try to do.

 

Sorry for being so stupid haha, its a Cooler master Nepton 240m, forgot to add the cooler master part lol

 

1 hour ago, wONKEyeYEs said:

Have you checked that the CPU Fan header is set for 100% and not subject to a fan curve?

What Derrk said

Have you checked it yet?

What wONKEyeYEs said

[kAEDwf]

1 hour ago, Tristerin said:

 

 

What Derrk said

Have you checked it yet?

What wONKEyeYEs said

Alright!! I am just stupid, The screws weren't "tight enough" but now when I tightened them up, everything seems to be good. Since this is my first AiO, is it normal that the temps are "fluctuating" a lot? I think that's the word for it, the core temps (in idle) are going from 31 to 33,36,38, back to 33 then 31 etc etc. Like it doesn't stay in between 2-3 degrees.

 

I tried starting up something like minecraft and the temps on cores went to like 58-60 degrees and seem to be stable around there... but this is AWFUL compared to my Cryorig H7... 

 

How do I check what  wONKEyeYEs was saying? I know what you mean by fan cure, this motherboard has something like "Qfan control" or something and since the pump is connected to "CPU FAN" I just pressed on using standard for that one and then silent for my fans, but the nepton fans are spinning at like 2400 RPM still which is worrying me

 

Do you know how to fix it up perfectly with the curve thing in bios?

 

EDIT: When running Counter-Strike, the temps are around 38-44 keep in mind, this is on stock speed but turbo is on, so the clock speed is fluctuating from 3500 to 3800 etc.

 

But again, this is really bad I feel like, the fans are spinning like hell, my Cryorig H7 was pretty damn quiet and that was when I overclocked my i7-4770k to 4.3 Ghz. It kept quiet and stable temps like max 68 degrees when playing a counter-strike match or playing battlefield 1.

 

EDIT 2: I fixed the fan speeds by changing to PWM from "DC" I have no idea what DC means but I know PWM, so now they are working as they should. I also "disabled" Fan control for CPU FAN just so that the pump is doing it's fullest all the time. My idle temps seem to be pretty high but on the other hand, when inside of a map on csgo my temps are stable at 50-52 degrees when turbo to 3700 mhz.

 

Tomorrow i'll try to overclock it like I used to have it and we'll see how it goes. Something just feels "weird" or "wrong" with the pump, feels like it's not doing what it should to the fullest, im gonna call the store where I bought it from tomorrow and explain to them my concerns and see what they say.

[Tristerin]

31 minutes ago, kAEDwf said:

Alright!! I am just stupid, The screws weren't "tight enough" but now when I tightened them up, everything seems to be good. Since this is my first AiO, is it normal that the temps are "fluctuating" a lot? I think that's the word for it, the core temps (in idle) are going from 31 to 33,36,38, back to 33 then 31 etc etc. Like it doesn't stay in between 2-3 degrees.

 

I tried starting up something like minecraft and the temps on cores went to like 58-60 degrees and seem to be stable around there... but this is AWFUL compared to my Cryorig H7... 

 

How do I check what  wONKEyeYEs was saying? I know what you mean by fan cure, this motherboard has something like "Qfan control" or something and since the pump is connected to "CPU FAN" I just pressed on using standard for that one and then silent for my fans, but the nepton fans are spinning at like 2400 RPM still which is worrying me

 

Do you know how to fix it up perfectly with the curve thing in bios?

 

EDIT: When running Counter-Strike, the temps are around 38-44 keep in mind, this is on stock speed but turbo is on, so the clock speed is fluctuating from 3500 to 3800 etc.

 

But again, this is really bad I feel like, the fans are spinning like hell, my Cryorig H7 was pretty damn quiet and that was when I overclocked my i7-4770k to 4.3 Ghz. It kept quiet and stable temps like max 68 degrees when playing a counter-strike match or playing battlefield 1.

Normal, water is getting cooled down in the radiator, hits the CPU block causes fluctuation - the rule of thumb when screwing something onto a motherboard is Monkey Tight, not Gorilla Tight - so it can be tightened down quite a bit, just don't muscle it.

 

He means that the BIOS setting might have that Header at a curve - I.E. only outputting 70% of the power it can, which may not activate your pump.  Sounds like this was not the problem however.

 

I use Corsair Link to set my fan curves but that's unique to my Corsair H100i v2 GTX AIO.  I THINK it works with all fan headers however so download that and try it out.  Im not sure how much functionality it will give you over the pump however.

 

So you are saying its staying very cool - that is absolutely the goal.  Now to diminish the sound (I run my pump and fans on quiet mode no matter the temps and I hit around only 45-50c during heavy loads for hours - because if they spin up to 100% I want to throw my computer away lol)

 

Try these programs:

Corsair Link https://www.corsair.com/us/en/downloads

Open HardWare Monitor (haven't used this before I hear its good though) http://openhardwaremonitor.org/

SpeedFan (I haven't used this program in years) http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php

 

To get into your BIOS:

https://windowsreport.com/increase-cpu-fan-speed-software/

 

Once you get the sound silent, you will be extremely pleased.  SP fans (Static Pressure) produce a lot of noise as they are built to shove (or pull) air through objects like the radiator.

[Tristerin]

58 minutes ago, kAEDwf said:

I tried starting up something like minecraft and the temps on cores went to like 58-60 degrees and seem to be stable around there... but this is AWFUL compared to my Cryorig H7... 

 

 

Did you apply the correct amount of thermal paste, and cover the correct area?  Is it tightened down correctly?  

 

My very hot running FX 8350 doesn't go over 50c when playing games for hours...at idle, right now I bounce between 22-28c after being on for about an hour.  The water in the radiator after leaving the CPU block is at 30c atm - this is what I expect out of my 240mm radiator AIO.  

DISCLAIMER - I have exxxxxxcellent airflow in my case.

[Firewrath9]

3 hours ago, Tristerin said:

Never heard of the brand

I think nepton is cooler master.

[Tristerin]

19 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

I think nepton is cooler master.

Yeah he clarified in a later post, Ive been reading a lot of "Aliexpress" forum posts and instantly thought that lol

[Derrk]

1 hour ago, kAEDwf said:

Alright!! I am just stupid, The screws weren't "tight enough" but now when I tightened them up, everything seems to be good. Since this is my first AiO, is it normal that the temps are "fluctuating" a lot? I think that's the word for it, the core temps (in idle) are going from 31 to 33,36,38, back to 33 then 31 etc etc. Like it doesn't stay in between 2-3 degrees.

 

I tried starting up something like minecraft and the temps on cores went to like 58-60 degrees and seem to be stable around there... but this is AWFUL compared to my Cryorig H7... 

 

How do I check what  wONKEyeYEs was saying? I know what you mean by fan cure, this motherboard has something like "Qfan control" or something and since the pump is connected to "CPU FAN" I just pressed on using standard for that one and then silent for my fans, but the nepton fans are spinning at like 2400 RPM still which is worrying me

 

Do you know how to fix it up perfectly with the curve thing in bios?

 

EDIT: When running Counter-Strike, the temps are around 38-44 keep in mind, this is on stock speed but turbo is on, so the clock speed is fluctuating from 3500 to 3800 etc.

 

But again, this is really bad I feel like, the fans are spinning like hell, my Cryorig H7 was pretty damn quiet and that was when I overclocked my i7-4770k to 4.3 Ghz. It kept quiet and stable temps like max 68 degrees when playing a counter-strike match or playing battlefield 1.

 

EDIT 2: I fixed the fan speeds by changing to PWM from "DC" I have no idea what DC means but I know PWM, so now they are working as they should. I also "disabled" Fan control for CPU FAN just so that the pump is doing it's fullest all the time. My idle temps seem to be pretty high but on the other hand, when inside of a map on csgo my temps are stable at 50-52 degrees when turbo to 3700 mhz.

 

Tomorrow i'll try to overclock it like I used to have it and we'll see how it goes. Something just feels "weird" or "wrong" with the pump, feels like it's not doing what it should to the fullest, im gonna call the store where I bought it from tomorrow and explain to them my concerns and see what they say.

Glad the AIO is working!! 

 

nah you ain't stupid. If you were stupid, you wouldn't have asked for advice. If you're using ryzen, the fluctuating temp is pretty normal. I forget the exact term, but out of the box, most ryzen chips use a type of "auto voltage" which causes the voltage to constantly change when it's not under load - this causes changes in temps.

 

To change your fan curve, if you boot into bios, there be a tab somewhere for fan control. In there, you just find the same header the AIO is plugged into & set that to 100%. You should also find the header(s) your fans are plugged into so you can set an appropriate curve for those as well, to keep the noise down. You might have to play around with it to find settings you like but for example, you could set it to 30% fan speed at 30degrees, 50% fan speed at 45deg, etc.. Doesn't have to be that exactly. Like i said, play around with it and you can find something to give you good temps & also quiet fans.

 

Idle temps around 30 or slightly higher are good, & 50 in a game is really good for an AIO. I wouldn't be concerned with the pump unless its making a really bad noise, or its making no noise/vibration at all. 

 

 

[kAEDwf]

6 hours ago, Derrk said:

Glad the AIO is working!! 

 

 

I fixed the fans in my bios, it had some kind of "QFan Control" which fixed the fans

 

6 hours ago, Tristerin said:

Yeah he clarified in a later post, Ive been reading a lot of "Aliexpress" forum posts and instantly thought that lol

 

But are you guys sure 50 at load is good? As I said, my Cryorig h7 did better and it's literally half the price gonna try to OC when I come home and see if the temps go insane of stay, I really appreciate the help guys, was going insane because I thought it wasn't working haha, and i've had too many problems with my pc this week lmao

[Tristerin]

10 hours ago, kAEDwf said:

I fixed the fans in my bios, it had some kind of "QFan Control" which fixed the fans

 

 

But are you guys sure 50 at load is good? As I said, my Cryorig h7 did better and it's literally half the price gonna try to OC when I come home and see if the temps go insane of stay, I really appreciate the help guys, was going insane because I thought it wasn't working haha, and i've had too many problems with my pc this week lmao

50c at load on the CPU?  That's great temps under load.  If you were saying 75c + I would be concerned that your pump in your AIO was malfunctioning or that there was air bubbles trapped inside your AIO. 

 

I hit 50c at full load after hours of gaming on my FX 8350 125w processor.  This processor is literally known to heat up a room.  Like mentioned before I have SUBERB airflow so my temps aren't as common for a FX 8350 which are typically much hotter under load (and built to handle that).  Rule of thumb for me is anything over 80c definitely shortens the lifespan of the CPU (for sustained durations).

 

I just spent 10 minutes reading threads about your CPU with an AIO...50c expected for your CPU under load, up to 60-70c as well which is 100% fine.

 

AIO cooling and Air Cooling are two different beasts.  Ive heard good things about Cryorig h7, but AIO's keep things cooler, and much quieter for me once I have them dialed in.

 

IF you are super concerned with temps, increase more airflow in your case - you will notice results.  Most amount of cool air in possible.  And make sure you didn't use to much, or to little thermal paste.

[kAEDwf]

2 hours ago, Tristerin said:

50c at load on the CPU?  That's great temps under load.  If you were saying 75c + I would be concerned that your pump in your AIO was malfunctioning or that there was air bubbles trapped inside your AIO. 

 

I hit 50c at full load after hours of gaming on my FX 8350 125w processor.  This processor is literally known to heat up a room.  Like mentioned before I have SUBERB airflow so my temps aren't as common for a FX 8350 which are typically much hotter under load (and built to handle that).  Rule of thumb for me is anything over 80c definitely shortens the lifespan of the CPU (for sustained durations).

 

I just spent 10 minutes reading threads about your CPU with an AIO...50c expected for your CPU under load, up to 60-70c as well which is 100% fine.

 

AIO cooling and Air Cooling are two different beasts.  Ive heard good things about Cryorig h7, but AIO's keep things cooler, and much quieter for me once I have them dialed in.

 

IF you are super concerned with temps, increase more airflow in your case - you will notice results.  Most amount of cool air in possible.  And make sure you didn't use to much, or to little thermal paste.

Im sorry I ment at idle, but at load it only gained like 10 degrees. Well this will sound very stupid, but I literally fixed it by turning the pump 90 degrees  Now it's 30-34 degrees at idle and like 50-55 when gaming. I also fixed the fans so now it's SUPER QUIET when at idle, only gaining like 10% sound when gaming, it's insane haha, im so glad it's finally working because I always heard good stuff about AiO's and that they are so quiet, feels super good now.

 

Thank you very much for your replies my friend, I really appreciate it, I was going insane yesterday night when nothing was workingout  

[Tristerin]

29 minutes ago, kAEDwf said:

Im sorry I ment at idle, but at load it only gained like 10 degrees. Well this will sound very stupid, but I literally fixed it by turning the pump 90 degrees  Now it's 30-34 degrees at idle and like 50-55 when gaming. I also fixed the fans so now it's SUPER QUIET when at idle, only gaining like 10% sound when gaming, it's insane haha, im so glad it's finally working because I always heard good stuff about AiO's and that they are so quiet, feels super good now.

 

Thank you very much for your replies my friend, I really appreciate it, I was going insane yesterday night when nothing was workingout  

w00t!

 

This tells me that there was a air pocket likely trapped in the pump housing (goes on the CPU) and when you rotated it, it released the air bubble into the radiator (normal) so that the amount of water covering the CPU block is as it should be.

 

Once in a great while you will likely hear your pump "chug" - that's the airbubble passing back through lol to the radiator.

 

EXCELLENT TO HEAR!

[kAEDwf]

6 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

w00t!

 

This tells me that there was a air pocket likely trapped in the pump housing (goes on the CPU) and when you rotated it, it released the air bubble into the radiator (normal) so that the amount of water covering the CPU block is as it should be.

 

Once in a great while you will likely hear your pump "chug" - that's the airbubble passing back through lol to the radiator.

 

EXCELLENT TO HEAR!

I looked at 2 installation videos, they both had the "logo" of the pump in the same direction and one of them even mentionen something about "blabla performance bla 90 degrees" which is where I got the idea, thank you so much again for being so helpful man, I really appreciate you taking your time to try and help me!!