Gaming Build

[Kvahuest]

I have had mixed opinions on what one to get but i thought i should ask over here since you guys deal with all this stuff, this will be my first built pc, I can either get the Intel build with an i5-8600k and a 1080 or the AMD build with a 7 1700 and a 1080ti.

Intel = https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cksHnH

AMD = https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vdbtr6

Thanks for reading and commenting.

[Krosis]

What's your primary use?

[Kvahuest]

Just now, Krosis said:

What's your primary use?

mostly gaming

[TheStyne]

If I were you, I'd go Ryzen 7 and then overclock. I absolutely would not pair that board with that CPU if you plan to overclock though. It's pretty low end, and I don't think you'll get amazing overclocks. If you absolutely can't squeeze out another penny on that build for a better motherboard, then the Intel one probably is the better option.

[TheGlenlivet]

The 1080ti is significantly more powerful than the 1080, i'd go AMD on this one.

[Kvahuest]

Just now, Fixinit1 said:

If I were you, I'd go Ryzen 7 and then overclock. I absolutely would not pair that board with that CPU if you plan to overclock though. It's pretty low end, and I don't think you'll get amazing overclocks. If you absolutely can't squeeze out another penny on that build for a better motherboard, then the Intel one probably is the better option.

my max is £1500, since im a student i wanna make it last

 

[Kvahuest]

2 minutes ago, TheGlenlivet said:

The 1080ti is significantly more powerful than the 1080, i'd go AMD on this one.

but the base clock on the intel one is higher...but the amd one has 8 cores, i learned how to calculate all that last year now i have forgotten it...great 

[TheGlenlivet]

Swap the m.2 for either a SATA SSD or a cheaper m.2 and get a better motherboared and I think you are good.

[aisle9]

25 minutes ago, Kvahuest said:

I have had mixed opinions on what one to get but i thought i should ask over here since you guys deal with all this stuff, this will be my first built pc, I can either get the Intel build with an i5-8600k and a 1080 or the AMD build with a 7 1700 and a 1080ti.

Intel = https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cksHnH

AMD = https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vdbtr6

Thanks for reading and commenting.

The 1080 Ti is a better card than the 1080, and for gaming that's the direction you'd want to go in. That's just a really, really bad motherboard for a Ryzen 7. Even for Ryzen 5, it's iffy. PC MATE is about the lowest end MSI makes, and MSI's gen 1 Ryzen boards were kind of crap anyway, so...

 

If you go the AMD route, consider an X370 board, something like the ASUS Strix, AsRock Fatal1ty or AsRock Taichi (my personal favorite). You're going to pay more, but you're going to get a better, more stable overclock out of your R7, and your VRMs won't explode in two years. You can cut some costs by making those NZXT RGB fans go away and using generic Asiahorse or Aigo RGB fans instead. It won't make up the difference, but you have got to get a better board if you go Ryzen 7.

[dizmo]

I'd go with the 8600k and the 1080Ti, and stop wasting so much money on RGB fans.

[Kvahuest]

12 hours ago, aisle9 said:

The 1080 Ti is a better card than the 1080, and for gaming that's the direction you'd want to go in. That's just a really, really bad motherboard for a Ryzen 7. Even for Ryzen 5, it's iffy. PC MATE is about the lowest end MSI makes, and MSI's gen 1 Ryzen boards were kind of crap anyway, so...

 

If you go the AMD route, consider an X370 board, something like the ASUS Strix, AsRock Fatal1ty or AsRock Taichi (my personal favorite). You're going to pay more, but you're going to get a better, more stable overclock out of your R7, and your VRMs won't explode in two years. You can cut some costs by making those NZXT RGB fans go away and using generic Asiahorse or Aigo RGB fans instead. It won't make up the difference, but you have got to get a better board if you go Ryzen 7.

i have changed the AMD one a bit, is it better now?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7g8dvn

[TheStyne]

7 minutes ago, Kvahuest said:

i have changed the AMD one a bit, is it better now?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7g8dvn

Somewhat. I'd still look for x470 or x370 though. You should really swap the SSD for a SATA one, the difference between m.2 and SATA for gaming is nearly imperceivable.

[Kvahuest]

Just now, Fixinit1 said:

Somewhat. I'd still look for x470 or x370 though. You should really swap the SSD for a SATA one, the difference between m.2 and SATA for gaming is nearly imperceivable.

whats the difference between them?

[TheStyne]

4 minutes ago, Kvahuest said:

whats the difference between them?

Between SATA and M.2? M.2 NVMe(which is what you have in the list) is extremely fast. It's great for things like servers, because many people will be hitting it with extremely hard work loads at one time, so it won't fall behind, like SATA might. For a desktop situation, NVMe is so fast that your other components often bottleneck it. That's why I recommend regular SATA unless you're going for budget-less PC, simply because the speed difference will be somewhat lost on you.

 

EDIT: I feel like I've been unfair to NVMe. Don't get me wrong, you will see a difference, it'll just be so small that it isn't worth the extra boatload of money that NVMe drives cost over SATA.

Edited September 29, 2018 by Fixinit1

[Kvahuest]

Just now, Fixinit1 said:

Between SATA and M.2? M.2 NVMe(which is what you have in the list) is extremely fast. It's great for things like servers, because many people will be hitting it with extremely hard work loads at one time, so it won't fall behind, like SATA might. For a desktop situation, NVMe is so fast that your other components often bottleneck it. That's why I recommend regular SATA unless you're going for budget-less PC, simply because the speed difference will be somewhat lost on you.

ohh ok thank you, so what should i go for the new amd one i sent or the intel one, going to purchase ita all today or tomorrow.

[TheStyne]

1 minute ago, Kvahuest said:

ohh ok thank you, so what should i go for the new amd one i sent or the intel one, going to purchase ita all today or tomorrow.

I  would go for the new AMD build, but swap out the 970 EVO for an 860, and then try to bump up the motherboard to and x370 or x470, if you can.

[Kvahuest]

Just now, Fixinit1 said:

I  would go for the new AMD build, but swap out the 970 EVO for an 860, and then try to bump up the motherboard to and x370 or x470, if you can.

ok thank you, so a 860 1tb?

 

[TheStyne]

Just now, Kvahuest said:

ok thank you, so a 860 1tb?

 

I was thinking more the 500GB, but if you can fit the 1TB and a better motherboard in your budget then go for it. If you really truly don't care about overclocking, you could just go for the 1TB even if you don't have enough for a higher end motherboard.

[Kvahuest]

Just now, Fixinit1 said:

I was thinking more the 500GB, but if you can fit the 1TB and a better motherboard in your budget then go for it. If you really truly don't care about overclocking, you could just go for the 1TB even if you don't have enough for a higher end motherboard.

thanks, my current pc is just so bad cant wait to upgrade i can finally play some games i have stored away 

[TheStyne]

1 minute ago, Kvahuest said:

thanks, my current pc is just so bad cant wait to upgrade i can finally play some games i have stored away 

Yeah for sure, I get that. Did the same thing just a couple months ago. Had literally the lowest end Intel HD from 2010, and now I've got a 2400G, and about to get an RX 580.

[Kvahuest]

Just now, Fixinit1 said:

Yeah for sure, I get that. Did the same thing just a couple months ago. Had literally the lowest end Intel HD from 2010, and now I've got a 2400G, and about to get an RX 580.

what mobo should i get? if it could be sli that would amazing because i will buy another gpu down the line and would love to sli it 

[TheStyne]

4 minutes ago, Kvahuest said:

what mobo should i get? if it could be sli that would amazing because i will buy another gpu down the line and would love to sli it 

I'd recommend this part list. Will give you a great experience, supports SLI, and has RGB, if you're into that sort of thing.

[Kvahuest]

1 minute ago, Fixinit1 said:

I'd recommend this part list. Will give you a great experience, supports SLI, and has RGB, if you're into that sort of thing.

can i change the colours on that mobo? im going for a black and white, hoping it to like tron 

[TheStyne]

1 minute ago, Kvahuest said:

can i change the colours on that mobo? im going for a black and white, hoping it to like tron 

If you mean the colours of the lights, then yes. You could have a black board with white or blue lights, and it's all controlled through software.

[Kvahuest]

Just now, Fixinit1 said:

If you mean the colours of the lights, then yes. You could have a black board with white or blue lights, and it's all controlled through software.

awesome! thank you, finally i can say i have a good pc