RX 570 good enought?

[bubnu]

Hi guys, i was wondering if a rx 570 4 gb would be good enought for the next 5 years for gaming. I just found this deal with an  ASUS Radeon RX 570 STRIX GAMING 4GB for just 210$/180euro.

 

I've been looking for a graphics card only recently so i dont know the prices before the inflation caused by mining, so i need some help here.

I could just wait until black friday and maybe get a better deal, i'm not in a hurry, i'm just afraid miners or consumers will get the stocks low again and prices will rise and so on.

I plan to use this gpu for the next 5 years and its "last" year i dont demand too much from it, just some low/medium quality on new games while hitting 40- 60 fps at least. I will pair it with a ryzen 3 1200/ryzen 5 1600 or with an intel cpu if prices come down again. 

[YourCrush1234]

I would say It is, like the 1050 is still pretty relevant, almost everyone that has a computer at my school has one. So yeah, don’t sweat it 

[aezakmi]

You should get the 8GB Sapphire version, the ASUS, well, throttles even at stock clocks because of a bad power design

The 1600 is way better than the 1200 so try to go for that CPU

 

We don't know how "low/medium" qualities will be in the next 5 years

[Jurrunio]

If you read trends, you can see that 5 years ago the GTX 760 is what stands in the same situation 5 years ago. Today, it's good for light games, even some well-optimized AAA games can run on 1080p low settings. Does that seem good?

 

6 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

the ASUS, well, throttles even at stock clocks because of a bad power design

really?

[aezakmi]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

really?

Even the 4GB version of the Sapphire Nitro+ card has 8+6 connectors while the Strix only has a single 8pin

After 74C the strix throttles and overclocking makes it stall or freeze because it doesn't has enough power, control sliders for power are dummies

 

I have that card

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

Even the 4GB version of the Sapphire Nitro+ card has 8+6 connectors while the Strix only has a single 8pin

After 74C the strix throttles and overclocking makes it stall or freeze because it doesn't has enough power, control sliders for power are dummies

 

I have that card

Mod the BIOS and there you go. No idea why Asus is so recessive in their power limits, the PCB is good for much more.

[aezakmi]

31 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Mod the BIOS and there you go. No idea why Asus is so recessive in their power limits, the PCB is good for much more.

already did, followed a mining tutorial to achieve more MH/s but without the custom drivers part

 

1400 core and 2000 on micron mem stable even with the missing 6 pin, decent card but the stock bios just sucks

went from less than 60 frames on no man's sky to 85 with that oc

 

OP: this totally voids the warranty

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, aezakmi said:

OP: this totally voids the warranty

he can flash it back I suppose, unless the card is so broken he can't reflash it.

[bubnu]

Alright, i wont overclock it like that unless i cant get playable quality or the guarantee expires, but this gpu seems to be the right choice. This gets me to a new question: can i put this gpu in my old pc? It's a fujitsu esprimo p710 with an i3-3220(i will change the psu to a 500W or 650W). I've heard on a review that not all old systems can support newer gpus.

[aezakmi]

3 hours ago, bubnu said:

Alright, i wont overclock it like that unless i cant get playable quality or the guarantee expires, but this gpu seems to be the right choice. This gets me to a new question: can i put this gpu in my old pc? It's a fujitsu esprimo p710 with an i3-3220(i will change the psu to a 500W or 650W). I've heard on a review that not all old systems can support newer gpus.

first things first, if the board on that machine is proprietary it won't support standard ATX power supplies, you'd need to mod a whole power supply to make it work properly, it's never that easy to replace a PSU on a prebuilt machine.

 

now, yes, not all board support new components, if the mobo has a BIOS lock to prevent adding a graphics card you're done, unless you know how to program a new BIOS there's no way to make it work, there's only one way to find out that is to try the new graphics card on the slot and see if it does the POST

 

you should replace the CPU too

[bubnu]

11 hours ago, aezakmi said:

first things first, if the board on that machine is proprietary it won't support standard ATX power supplies, you'd need to mod a whole power supply to make it work properly, it's never that easy to replace a PSU on a prebuilt machine.

 

now, yes, not all board support new components, if the mobo has a BIOS lock to prevent adding a graphics card you're done, unless you know how to program a new BIOS there's no way to make it work, there's only one way to find out that is to try the new graphics card on the slot and see if it does the POST

 

you should replace the CPU too

it does allow me to use gpus, i already have a shitty one installed but i dont think i understand the psu problem... I know the actual power supply is not good enought but what do you mean to mod a psu? never heard of such things before 

[Reznik]

Lots of prebuilt systems do not use a standard PSU.  The connection to the motherboard is often not the standard 24 pin.  You would have to look up the exact model of board and see.  It should be somewhat obvious just by looking at it, although I've had a Dell T3600 that had a 24 pin that was not standard so definitely look into that before you purchase a new GPU and PSU. 

[DeLorian]

As everyone said, make sure a new PSU would fit. Furthermore, I don't think that card will be sufficient for the next 5 years of gaming unless you are happy with low/medium settings. It is just the way of things.

[aezakmi]

7 hours ago, bubnu said:

it does allow me to use gpus, i already have a shitty one installed but i dont think i understand the psu problem... I know the actual power supply is not good enought but what do you mean to mod a psu? never heard of such things before 

What Reznik said, ''normal'' motherboards have a set of standard connectors like the main ATX power, EPS 12V or 8/6pin aux connectors

prebuilt computers use a different type of motherboards designed by the OEM that use non-standard power connectors, if the voltages are provided by a standard PSU it's possible to modify it in order to make it compatible with a proprietary board, it often involves desoldering wires from the old board (inside the PSU) to solder them into the new one, that is the right way to do it, of course there are other more... primitive methods, like cutting wires and using tape but as a technician I can't recommend those.

 

This is the board of a Fujitsu Esprimo

 

 

Here's a standard mATX board