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[GuestYapper5]

I'm looking into building a black/carbon and red pc so I went to pcpartpicker and put something together. This will basically be used for gaming and probably some streaming. What I'm afraid of is the price. I know building good gaming PCs can be expensive right now but I'm a little worried that $4000 is a little much for what I put together. 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DsB76s

 

 

[Fasauceome]

Super solid build. There will be loads of people declaring ryzen's superiority in streaming, but the i7 can more than handle itself pumping out 1080p 60fps on twitch, while still assuring max fps in gaming. If you did go with ryzen 7, you would have the ability to get a mad core count, but outside of productivity tasks that require that core count, it's not as useful.

[Jurrunio]

Corsair AFs are really loud at speed. MLs are far better, if you stay with Corsair.

 

I myself dont see the point of 1440p on a 24" monitor

[Fasauceome]

9 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

 

I myself dont see the point of 1440p on a 24" monitor

Agreed, a larger monitor would really let that pixel count stick out

 

Edit: I also didn't notice the refresh rate, so it's still a decent monitor. 2k just seems superfluous at that size.

[r2724r16]

Don't buy a WD Blue 5400 RPM drive, buy a 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM HDD instead. 

[LogicWeasel]

There are many areas where you're going very expensive (or in short, "goin ham").  If you're concerned about shrinking price, here's a few areas where you could shrink cost without losing performance:

 

-Liquid cooler, especially if you do not want to overpay to overclock like crazy

-The motherboard is pretty maxed out, could get an Asus Prime for $109

-That's a lot of RAM, would be able to game just fine with 16GB until RAM prices get more sane (still pretty nuts for DDR4)

-A Gigabyte 1080 Ti is $649, so over $70 less and it's even got a faster base-core clock, a better-buy unless you were highly limited by color-scheme and cooler-looks

-That wattage PSU is pretty overkill unless you really see yourself running dual-GPU (don't, if you've seen the videos about SLI, it's just not worth it), therefore, go for a fully-modular 500 - 600 Watt instead, it'll be worth saving the $.

-The fans are pretty pricey AF for $97.85 worth, I'd go for quiet fans that have more value that that stuff

-I can't judge that monitor pick seeing as I bought an Acer 27" IPS, 1440P, 144hz, Free Sync panel (XF270HU for $399 on sale so that's sorta my bag anyway)

-You appear to have two headphones picked out, not sure why, if you don't want the mic to be showing when you're not gaming, use a nice headphone set like Sennheisers (or those Audio-Technica I guess) with a mod-mic.

-I guess if you absolutely need a TV to watch movies on when you're not gaming that TCL works, but I wouldn't judge the price of the computer with that included seeing as it's not required for gaming or streaming.

-CableModCables are cool, but they cost more than the darn PSU, and I pointed out even that was over-spend.  Consider the relative cost.

 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, LogicWeasel said:

 

-Liquid cooler, especially if you do not want to overpay to overclock like crazy

Agreed. A dark rock pro 4 would be a good replacement

 

1 minute ago, LogicWeasel said:

The motherboard is pretty maxed out, could get an Asus Prime for $109

It's criminal to put a prime in a PC at this price point. Prime is ABSOLUTE bare minimum for z370 from Asus.

2 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

That's a lot of RAM, would be able to game just fine with 16GB until RAM prices get more sane (still pretty nuts for DDR4)

Getting ram later would be fine but at least with 32 you have the peace of mind that the PC is good for a while.

3 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

Gigabyte 1080 Ti is $649, so over $70 less and it's even got a faster base-core clock, a better-buy unless you were highly limited by color-scheme and cooler-looks

The strix cooler design is better, so it will actually end up performing faster

 

3 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

The fans are pretty pricey AF for $97.85 worth, I'd go for quiet fans that have more value that that stuff

Yeah there's no way I would ever endorse $100 worth of fans

4 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

CableModCables are cool, but they cost more than the darn PSU, and I pointed out even that was over-spend.  Consider the relative cost.

Simply too sexy to say no to cablemod

[LogicWeasel]

4 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

It's criminal to put a prime in a PC at this price point. Prime is ABSOLUTE bare minimum for z370 from Asus.

Yeah but if he doesn't need the fancy-bits like built-in WiFi what is the Maximus X Hero getting you? (other than the ROG pricetag).  Isn't motherboard choice at that point based on what he'll actually NEED, and not frills?  They'll both allow overclock.

 

4 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Getting ram later would be fine but at least with 32 you have the peace of mind that the PC is good for a while.

Because it's hard to install 2 more sticks of RAM later?  I have no peace of mind issues from not having 32GB of RAM right now but perhaps that really depends on what one does beyond gaming and streaming to actually use more than 16.  I just find it odd that you're basically saying may as well over-pay today so you don't have to save money tomorrow?

 

4 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

The strix cooler design is better, so it will actually end up performing faster

Both have 3 fans that blow onto metal heatsync.  Is there a more detailed reason showing how the Asus card runs cooler than the Gigabyte one when they both have large, beefy aluminum heat-syncs under each fan?

4 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Simply too sexy to say no to cablemod

You have me there.  @GuestYapper5we wanna see pics of the before and after of cable management on this build.

[GuestYapper5]

So I don't really have a budget. I just wanted to make sure I'm not overpaying for anything. 

Also I wanted use a tv for maybe an overhead or something like. If you have a better recommendation please let me know. 

Also I see that most of you say the fans I chose were a bad choice so which fans would you recommend? 

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

Yeah but if he doesn't need the fancy-bits like built-in WiFi what is the Maximus X Hero getting you? (other than the ROG pricetag).  Isn't motherboard choice at that point based on what he'll actually NEED, and not frills?  They'll both allow overclock.

Better VRM cooling, or should I say VRM cooling because the prime has none. The board is overall designed with more features in mind, like longer PCIe ports, USB 3.1, and more fan headers, etc. Lots of actual functional benefits.

 

3 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

Both have 3 fans that blow onto metal heatsync.  Is there a more detailed reason showing how the Asus card runs cooler than the Gigabyte one when they both have large, beefy aluminum heat-syncs under each fan?

The boards have different PCB designs, with the strix having better VRMs, and there's also a difference in heat pipes in density. If the gigabyte card did just as well with lower price tag, Asus would go out of business, as all gigabyte cards cost less than Asus generally speaking.

Plus, I believe the strix has an internal fan header that can scale fan speed off GPU temp, which is nice.

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, GuestYapper5 said:

So I don't really have a budget. I just wanted to make sure I'm not overpaying for anything. 

Also I wanted use a tv for maybe an overhead or something like. If you have a better recommendation please let me know. 

Also I see that most of you say the fans I chose were a bad choice so which fans would you recommend? 

How many fans do you need? I'm not sure how to spend that much on fans, and I'm sure a handful of noctuas would cost a little less, not sure what the custom price is in there for.

[GuestYapper5]

3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

How many fans do you need? I'm not sure how to spend that much on fans, and I'm sure a handful of noctuas would cost a little less, not sure what the custom price is in there for.

If I wanted to replace all the fans including the stock fans on the cooler, I would need 5. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

6 hours ago, GuestYapper5 said:

I'm looking into building a black/carbon and red pc so I went to pcpartpicker and put something together. This will basically be used for gaming and probably some streaming. What I'm afraid of is the price. I know building good gaming PCs can be expensive right now but I'm a little worried that $4000 is a little much for what I put together. 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DsB76s

 

 

cut it down by $500:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: EVGA - CLC 280 113.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) performance is about the same for less.
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($222.89 @ OutletPC) better VRMs for abit less.
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($154.99 @ Newegg) you get RGB with this kit for less, no need for 32gb.
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Toshiba - 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($99.00 @ Amazon) much faster than the 5400rpm drive.
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Video Card  ($694.98 @ Newegg) to sync with the RGB software.
Case: NZXT - H700 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($139.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($94.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Acer - Predator XB241YU 23.8" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor  ($399.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Keyboard: G.Skill - RIPJAWS KM780 MX Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($72.99 @ Newegg) 
Mouse: Corsair - M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse  ($49.83 @ OutletPC) 
Headphones: Audio-Technica - M50x  Headphones  ($129.00 @ Amazon) 
Headphones: Corsair - VOID PRO RGB USB (Black) 7.1 Channel  Headset  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks RGB LED 4 Pin Adapter, Specified for Phanteks Cases with RGB  ($2.82 @ Amazon) 
Other: North Bayou Full Motion Desk Mount with Mount and Gas Spring for Computer Monitors 17'' - 27 LED LCD Flat Panel TVs from 4.4lbs upto 14.3lbs F80  ($24.90 @ Amazon) 
Other: TCL 40S305 40-Inch 1080p Roku Smart LED TV (2017 Model)  ($219.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120DRGBP_BK01 120mm Halos Digital RGB Fan Frames  ($11.60 @ Amazon) RGB frames for the front fans.
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120DRGBP_BK01 120mm Halos Digital RGB Fan Frames  ($11.60 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120DRGBP_BK01 120mm Halos Digital RGB Fan Frames  ($11.60 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF140DRGBP_BK01 Halos 140mm Digital LED Fan Frame Black  ($12.03 @ Newegg) RGB frames for the AIO and included fan.
Other: Phanteks PH-FF140DRGBP_BK01 Halos 140mm Digital LED Fan Frame Black  ($12.03 @ Newegg) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF140DRGBP_BK01 Halos 140mm Digital LED Fan Frame Black  ($12.03 @ Newegg) 
Other: AmazonBasics Heavy-Duty, Full Motion Articulating TV Wall Mount for 22-inch to 55-inch LED, LCD, Flat Screen TVs with 80-inch Velcro Cable Sleeve (White) 
Other: RGB light strips ($12.60)
Other: Edifier P12 Passive Bookshelf Speakers - 2-way Speakers with Built-in Wall-Mount Bracket - Wood Color, Pair ($89.99)
Other: Yamaha R-S202 ($149.99)
Other: cablemod EVGA G2 cables ($119.90)
Total: $3439.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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